baddog Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 Good deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Separation Scientist Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 Love it! Pay the debt you signed up for and agreed to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntersLaptop2028 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 1 hour ago, Separation Scientist said: Love it! Pay the debt you signed up for and agreed to! Wish that applied to the $1 trillion PPP in free money handouts Im ready next time it happens though. I pay a crazy amount in taxes so I’m going to get as much “free” government money where I can Big girl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted November 8 Author Report Share Posted November 8 57 minutes ago, HuntersLaptop2028 said: Wish that applied to the $1 trillion PPP in free money handouts Im ready next time it happens though. I pay a crazy amount in taxes so I’m going to get as much “free” government money where I can This has nothing to do with student loan forgiveness. Stop highjacking threads Trump. Maga Separation Scientist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 On 11/8/2024 at 4:19 PM, HuntersLaptop2028 said: Wish that applied to the $1 trillion PPP in free money handouts Im ready next time it happens though. I pay a crazy amount in taxes so I’m going to get as much “free” government money where I can As long as it falls within the guidelines of the tax code, and I don't a.) have to repay it or b.) get penalized for it, then I don't have an issue with it. I don't know what the definition of "fair share" means to everybody, but I'm pretty sure I fill that requirement and then some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 On 11/8/2024 at 4:19 PM, HuntersLaptop2028 said: Wish that applied to the $1 trillion PPP in free money handouts It was based on your monthly expenses, and you got 80% of that. It was for payroll (to employees) and rent on your business. If you fired anyone you had to pay it back. And different from Student Loan Forgiveness - All of this was agreed to before signing the agreement. Your post make it obvious why Trump was elected in a clean electoral sweep, the popular vote and both houses...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 23 minutes ago, thetragichippy said: It was based on your monthly expenses, and you got 80% of that. It was for payroll (to employees) and rent on your business. If you fired anyone you had to pay it back. And different from Student Loan Forgiveness - All of this was agreed to before signing the agreement. Your post make it obvious why Trump was elected in a clean electoral sweep, the popular vote and both houses...... How many loans were forgiven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 On 11/8/2024 at 4:19 PM, HuntersLaptop2028 said: Wish that applied to the $1 trillion PPP in free money handouts Im ready next time it happens though. I pay a crazy amount in taxes so I’m going to get as much “free” government money where I can Lol. They fight for the rights of the wealthy. Rich people had their loans forgiven and they were ok with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up In fact, Congress passed and the President signed into law TEPSLF in 2018 which expanded the original PSLF benefits and helped borrowers who were denied PSLF the first time around get a second shot at tax-free forgiveness. PSLF-Public Service Loan Forgiveness Started by a Republican President in 2007. Expanded by Trump in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 20 minutes ago, Big girl said: This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up In fact, Congress passed and the President signed into law TEPSLF in 2018 which expanded the original PSLF benefits and helped borrowers who were denied PSLF the first time around get a second shot at tax-free forgiveness. PSLF-Public Service Loan Forgiveness Started by a Republican President in 2007. Expanded by Trump in 2018. For a little more accurate description. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up From the article: After the disastrous results of 2017, both Congress and the Dept. of Ed. moved to streamline the process and provide options for some rejected borrowers. Some of the most common rejections were due to non-qualifying employment—addressed in 2012 by adding the ECF—and by being on a non-qualifying payment plan. To amend the latter problem, the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2018 temporarily expanded PSLF (TEPSLF), which allowed borrowers who met all other qualifications for the program except for their payment plans to be considered for forgiveness. The Act, however, only allows a certain total amount to be forgiven and once that figure is met—on a first-come, first-served basis—the program will end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted November 12 Author Report Share Posted November 12 Non qualifying employment……wouldn’t the income from being a nurse disqualify a person from said forgiveness? Think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 Also, the cost of the TEPSLF was $700 million dollars, which ain't chump change but it's well south of a trillion plus that biden put out. Looks like Trump compromised / caved on this one. I definitely don't agree with anyone having debt relieved when they're very capable of paying it off, like yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 Just now, baddog said: Non qualifying employment……wouldn’t the income from being a nurse disqualify a person from said forgiveness? Think about it. You would think so, looks like the intent was to help out folks that got a crap degree they couldn't use. But hey, at east they're educated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 58 minutes ago, Big girl said: How many loans were forgiven? A lot...... Some where not. My branch was one of the banks picked to enter the loan application and if approved, could issue the check. There were strict rules, and I've helped a few who missed emails and were in default. The email had to be re-sent to a active email account and they had to produce documents of how it was spent or they would have to start paying it back. Again- night and day from student loan forgiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 3 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: For a little more accurate description. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up From the article: After the disastrous results of 2017, both Congress and the Dept. of Ed. moved to streamline the process and provide options for some rejected borrowers. Some of the most common rejections were due to non-qualifying employment—addressed in 2012 by adding the ECF—and by being on a non-qualifying payment plan. To amend the latter problem, the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2018 temporarily expanded PSLF (TEPSLF), which allowed borrowers who met all other qualifications for the program except for their payment plans to be considered for forgiveness. The Act, however, only allows a certain total amount to be forgiven and once that figure is met—on a first-come, first-served basis—the program will end. So he expanded it. I was correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 3 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Also, the cost of the TEPSLF was $700 million dollars, which ain't chump change but it's well south of a trillion plus that biden put out. Looks like Trump compromised / caved on this one. I definitely don't agree with anyone having debt relieved when they're very capable of paying it off, like yourself. Were you ok when Trump's daughter and son in law had their PPP loan forgiven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 3 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: You would think so, looks like the intent was to help out folks that got a crap degree they couldn't use. But hey, at east they're educated. A lot of nurses work for not for profit companies; therefore, the loans were forgiven. It is called Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 1 hour ago, Big girl said: Were you ok when Trump's daughter and son in law had their PPP loan forgiven? Don't know their particular circumstances but when the government unnecessarily forces a business to shut down and stay shut down then yeah, I would expect them to fix the problem they actually created. Are you ok with it being forgiven? There’s no comparison between PPP and student loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 1 hour ago, Big girl said: A lot of nurses work for not for profit companies; therefore, the loans were forgiven. It is called Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) It's very simple, don't voluntarily borrow money you aren't going to pay back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 1 hour ago, Big girl said: So he expanded it. I was correct. He signed it, no doubt, you are correct. I think this is the first time, am I correct? Just kidding, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 13 Report Share Posted November 13 2 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: It's very simple, don't voluntarily borrow money you aren't going to pay back. Are you ok with Trump's daughter and son-in-law getting their PPP loan forgiven. They could've paid it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 13 Report Share Posted November 13 3 hours ago, Big girl said: Are you ok with Trump's daughter and son-in-law getting their PPP loan forgiven. They could've paid it back I am, as long as they went by rules set forth by their government. Just because it’s a Trump makes no difference. You could have paid your loan back that you voluntarily agreed to, businesses that were shut down had no choice, so I have no problem with government taking care of a problem it created. You chose to default on a loan the you asked for, there is no comparison between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted November 13 Author Report Share Posted November 13 9 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: I am, as long as they went by rules set forth by their government. Just because it’s a Trump makes no difference. You could have paid your loan back that you voluntarily agreed to, businesses that were shut down had no choice, so I have no problem with government taking care of a problem it created. You chose to default on a loan the you asked for, there is no comparison between the two. She keeps throwing out “whataboutisms” trying to justify her thievery. It isn’t working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 14 Report Share Posted November 14 On 11/12/2024 at 4:19 PM, LumRaiderFan said: He signed it, no doubt, you are correct. I think this is the first time, am I correct? Just kidding, lol Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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