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4 minutes ago, gary-us-bonds said:

Battle between one team that recruits and another that is a 6a team masquerading as a 5a team due to just opening 

It's Randle's third year at playing varsity sports so they have all four classes in their enrollment.

They may be 6A next realignment, but their enrollment now is four classes and not just 2 or 3 like some new schools.

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3 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

It's Randle's third year at playing varsity sports so they have all four classes in their enrollment.

They may be 6A next realignment, but their enrollment now is four classes and not just 2 or 3 like some new schools.

So, are you agreeing with gary-us-bonds?  Or disagreeing.  What did he mean by his statement, and what do you mean by yours?   I'm just curious. 

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12 minutes ago, 1970 said:

So, are you agreeing with gary-us-bonds?  Or disagreeing.  What did he mean by his statement, and what do you mean by yours?   I'm just curious. 

He is saying that Randle is masquerading as a 6A team. I disagree.

I could see if Randle only had 2 or 3 classes (no senior class) and not all 4. Then one could say they actually have a potential enrollment of a 6A. But that is not the case. Randle has been open for 3 years and has all 4 classes.

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Even if Randle didn’t have all four grades, I don’t see how they could masquerade down as a lower classification. The UIL applies a multiplication factor to the submitted enrollment counts for schools with less than four grades to prevent this. 

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1 hour ago, DukeS said:

Even if Randle didn’t have all four grades, I don’t see how they could masquerade down as a lower classification. The UIL applies a multiplication factor to the submitted enrollment counts for schools with less than four grades to prevent this. 

Correct.

Randle is a 5A DII school.

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13 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Correct.

Randle is a 5A DII school.

It has been mentioned all season that they will most likely be 6a in the next alignment. But I agree they currently qualify as 5ad2. No different than the other largest schools in any division that have more kids today than the last snapshot number. With the growing population of our great state I'd assume it happens alot more than we think

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I just reviewed those formulas for new schools and my understanding is it only affects the first year or entering into competition. I don't believe any calculation occurs last year when they have already gone through an initial opening calculation three years ago. This is their second alignment.

I am not saying they did anything on ourposebut just like George Ranch when they won State, they get the advantage of being a growing school that catches enrollment that gives them 5a division 2 numbers. Those numbers were taken last year. I am sure today they have 6a division 2 numbers enrolled in the school and eligible to play ball.

They will get two years of this advantage then likely fade into obscurity like George Ranch did 

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I wish UIL could look at each school avg numbers from the year before and a significant increase of kids from say 5A D2 to 6A numbers make them not eligible for the playoffs. Only fair… if they move up just 1 it’s ok. But having numbers that make you jump up 2 classifications isn’t a good look.  

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1 hour ago, navydawg31 said:

I wish UIL could look at each school avg numbers from the year before and a significant increase of kids from say 5A D2 to 6A numbers make them not eligible for the playoffs. Only fair… if they move up just 1 it’s ok. But having numbers that make you jump up 2 classifications isn’t a good look.  

I have a simpler solution : Don’t do a single day count. Every day, every school in the state counts their attendance and sends that number to the state. That number results in money received from the state. Why not just take the average of those numbers the school has submitted from the beginning of the year up to the end of October? In other words, let’s use the numbers the schools use when they have every incentive for the numbers to be high, rather than have one snapshot day? Having the one snapshot day invites cheating and is a waste of time. The schools and the state already know the numbers the school uses, and the school should have to use that number.  

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