Madison, WI school shooting…

[tvc184]

It seems like at least 5 dead at a Christian school including the juvenile shooter.

 Not much else except the shooter might be a student at the school and a good chance of a self-inflicted wound.

[thetragichippy]

2 hours ago, tvc184 said:

 Not much else except the shooter might be a student at the school and a good chance of a self-inflicted wound.

According to reports, PD did not fire a shot. 

[tvc184]

4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

According to reports, PD did not fire a shot. 

Yeah, DOA….. on arrival of the police.

 Therein lies the problem that people sometimes neglect. How do you deter a person who has no intent on survival? 

[thetragichippy]

Just now, tvc184 said:

How do you deter a person who has no intent on survival? 

You don't. Personally I think the only thing you can do is have teachers armed, and that will limit the number but there will still be deaths.  Security guards can help, but the shooter will go where he ain't......at least they would not know what teacher is armed. 

[mat]

17 year old female shooter. Unusual.

[tvc184]

5 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

You don't. Personally I think the only thing you can do is have teachers armed, and that will limit the number but there will still be deaths.  Security guards can help, but the shooter will go where he ain't......at least they would not know what teacher is armed. 

There might be members of this forum who are carrying weapons in schools.

You are correct in going around guards. In Columbine, which seems to have set the trend on such incidents, there was an officer on campus. Klebold and Harris had plans deal with him. In fact, they had planned to take him out where he normally goes to lunch at that time. He messed them up by brown bagging that day, which was unusual. What many people may not know is that the on campus police officer engaged them in gunfire almost immediately and although tragic, they could’ve killed several dozen students but were unable due to the police officer on scene. Twelve students is horrible but it’s better than 50. 

[baddog]

This girl was 15 years old and suicidal. She didn’t end up this way overnight. Could anyone have predicted that she could do such a thing as being a school shooter? Probably not, but I suspect the parent(s) should have at least known she needed help. Was she bullied or just depressed? Either way, I would have noticed a change in my child. I think even teachers can notice behavioral differences. Am I placing blame here? Not convincingly, but I think we should all be aware of mood swings and attitude in general, especially people we are in contact with on a daily basis. 

Someone hell bent on taking their own life is almost impossible to prevent. It’s a shame they have to commit a heinous act like this instead of just going through with the inevitable.

 

[tvc184]

As we all know, the Texas legislature meets every odd year. The next session starts about four weeks from now in mid January.

Thousands of bills will be filed in the next three months or so but some are already filed as legislators try to get a head start. They can take no action on the bills until the session begins but at least they will already be on a file when the session does start.

One such Bill submitted in the Senate would allow anyone with an LTC to carry on a school campus, including inside of buildings. The handgun has to be concealed. Also, in that bill, a school district cannot enact a rule or ordinance prohibiting such carry. This bill would also cover staff and faculty employed by the schools.

I have no idea how this bill will be received. Some bills are filed and that is the end of it. They are killed in committee and will never even be discussed. I would think that after Uvalde and after other incidents in the news, such as this one in Wisconsin, this bill will at least be looked at seriously.

[SmashMouth]

On 12/19/2024 at 1:30 PM, tvc184 said:

As we all know, the Texas legislature meets every odd year. The next session starts about four weeks from now in mid January.

Thousands of bills will be filed in the next three months or so but some are already filed as legislators try to get a head start. They can take no action on the bills until the session begins but at least they will already be on a file when the session does start.

One such Bill submitted in the Senate would allow anyone with an LTC to carry on a school campus, including inside of buildings. The handgun has to be concealed. Also, in that bill, a school district cannot enact a rule or ordinance prohibiting such carry. This bill would also cover staff and faculty employed by the schools.

I have no idea how this bill will be received. Some bills are filed and that is the end of it. They are killed in committee and will never even be discussed. I would think that after Uvalde and after other incidents in the news, such as this one in Wisconsin, this bill will at least be looked at seriously.

I don't mind some teachers, school admins, security and the like being able to carry, but I sure hope they don't make it a free for all. Just my opinion.