Waco La Vega (42) vs West Orange-Stark (20) - FINAL

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, WO-S 89 said:

A drop in talent in football is crazy to say. I guess Cornel knew the talent was drying up so he retired.  Thats just stupid to think that.  

I am not saying there is no talent, just not as much these last few years,

From my eye, I honestly believe there has been a drop. Nothing astronomical, but still a drop. Have had others tell me the same.

[WO-S 89]

1 minute ago, Who That said:

He didn't say that..! 🤦🏻‍♂️

Talent across the board has dropped.  That means football too 

[WO-S 89]

3 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I am not saying there is no talent, just not as much these last few years,

From my eye, I honestly believe there has been a drop. Nothing astronomical, but still a drop. Have had others tell me the same.

Ok, has anybody mention we have had a big drop off in coaching or is it just players 

[WO-S 89]

It’s funny for 44 years Hooks and Thompson never had a drop off in talent. 

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, WO-S 89 said:

Ok, has anybody mention we have had a big drop off in coaching?  

If you are talking football, then yes. But keep it in perspective. You had two Hall of Fame coaches prior to now. Most would expect a drop.

The fact is WO-S has been spoiled with having two HOF coaches over a 45 year period. Also a very experienced coaching staff over those years, That is something that many many schools dream of.

Welcome to the real world. lol

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, WO-S 89 said:

It’s funny for 44 years Hooks and Thompson never had a drop off in talent. 

Most of those years they had a 1200 enrollment or more.

Now under 700.

Just those numbers say a loss of some talent.

[WO-S 89]

1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If you are talking football, then yes. But keep it in perspective. You had two Hall of Fame coaches prior to now. Most would expect a drop.

The fact is WO-S has been spoiled with having two HOF coaches over a 45 year period. Also a very experienced coaching staff over those years, That is something that many many schools dream of.

Welcome to the real world. lol

Ok I agree with u on that but if T would have never left we would not be talking about talent is not there.  

[WO-S 89]

4 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Most of those years they had a 1200 enrollment or more.

Now under 700.

Just those numbers say a loss of some talent.

Ok but we are playing school with about same enrollment now.   We are not still playing teams with 1200 plus 

[AggiesAreWe]

5 minutes ago, WO-S 89 said:

Ok but we are playing school with about same enrollment now.   We are not still playing teams with 1200 plus 

Solid point

[WO-S 89]

7 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Solid point

All I’m saying is the downward spiral started 3 years ago and the talent is still there in 4a 

[wo-s#1]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

As most on here know I am all about the numbers. Nothing good about those numbers, particularly the girls sports. 12-89???

Most want to point at the coaching aspect of these numbers (and rightly so). But those numbers also scream lack of talent.

I watch a lot of football and basketball (more basketball than anything) over the last several years and some baseball and softball. (no volleyball). Personally IMO, I have seen a drop in talent at WO-S across the board. I also talk with lot's of area coaches (multiple sports) and many say the same thing about WO-S athletics. The talent has dropped.

Now it ain't all about the athletes though. It's also a fact the experience level on the athletic staff at WO-S is not nearly experienced as it once was. I am talking all sports, not just football. That has a lot to do with the lack of success as well.

The real question is, why are there not highly experienced coaches at WO-S? I think most have an idea as to why but I think it's more than just that. 

I think football is getting better. Boys basketball has had it's moments over the last couple years as well. But the other sports are certainly struggling, to say the least.

The baseball coach has a ton of experience at high school and college level and hasn’t done anything for I think around 7 years now,it’s just something that the higher ups live with.And there has been talent come through that he hasn’t done anything with!

[BADSANTA]

West Orange Stark has been a powerhouse since I csn remember. At some point, your bound to fall off to some degree. Alabama has 3 or 4 loses this season. Who would have thought? Has Orange lost kids to LCM or even Orangefield?

[1970]

On 11/22/2024 at 8:01 PM, wo-s#1 said:

Their defense is legit…offense is basically #0

Still, from what little I saw, it should have been a much closer game.  WOS was missing some fundamentals on defense, and a lack of imaginative play calling on offense.  Just my opinion as an objective observer on Texan Live, which was horrible btw, but that's another story. 

[Tiger33]

42 minutes ago, 1970 said:

Still, from what little I saw, it should have been a much closer game.  WOS was missing some fundamentals on defense, and a lack of imaginative play calling on offense.  Just my opinion as an objective observer on Texan Live, which was horrible btw, but that's another story. 

That defense was horrendous. Ive never imagine to see WOS pursuit angles to be that bad. Not physical and poor tackling.