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11 hours ago, Vini vidi said:

Question if I am a parent looking at moving to an area with a couple of places available all things being equal. Do I put my kid in the place with better facilities? Wt room, practice facilities, gyms, stadiums etc? 
They are Selling points for communities 

Me personally, I’m putting my kid or advising other friends if they ask, to enroll them in the school that will offer them the best opportunities to achieve a great education. 

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30 minutes ago, Matt Dillon said:

Me personally, I’m putting my kid or advising other friends if they ask, to enroll them in the school that will offer them the best opportunities to achieve a great education. 

I know this is what most parents want for the kids… but if your kid is a amazing athlete or thrives in a sport let’s say for example they are really good a football… and play RB…  Hardin Jefferson may offer a better education than say West Orange Stark or Newton… but the football team is likely to only win 2 games at HJ even with your son… Where are you sending him? West Orange or HJ? (These are total hypothetical scenarios) this is assuming your job and money situation is the same at either school district 

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22 minutes ago, BBfan061 said:

I know this is what most parents want for the kids… but if your kid is a amazing athlete or thrives in a sport let’s say for example they are really good a football… and play RB…  Hardin Jefferson may offer a better education than say West Orange Stark or Newton… but the football team is likely to only win 2 games at HJ even with your son… Where are you sending him? West Orange or HJ? (These are total hypothetical scenarios) this is assuming your job and money situation is the same at either school district 

kinda like the choice between an Ugly rich fat girl, or a hot broke skinny girl? lol 

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28 minutes ago, BBfan061 said:

I know this is what most parents want for the kids… but if your kid is a amazing athlete or thrives in a sport let’s say for example they are really good a football… and play RB…  Hardin Jefferson may offer a better education than say West Orange Stark or Newton… but the football team is likely to only win 2 games at HJ even with your son… Where are you sending him? West Orange or HJ? (These are total hypothetical scenarios) this is assuming your job and money situation is the same at either school district 

I completely get what you are saying. The chance to participate in successful programs is an important part of our kids life lessons. The thing is, for me anyway, is in the not too distant future, for the vast majority of kids, the game ends for them. A quality education will stay with them for a lifetime and will allow them to choose a variety of career paths. I hate seeing the guys who were big time studs and played at very high levels, late in life who have no path to take because of a lack of a good basic education. I know my town has these guys, I bet most of us know guys who fall in to this category in some way. 

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21 hours ago, Bigdog said:

Not for wins or losses, plenty of teams win with less.  They are more for the fans and community.

They don't win on a consistent basis. In the 6A district West Brook just got out of, the middle schools had better weight rooms! Every team also had turf practice fields, which are a helluva better to practice on when it rains. Also, teams that have indoor facilities have a major advantage. When it rains, they can have a regular practice. They don' have to use a gym, where you have a quarter of the space and you can't hit. Yeah, facilities matter!

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3 hours ago, Matt Dillon said:

Me personally, I’m putting my kid or advising other friends if they ask, to enroll them in the school that will offer them the best opportunities to achieve a great education. 

Most times the places with the top end facilities tend to have better than average educational opportunities. There are exceptions just very few

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1 hour ago, Vini vidi said:

Most times the places with the top end facilities tend to have better than average educational opportunities. There are exceptions just very few

A lot of times great facilities are an indicator of what could be a great school district, but the number one determining factor in a school’s ability to provide a quality education is the talent in the classroom.  I used to know of several schools that didn’t wow anyone with their facilities, but did a fantastic job of providing a quality education for their kids. I’m sure over the course of the past several years, some of those could have changed. But generally, schools that have been successful providing a quality education are kind of like those historically successful athletic departments, it just becomes a way of life for them

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