LumRaiderFan Posted November 13 Report Posted November 13 This will drive almost 100% of Washington politicians crazy, we need to beak the cycle of expecting elected officials to go to Washington to bring home fluff for their specific districts / states. This will, no doubt, be the most unpopular department in Washington. Quote
thetragichippy Posted November 13 Report Posted November 13 3 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: This will drive almost 100% of Washington politicians crazy, we need to beak the cycle of expecting elected officials to go to Washington to bring home fluff for their specific districts / states. This will, no doubt, be the most unpopular department in Washington. Maybe.....but it should be popular to the people that actually care about money spent and what it's spent on.....I can see it now.... $500,000 study of how new roads effect the breeding of mosquito's - CUT 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 13 Report Posted November 13 1 hour ago, thetragichippy said: Maybe.....but it should be popular to the people that actually care about money spent and what it's spent on.....I can see it now.... $500,000 study of how new roads effect the breeding of mosquito's - CUT Agree, I think it’s a great move. thetragichippy 1 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted November 18 Report Posted November 18 Did I hear Elon correctly that he and vivek are not taking a paycheck? Quote
Reagan Posted November 18 Author Report Posted November 18 I just heard we spent $500 Million in Russia to study cats. Anyone actually gullible enough to think that money actually went to study cats?! SMH! Quote
Eagle11 Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 And put 50% of every dollar saved/cut towards care for our veterans. Quote
SmashMouth Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 15 minutes ago, Eagle11 said: And put 50% of every dollar saved/cut towards care for our veterans. I would respectfully disagree. Btw, both my parents were United States Marines - my Dad was a lifer... 30 years. First, we need to address the deficit. I would say that the administration needs to come up with (and adhere to) a budget for ALL programs while making sure there are ample funds for veteran's programs. I wouldn't just start throwing money at ANY program without a realistic budget. Additionally, as relates to veterans, I would hope for a revamped VA before I just poured money into that cesspool of inefficiency. Let's get the deficit addressed first which is only going to happen with unpopular and difficult cuts and doing away with frivolous uncontrolled spending. I'm not saying to kick veterans to the curb. I'm saying that we need to get our house in order before we keep spending additional monies that we don't really have. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
Eagle11 Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 1 minute ago, SmashMouth said: I would respectfully disagree. Btw, both my parents were United States Marines - my Dad was a lifer... 30 years. First, we need to address the deficit. I would say that the administration needs to come up with (and adhere to) a budget for ALL programs while making sure there are ample funds for veteran's programs. I wouldn't just start throwing money at ANY program without a realistic budget. Additionally, as relates to veterans, I would hope for a revamped VA before I just poured money into that cesspool of inefficiency. Let's get the deficit addressed first which is only going to happen with unpopular and difficult cuts and doing away with frivolous uncontrolled spending. I'm not saying to kick veterans to the curb. I'm saying that we need to get our house in order before we keep spending additional monies that we don't really have. I am with you on that. That is why I say 50% and not every dollar. I believe there is enough savings that we can do both. Total revamp of VA This country has been throwing money around like Phil Mickelson and John Daly in the high roller room at Bellagio. Quote
SmashMouth Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 54 minutes ago, Eagle11 said: I believe there is enough savings that we can do both. While I can definitely appreciate your sentiment towards our vets, with a 36 trillion dollar debt (and counting), I would say that doing both is not feasible. 50% savings on wasteful spending isn't going to clear that debt up. Private sector donations would be the way to go. For those who feel that strongly about helping out our vets, donate time, money (if you have it) and professional resources (pro bono work). We need to quit relying on the government to be our savior. They are the exact opposite. Separate yourself from government reliance. As people depend on handouts, they become passive. They don't push through obstacles. They wait for government help. Certainly there are plenty of those who do require assistance, but there are way too many that bleed the system - including our beloved politicians. They use frivolous handouts and deficit spending to garner votes - and to line their pockets. The vets are very important - but so is the well-being of ALL Americans and the strength of our economy. Quote
Eagle11 Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 4 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: While I can definitely appreciate your sentiment towards our vets, with a 36 trillion dollar debt (and counting), I would say that doing both is not feasible. 50% savings on wasteful spending isn't going to clear that debt up. Private sector donations would be the way to go. For those who feel that strongly about helping out our vets, donate time, money (if you have it) and professional resources (pro bono work). We need to quit relying on the government to be our savior. They are the exact opposite. Separate yourself from government reliance. As people depend on handouts, they become passive. They don't push through obstacles. They wait for government help. Certainly there are plenty of those who do require assistance, but there are way too many that bleed the system - including our beloved politicians. They use frivolous handouts and deficit spending to garner votes - and to line their pockets. The vets are very important - but so is the well-being of ALL Americans and the strength of our economy. When I am speaking of veterans I do not view them as dependent on handouts. Yes, there are many in America that depend on government to carry them along but not vets. This country spent billions of dollars sending them off to war, we can spend the same to take care of them when they return from war. If we could stop funding useless studies around the world, sending billions to countries that hate us and funding departments in Washington DC (Dept. of Education being one) the savings would start. I agree with you that tough, unpopular choices will have to be made but veteran care would be off the table for me. And a huge Thank You to your parents for their service Quote
SmashMouth Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 20 minutes ago, Eagle11 said: 1. When I am speaking of veterans I do not view them as dependent on handouts. Yes, there are many in America that depend on government to carry them along but not vets. This country spent billions of dollars sending them off to war, we can spend the same to take care of them when they return from war. If we could stop funding useless studies around the world, sending billions to countries that hate us and funding departments in Washington DC (Dept. of Education being one) the savings would start. I agree with you that tough, unpopular choices will have to be made but veteran care would be off the table for me. 2. And a huge Thank You to your parents for their service 1. I don’t consider that a handout whatsoever either. I just think we have to focus on the debt and deficit spending first and foremost. I certainly appreciate your concern for our vets. 2. I’m sure they would appreciate your thanks. Thank you for the recognition. Eagle11 1 Quote
Reagan Posted November 23 Author Report Posted November 23 How stupid is this?! Remember -- if you can't cut the little things then you can't cut the big things! Start cutting!! Quote
Reagan Posted November 25 Author Report Posted November 25 In 2022, the Federal Government Accountability Office found $247,000,000,000 in improper payments made across 82 programs, including $81B from Medicaid & $47B from Medicare. WOW!! Quote
Reagan Posted December 7 Author Report Posted December 7 The 22 ways to cut back spending 1. Fill or sell off vacant buildings wasting $8 billion per year 2. Audit the IRS and workers 'who aren't paying their own taxes' 3. Dismantle President Biden's 'billion dollar boondoggles' 4. Cancel California 'gravy trains' costing $1.8 million per day 5. Stop 'Christmas in September' end of year spending 6. Eradicate giving welfare for politicians 'destined for failure' 7. Change the composition of coins to save money 8. Stop 'bogus bonuses' for bad federal workers 9. Investigate 'silly science projects' wasting millions 10. Slash unemployment for millionaires 11. Delete all 'government swag' including koozies and key chains 12. Consolidate agencies' cloud licenses to save $750 million 13. Stop all funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology 14. End overpayment to the United Nations 15. Slash the Pentagon's waste of over $125 billion 16. Remove 'ineligible recipients' of federal employees health benefits 17. Put federal workers 'wasting time doing nothing' to work 18. Give more support to agriculture instead of pet projects 19. Work closely with GAO to reduce duplication and enhance performance 20. Require 'commonsense project management principles' 21. Fix 'bureaucratic blunders' in the SNAP benefits program 22. Get rid of trillion dollar 'secret flush funds' Quote
CardinalBacker Posted December 9 Report Posted December 9 On 11/21/2024 at 7:53 AM, Eagle11 said: And put 50% of every dollar saved/cut towards care for our veterans. No.... that's where we need the biggest cuts. Veterans as a whole believe themselves to be the most entitled of all of the welfare queens. No more 100% disability awards while holding down good jobs. No more "I've got PTSD for all of the time that I spent in the engine room of that tug boat and I'll need free everything for life" stuff. You got a check for four years. That's thanks enough for your service. Quote
thetragichippy Posted December 9 Report Posted December 9 40 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: You got a check for four years. That's thanks enough for your service. Slightly more than 148,000 people enlisted in the US armed forces in 2020, a This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up from 1980, when 360,745 new people enlisted in the military. The number of applications to the military has dropped 73% over that same time, from 768,532 to 205,105. while the military’s acceptance rate increased from 46.9% to 72.3%. **Notice enlistment is on decline while acceptance is up. We have basically lowered our standards to have warm bodies in place.....and you want to cut more benefits? How about we get all that money back that we sent to Ukraine and take care of our military. We have never had an attack on US soil in a organized "war" (I'm not considering the balloon bombs that Japan tried to float over), and I think the main reason is our elite military. We need to take care of our military period. Quote
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