This is the sort of stuff that can't happen if the Republicans are going to keep this mandate

[Big girl]

6 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Apart from forced exposure I have trouble coming up with a valid reason for having a Bible in a classroom. And any unlikely “valid reasons” will still lead to forced exposure.  

Imagine if someone.put a Quaran in the classroom. There would be an uproar

[Separation Scientist]

Just now, bullets13 said:

Apart from forced exposure I have trouble coming up with a valid reason for having a Bible in a classroom. And any unlikely “valid reasons” will still lead to forced exposure.  

Really? I rememeber we had about a dozen Bibles in the school library. No one was ever forced to check them out. Some did reference them for historical accounts. Point is, some people just are unnerved by a Bible, even if its just sitting there gathering dust. I pity those who are.  

[Big girl]

1 minute ago, Separation Scientist said:

Really? I rememeber we had about a dozen Bibles in the school library. No one was ever forced to check them out. Some did reference them for historical accounts. Point is, some people just are unnerved by a Bible, even if its just sitting there gathering dust. I pity those who are.  

I am ok with that along as people are not  forced to read it

[Separation Scientist]

4 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Imagine if someone.put a Coran in the classroom. The would be an uproar

They are already there. Students were ASSIGNED Quran homework already. Has happened many times. Look it up. 

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[Big girl]

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They are already there. Students were ASSIGNED Quran homework already.

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Wow!!!! That's not right.

[baddog]

15 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Freedom of religion

Yes, not freedom from religion.

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

What did the court say?

I’m asking you, do you not make your own decisions or do you wait for someone to make them?

Yes or no, it’s very simple.

[Big girl]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

Yes, not freedom from religion.

Yes freedom from religion as well

[mat]

21 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Yes freedom from religion as well

Neither of those statements are in our constitution.

[baddog]

4 minutes ago, mat said:

Neither of those statements are in our constitution.

Correct. It says “prohibit the free exercise of religion” instead of freedom of religion.

[mat]

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

I actually agree with a lot of this. I have no issue with Bible classes being an elective, and I think the argument that kids who choose not to take it will be ostracized is over the top.  An elective allows those who want it to take it, and for those who are interested have an opportunity to learn about it.  For me the issue occurs when those who are not interested are subjected to forced prayer and mandatory Bible classes.  As you said, that’s not how Christianity works.  Nobody should be told they can’t pray, and nobody should be told they have to.  

 My third grade granddaughter came home telling me all about the Greek gods and what they represented. By the way, she perceived them as real. But discussing God, the creator of the universe and all mind kind is off limits.

[Big girl]

1 hour ago, mat said:

Neither of those statements are in our constitution.

Paraphrase

[Big girl]

7 hours ago, mat said:

 My third grade granddaughter came home telling me all about the Greek gods and what they represented. By the way, she perceived them as real. But discussing God, the creator of the universe and all mind kind is off limits.

Not good

[wbfan]

What's with Conservative Christians and always wanting to force the Bible on everyone?

[mat]

What’s with liberals that are affected or threatened by the presence of a Bible in the classroom?

[HuntersLaptop2028]

1 hour ago, mat said:

What’s with liberals that are affected or threatened by the presence of a Bible in the classroom?

Fact - if you were born in Iran, instead of Nederland, you’d be preaching about Allah and Muhamed instead of Jesus.

You guys ever stop and think how stupid the whole thing sounds? Let’s keep it real. Religion is entirely dictated on when and where you were born 

[baddog]

Fact, if you were born to a family of non-English speaking Mexicans, you’d be speaking spanish. What’s the point?