New York!!!

[5GallonBucket]

Trump is losing the state by 800,000 + votes As in this morning with 96% in

2020 he lost by nearly 2,000,000
2016 he lost by 1,700,000 +

 

[baddog]

22 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Trump is losing the state by 800,000 + votes As in this morning with 96% in

2020 he lost by nearly 2,000,000
2016 he lost by 1,700,000 +

 

…..and I was told no way it would be close.

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Trump is losing the state by 800,000 + votes As in this morning with 96% in

2020 he lost by nearly 2,000,000
2016 he lost by 1,700,000 +

 

He is on track to win popular vote. I have not looked, but based on the trend, California should pick up some Trump votes.

[CardinalBacker]

2 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

He is on track to win popular vote. I have not looked, but based on the trend, California should pick up some Trump votes.

This.... I was really surprised by this.  His vote totals aren't that far above his 2020 numbers, but the Dem voters disappeared.  

I expected him to lose the popular handily.

It's going to be interesting to digest the data as it trickles in.  I think that the Dem's plan to prosecute him EVERYWHERE did more to garner sympathy than it hurt.  I also think that a lot of men (especially minority men) aren't willing to vote for a female president.   The shift from 10% of black men to 25% of black men voting Trump is astounding.  I think identity politics as a campaign strategy backfired for the Dems this time. 

Lets face it... she wasn't a good candidate.  He wasn't, either, but she was worse.  

But I'm definitely surprised by the results.  

I just hope it doesn't turn into "Retribution 2025.... Make 'em pay!!!"  

We don't need that.  

I'm also curious if Trump will survive this term (healthwise) better than Biden.  Biden deteriorated big-time during his term.  I'm curious if Trump will fare any better.

 

[LumRaiderFan]

6 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

This.... I was really surprised by this.  His vote totals aren't that far above his 2020 numbers, but the Dem voters disappeared.  

I expected him to lose the popular handily.

It's going to be interesting to digest the data as it trickles in.  I think that the Dem's plan to prosecute him EVERYWHERE did more to garner sympathy than it hurt.  I also think that a lot of men (especially minority men) aren't willing to vote for a female president.   The shift from 10% of black men to 25% of black men voting Trump is astounding.  I think identity politics as a campaign strategy backfired for the Dems this time. 

Lets face it... she wasn't a good candidate.  He wasn't, either, but she was worse.  

But I'm definitely surprised by the results.  

I just hope it doesn't turn into "Retribution 2025.... Make 'em pay!!!"  

We don't need that.  

I'm also curious if Trump will survive this term (healthwise) better than Biden.  Biden deteriorated big-time during his term.  I'm curious if Trump will fare any better.

 

The reason you're surprised by the results is that you keep insisting he wasn't a good candidate.

Apparently most of America disagrees with you, but you haven't been right about this election since day one.

And I get a kick out of you and others that are worried about him doing something he's never done..."Make 'em pay", "Go off the rails", lol lol lol

You blew it by taking no part in the victory, so pardon me if I don't take your lecture to heart.

[baddog]

14 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

The reason you're surprised by the results is that you keep insisting he wasn't a good candidate.

Apparently most of America disagrees with you, but you haven't been right about this election since day one.

And I get a kick out of you and others that are worried about him doing something he's never done..."Make 'em pay", "Go off the rails", lol lol lol

You blew it by taking no part in the victory, so pardon me if I don't take your lecture to heart.

Out of likes. Except for New England, NM, and Hawaii, the entire US is 90% RED. The blue strongholds in every state is in the big cities…..including Texas. Even though Trump won the popular vote, thank God for the visionaries that were our founding fathers…..knowing back then that an electoral college was needed. This map is showing house districts red/blue. Look at the concentrations.

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[thetragichippy]

3 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

I think that the Dem's plan to prosecute him EVERYWHERE did more to garner sympathy than it hurt. 

An admission of Biden's justice department going after Trump?

[CardinalBacker]

18 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

An admission of Biden's justice department going after Trump?

No… but between them, the da in NYC, etc… it was too much. 
 

I believe that some crimes were committed, but I believe that a lot of the prosecution was flimsy at best. The NY fraud case re:property values, etc. 

Thats the problem with filing frivolous claims-it casts doubt on the legitimate claims. 
 

The scary thing is that trump affiliates like banning are vowing to “make ‘em pay” and a lot of citizens are pre-justifying it by saying “well, can you blame him if he does?”

 

Yes. I can and I shall. 

[thetragichippy]

13 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Yes. I can and I shall

If there is evidence it was tied to the Biden campaign to prevent Trump from running for President, I FULLY support a prosecution....and you should too....next time it could be your guy.

And while it sounds like a conspiracy theory.......Biden straight up lied to the American people when he said he didn't talk to Hunter about his business deals and I truly believe Biden was "the big guy". 

  

[LumRaiderFan]

6 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

If there is evidence it was tied to the Biden campaign to prevent Trump from running for President, I FULLY support a prosecution....and you should too....next time it could be your guy.

And while it sounds like a conspiracy theory.......Biden straight up lied to the American people when he said he didn't talk to Hunter about his business deals and I truly believe Biden was "the big guy". 

  

Agree 100%, Democrats put Trump through 8 years of hell on earth and now that they've lost the election, want to simply "move on" and ignore their shenanigans.

He can run the country and hold these folks accountable at the same time, if necessary.

[CardinalBacker]

37 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Agree 100%, Democrats put Trump through 8 years of hell on earth and now that they've lost the election, want to simply "move on" and ignore their shenanigans.

He can run the country and hold these folks accountable at the same time, if necessary.

Rs can try to get their pound of flesh if they want. The voters just demonstrated what they thought about weaponizing the Justice department. They’ve had enough of it, and they’ll PUNISH the Rs in two years if they try to go after Ds. That’s not why we send people to Washington. 

[Separation Scientist]

44 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Agree 100%, Democrats put Trump through 8 years of hell on earth and now that they've lost the election, want to simply "move on" and ignore their shenanigans.

He can run the country and hold these folks accountable at the same time, if necessary.

100%.

After all the attacks, hate and bogus lawfare prosecutions, "Lets just move on" is what the Dims want now. Good luck with that. 

[Separation Scientist]

13 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Rs can try to get their pound of flesh if they want. The voters just demonstrated what they thought about weaponizing the Justice department. They’ve had enough of it, and they’ll PUNISH the Rs in two years if they try to go after Ds. That’s not why we send people to Washington. 

Lets see how it unfolds, shall we? 

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Trump will clear the bogus criminal cases, but is still on the hook for the fradulent $570 Million in NY Civil fines.

Lets see if the Dims and New York want to "just drop it and move on" as they say. They can start with voiding the unheard of, totally rigged, beyond ridiculous $570 Million civil verdict by the corrupt New York Judge Arthur Engoron. That would be a good first step of good will.    

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

Rs can try to get their pound of flesh if they want. The voters just demonstrated what they thought about weaponizing the Justice department. They’ve had enough of it, and they’ll PUNISH the Rs in two years if they try to go after Ds. That’s not why we send people to Washington. 

Stop trying to make predictions for the American voter, you’ve proven that you really have no idea.

By the way, you didn’t send anyone to Washington, at least not in a Presidential role.

 

[tvc184]

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

Rs can try to get their pound of flesh if they want. The voters just demonstrated what they thought about weaponizing the Justice department. They’ve had enough of it, and they’ll PUNISH the Rs in two years if they try to go after Ds. That’s not why we send people to Washington. 

Is that a tacit admission of what happened?

[BS Wildcats]

6 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

This.... I was really surprised by this.  His vote totals aren't that far above his 2020 numbers, but the Dem voters disappeared.  

I expected him to lose the popular handily.

It's going to be interesting to digest the data as it trickles in.  I think that the Dem's plan to prosecute him EVERYWHERE did more to garner sympathy than it hurt.  I also think that a lot of men (especially minority men) aren't willing to vote for a female president.   The shift from 10% of black men to 25% of black men voting Trump is astounding.  I think identity politics as a campaign strategy backfired for the Dems this time. 

Lets face it... she wasn't a good candidate.  He wasn't, either, but she was worse.  

But I'm definitely surprised by the results.  

I just hope it doesn't turn into "Retribution 2025.... Make 'em pay!!!"  

We don't need that.  

I'm also curious if Trump will survive this term (healthwise) better than Biden.  Biden deteriorated big-time during his term.  I'm curious if Trump will fare any better.

 

The Dims have done this for 8 years, and you never had a problem with it!!

[Separation Scientist]

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

 

6 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said:

The Dims have done this for 8 years, and you never had a problem with it!!

He just got religion about 12 hrs. ago. 

[baddog]

20 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Is that a tacit admission of what happened?

Give them enough rope…..