My thoughts for what they are worth….

[tvc184]

I have almost completely avoided commenting on the election in these forums. I have avoided most politics threads.

So with it over, these are my thoughts.

The Democrats are all about identity politics, period.  Not only about identity of potential voters but about candidates. That doomed them.

They have twice chosen a female to run with their banner but was either the best candidate or even the best woman candidate? No.

Clinton’s primary was rigged and Harris had no primary. When Harris ran in 2020 she could not even muster the support to win a single delegate. Let that sink in. The Democrats resoundingly rejected Harris four years ago. 

In my opinion the Democrats through Clinton, created Trump. In a normal election Trump should never have stood a chance in 2016 but against one of the worst candidates in history, the coronation of the first woman president didn’t happen. 

Was Clinton the best Democrat in the country? It only came down to a socialist in Bernie Sanders and “the first woman”. Why didn’t anyone (big names) else run?  It isn’t rocket science. The fix for Clinton and the super delegates was in. No Democrat with future aspirations would dare jump in and risk a defeat. 

Jump to 2024 and it was rigged again to break the glass ceiling. Of course someone could ignore that it was kind of a shock that Biden dropped out after he had secured the nomination but in smoke filled rooms this was the plan all along. Harris could not run against her boss so the Dems had to back him but then a couple of months before the election, force him out and install Harris without having her run. They hoped the bump would hold but it started fading quickly. They couldn’t wait to name her however because the DNC convention was looming and the call behind the scenes was forced in order for Harris to basically be selected (not elected) unopposed st the convention. It was now or never. Like Clinton, was Harris the best Democrat candidate? I think the result last night was a resounding no.

So who best Harris? According to the Democrats it was a guy who had the baggage of…

Orangeman bad

Mean tweets

Twice impeached

Convicted on felonies

Sued for issues many years ago

Insurrectionist

Abortion rights removal by the Supreme Court and Trump appointed justices 

Fascist

Hitler

Garbage

Will overturn the Constitution on his first day in office

A threat to democracy 

Etc.

 And yet, Harris got thumped. How could anyone think that Trump could win with such (claimed) baggage… but he did.

 That tells you how bad and delusional the Democrats are. With all of the baggage, how could the Democrat candidate not have won a record breaking landslide like Reagan in 1984?

Easy. By selecting a person based on boxes checked.

 The Democrats created Donald Trump and their internally rigged elections have come back to them. 

 This was not a Donald Trump win. It was a resounding Democrat loss. 

[HuntersLaptop2028]

Blue hairs will scream that Kamala wasn’t progressive enough, get their way, and lose in a bigger landslide in 2028

the goal is to make as much money in the meantime before it all burns down and inflation picks back up 

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13 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

I have almost completely avoided commenting on the election in these forums. I have avoided most politics threads.

So with it over, these are my thoughts.

The Democrats are all about identity politics, period.  Not only about identity of potential voters but about candidates. That doomed them.

They have twice chosen a female to run with their banner but was either the best candidate or even the best woman candidate? No.

Clinton’s primary was rigged and Harris had no primary. When Harris ran in 2020 she could not even muster the support to win a single delegate. Let that sink in. The Democrats resoundingly rejected Harris four years ago. 

In my opinion the Democrats through Clinton, created Trump. In a normal election Trump should never have stood a chance in 2016 but against one of the worst candidates in history, the coronation of the first woman president didn’t happen. 

Was Clinton the best Democrat in the country? It only came down to a socialist in Bernie Sanders and “the first woman”. Why didn’t anyone (big names) else run?  It isn’t rocket science. The fix for Clinton and the super delegates was in. No Democrat with future aspirations would dare jump in and risk a defeat. 

Jump to 2024 and it was rigged again to break the glass ceiling. Of course someone could ignore that it was kind of a shock that Biden dropped out after he had secured the nomination but in smoke filled rooms this was the plan all along. Harris could not run against her boss so the Dems had to back him but then a couple of months before the election, force him out and install Harris without having her run. They hoped the bump would hold but it started fading quickly. They couldn’t wait to name her however because the DNC convention was looming and the call behind the scenes was forced in order for Harris to basically be selected (not elected) unopposed st the convention. It was now or never. Like Clinton, was Harris the best Democrat candidate? I think the result last night was a resounding no.

So who best Harris? According to the Democrats it was a guy who had the baggage of…

Orangeman bad

Mean tweets

Twice impeached

Convicted on felonies

Sued for issues many years ago

Insurrectionist

Abortion rights removal by the Supreme Court and Trump appointed justices 

Fascist

Hitler

Garbage

Will overturn the Constitution on his first day in office

A threat to democracy 

Etc.

 And yet, Harris got thumped. How could anyone think that Trump could win with such (claimed) baggage… but he did.

 That tells you how bad and delusional the Democrats are. With all of the baggage, how could the Democrat candidate not have won a record breaking landslide like Reagan in 1984?

Easy. By selecting a person based on boxes checked.

 The Democrats created Donald Trump and their internally rigged elections have come back to them. 

 This was not a Donald Trump win. It was a resounding Democrat loss. 

Out of likes…..excellent post.

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1 hour ago, tvc184 said:

I have almost completely avoided commenting on the election in these forums. I have avoided most politics threads.

So with it over, these are my thoughts.

The Democrats are all about identity politics, period.  Not only about identity of potential voters but about candidates. That doomed them.

They have twice chosen a female to run with their banner but was either the best candidate or even the best woman candidate? No.

Clinton’s primary was rigged and Harris had no primary. When Harris ran in 2020 she could not even muster the support to win a single delegate. Let that sink in. The Democrats resoundingly rejected Harris four years ago. 

In my opinion the Democrats through Clinton, created Trump. In a normal election Trump should never have stood a chance in 2016 but against one of the worst candidates in history, the coronation of the first woman president didn’t happen. 

Was Clinton the best Democrat in the country? It only came down to a socialist in Bernie Sanders and “the first woman”. Why didn’t anyone (big names) else run?  It isn’t rocket science. The fix for Clinton and the super delegates was in. No Democrat with future aspirations would dare jump in and risk a defeat. 

Jump to 2024 and it was rigged again to break the glass ceiling. Of course someone could ignore that it was kind of a shock that Biden dropped out after he had secured the nomination but in smoke filled rooms this was the plan all along. Harris could not run against her boss so the Dems had to back him but then a couple of months before the election, force him out and install Harris without having her run. They hoped the bump would hold but it started fading quickly. They couldn’t wait to name her however because the DNC convention was looming and the call behind the scenes was forced in order for Harris to basically be selected (not elected) unopposed st the convention. It was now or never. Like Clinton, was Harris the best Democrat candidate? I think the result last night was a resounding no.

So who best Harris? According to the Democrats it was a guy who had the baggage of…

Orangeman bad

Mean tweets

Twice impeached

Convicted on felonies

Sued for issues many years ago

Insurrectionist

Abortion rights removal by the Supreme Court and Trump appointed justices 

Fascist

Hitler

Garbage

Will overturn the Constitution on his first day in office

A threat to democracy 

Etc.

 And yet, Harris got thumped. How could anyone think that Trump could win with such (claimed) baggage… but he did.

 That tells you how bad and delusional the Democrats are. With all of the baggage, how could the Democrat candidate not have won a record breaking landslide like Reagan in 1984?

Easy. By selecting a person based on boxes checked.

 The Democrats created Donald Trump and their internally rigged elections have come back to them. 

 This was not a Donald Trump win. It was a resounding Democrat loss. 

Good post, but I also think Harris, as unpopular as she was, seemed to indicate she was ok with the last 4 years and would even carry on, so she was having to overcome more than just a very unlikable personality, she was dragging around a horrible record AND saying she couldn't think of anything she'd change.

I also think this was a Donald Trump win, many folks liked how the country was going during his term and would like to see that time return.