Barbers Hill is OPEN

[Clueless]

30 minutes ago, Goslin said:

5-5 is more like it with BH replacing GCM in 23-6A after next school year IF BH chooses their out-of-District opponents better than they did this last season.  They’ll get blown out by North Shore, Atascocita, Summer Creek, lose to Kingwood and CE King, and win against Humble and Channelview plus 3 tomato cans in Out of District and that gets them to 5-5 6th in District year after year after year but no better than that.    

Lot of folks with locs on those Eastside teams really looking forward to playing Barbers Hill.  Coach Abseck might not be able to see it right now but in the long run Supt. Poole may have done him a favor.

Probably, but almost all of the other sports they’ll still make the playoffs and win district in some. Still be beating schools in that district in UIL academic competitions, etc. Football will be a little rough, but BH is a lot better then GCM, might even compete for fourth place with CEK.

[Goslin]

3 hours ago, Clueless said:

Probably, but almost all of the other sports they’ll still make the playoffs and win district in some. Still be beating schools in that district in UIL academic competitions, etc. Football will be a little rough, but BH is a lot better then GCM, might even compete for fourth place with CEK.

No way BH ever competes for 4th place in 23-6A football.  King and Kingwood compete for 4th in that District.  Kingwood was 4th in District last year and ranked 84th statewide.  King was 5th in District and ranked 127th.  BH is ranked 188th.
 

You’re right about the other sports and right again about GCM, but you know same as I do that football matters most to folks on The Hill.

[Vini vidi]

In regards to the hill and 6a it all depends on the numbers. King, NS, Atascocita, and SC will all be at or above 4000 students. How the uil goes about working on this issue means everything to small to midsized 6a schools. Sure there are outliers (desoto for one) just not many. 7a or a divided 6a would be interesting. Numbers do matter

[Clueless]

10 hours ago, Goslin said:

No way BH ever competes for 4th place in 23-6A football.  King and Kingwood compete for 4th in that District.  Kingwood was 4th in District last year and ranked 84th statewide.  King was 5th in District and ranked 127th.  BH is ranked 188th.
 

You’re right about the other sports and right again about GCM, but you know same as I do that football matters most to folks on The Hill.

😁 Well thank goodness we’re not going by Maxprep rankings. We’ll just have to see how it works out. I think they’ll be ok

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, Vini vidi said:

In regards to the hill and 6a it all depends on the numbers. King, NS, Atascocita, and SC will all be at or above 4000 students. How the uil goes about working on this issue means everything to small to midsized 6a schools. Sure there are outliers (desoto for one) just not many. 7a or a divided 6a would be interesting. Numbers do matter

Also a chance that Crosby goes with NS group & BH & La Porte go with DP & Pasadena, Baytown schools.

First, BH has some repair work to do. They’ve allowed one person to put a stain on their entire ISD & town for a long time.

[Goslin]

12 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Also a chance that Crosby goes with NS group & BH & La Porte go with DP & Pasadena, Baytown schools.

First, BH has some repair work to do. They’ve allowed one person to put a stain on their entire ISD & town for a long time.

No chance.  GCM is dropping back down to 5A in ‘26.  That leaves the closest District to BH with an empty spot.  UIL had no problem throwing #800 GCM into the lion’s den so they’re not about to give BH a break.  

[Old Ape]

Jumping from class 5A to 6A is huge. Jumping from BH football district to NS football district is Mt. Everest. BH has a good Sophomore and 8th grade class which will help. 

[Goslin]

1 hour ago, Clueless said:

😁 Well thank goodness we’re not going by Maxprep rankings. We’ll just have to see how it works out. I think they’ll be ok

Dude, BH couldn’t even beat Deer Park last season, they’re never going to be able to beat both King and Kingwood.  

[Old Ape]

I dont understand why you have to pay a guy 200 G's to take this job. Is there no one in this area that would take it for 150??

Codutti, Berneathy, Flynn, Gaston, Gotte, none of them are even considered or given a chance to be considered.

[Goslin]

17 minutes ago, Old Ape said:

Jumping from class 5A to 6A is huge. Jumping from BH football district to NS football district is Mt. Everest. BH has a good Sophomore and 8th grade class which will help. 

Well, they’ll need all the help they can get.  It really hurts them losing Abseck because what they need is someone who players/parents are loyal to who can keep those Jr School athletes in place, keep their parents from transferring them out to the Open Enrollment Districts in 23-6A  GCM’s feeder Jr Schools had all their talent transfer out to Open Enrollment districts, many in 23-6A, once it became clear what District GCM would be in for the next couple years.

[THS99]

5 minutes ago, Old Ape said:

I dont understand why you have to pay a guy 200 G's to take this job. Is there no one in this area that would take it for 150??

Codutti, Berneathy, Flynn, Gaston, Gotte, none of them are even considered or given a chance to be considered.

If that number is true then that's just sad.  It's the ultimate in daddy ball....undeserved daddy ball at that.

[Goslin]

14 minutes ago, Old Ape said:

I dont understand why you have to pay a guy 200 G's to take this job. Is there no one in this area that would take it for 150??

Codutti, Berneathy, Flynn, Gaston, Gotte, none of them are even considered or given a chance to be considered.

Honestly?  Part of its bragging rights about being the program that pays the most.  Also, they have to sweeten the pot because Coaches are wary of taking a job at BH and why wouldn’t they be?  Just look at Coach Abseck.  He’s stuck with a mortgage on a $700k home in BH now, he was planning on being there until retirement, then had to find out he was being fired from the coaches BH was calling for interviews, and all because he did what a Coach should do which is refuse a parent’s request for playing time for a player who hasn’t earned it.

 

[Goslin]

3 minutes ago, THS99 said:

If that number is true then that's just sad.  It's the ultimate in daddy ball....undeserved daddy ball at that.

It’s true, was reported in the Houston Chronicle last year.  That’s just the official number as well.  I know someone who lived by the Coach that Abseck replaced and that guy got a car as well as the salary plus other “perks”.  

[oldschool2]

7 minutes ago, Old Ape said:

I dont understand why you have to pay a guy 200 G's to take this job. Is there no one in this area that would take it for 150??

Codutti, Berneathy, Flynn, Gaston, Gotte, none of them are even considered or given a chance to be considered.

In the grand scheme of things, what's really the difference in 50 G's?  In a school district like BH where school budgets are in the multiple millions, 50K is a fraction of a fraction.  And if it's going to be the difference in enticing a proven successful name, then why not?  Especially knowing that BH could end up jumping in class and potentially having a bigger obstacle to overcome because of it.  Or.. the school could admit that BH might struggle in football and pinch pennies on 1 of many admin salaries.  But then when BH goes somewhere between 3-7 and 5-5 (possibly), the mob will just say that they should've spent money and gotten a "better coach".  Double edged sword.

It's already not going to help that there's a rumor circulating about the previous coach leaving partly because of issues with the superintendent's kid and playing time.  I have no idea if there's any truth to any of that.. even partially.  But perception is reality.  And the reality is seeming a lot like typical parent issues, exacerbated because of a school employee in a position of power that happens to be a parent.

Who in the world would want to jump into that situation?  Unless it was financially worth it to them.  

[OlDawg]

13 minutes ago, Old Ape said:

I dont understand why you have to pay a guy 200 G's to take this job. Is there no one in this area that would take it for 150??

Codutti, Berneathy, Flynn, Gaston, Gotte, none of them are even considered or given a chance to be considered.

LOL. I don't think Berneathy would be caught near this job. Talk about a non-fit. LP typically keeps their coaches. Only rare instances like TJ Mills & Tarr have been let go. Renfro left to take over his home school of Clear Springs. All others have retired from LP. Pretty secure job. 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

10 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

LOL. I don't think Berneathy would be caught near this job. Talk about a non-fit. LP typically keeps their coaches. Only rare instances like TJ Mills & Tarr have been let go. Renfro left to take over his home school of Clear Springs. All others have retired from LP. Pretty secure job. 

That's one thing I've been told about LP: they take care of their folks. 

[OlDawg]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

That's one thing I've been told about LP: they take care of their folks. 

Historically, they've been pretty good about it. Even the teacher's tenure average is well over the State average. Last I checked, tenure was over 13 years. Pay isn't bad either. They're well above average on that as well.

[THS99]

32 minutes ago, Goslin said:

It’s true, was reported in the Houston Chronicle last year.  That’s just the official number as well.  I know someone who lived by the Coach that Abseck replaced and that guy got a car as well as the salary plus other “perks”.  

I thought the Chronicle number for Asbeck was around 175-180.  I would think the current salary range being discussed would be a minimum of 200.

[Goslin]

16 minutes ago, THS99 said:

I thought the Chronicle number for Asbeck was around 175-180.  I would think the current salary range being discussed would be a minimum of 200.

$179,917 was the exact sum.  Highest-paid Coach in Houston and $25k over the #2.  Again, that’s just straight pay, not counting perks plus this was reported back in Dec ‘23 so don’t know if BH staff have had a COLA or raise or anything like that in the past year.

 

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[Separation Scientist]

On 1/14/2025 at 6:41 PM, Goslin said:

Lot of folks with locs on those Eastside teams really looking forward to playing Barbers Hill.  

I didn't know the eastside folks are so racist, and I make occasional NS and CEK games.

If thats really the truth, then THEY have bigger problems and anything BH has. Racism is ugly.  

 

[Old Ape]

Kids aint gonna stop coming to BH because any coach goes or stays. DAEP principal will take care of that. You think Baytown kids knew anything about Westerberg or Gage or Abseck before they got to BH? NOPE!!! All they know is BH has great schools and facilities and they win a whole lot more than Lee, Sterling, GCM.

Have they hired anyone yet??

Real question you should ask is why is any coach saying no to 200G's???????

[GeauxDawgs]

23 hours ago, Goslin said:

Honestly?  Part of its bragging rights about being the program that pays the most.  Also, they have to sweeten the pot because Coaches are wary of taking a job at BH and why wouldn’t they be?  Just look at Coach Abseck.  He’s stuck with a mortgage on a $700k home in BH now, he was planning on being there until retirement, then had to find out he was being fired from the coaches BH was calling for interviews, and all because he did what a Coach should do which is refuse a parent’s request for playing time for a player who hasn’t earned it.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. Stick to GCM and GCCISD. 

22 hours ago, Goslin said:

$179,917 was the exact sum.  Highest-paid Coach in Houston and $25k over the #2.  Again, that’s just straight pay, not counting perks plus this was reported back in Dec ‘23 so don’t know if BH staff have had a COLA or raise or anything like that in the past year.

 

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None of those other coaches were also AD's were they? You left that part out. 

[Goslin]

2 hours ago, Old Ape said:

Kids aint gonna stop coming to BH because any coach goes or stays. DAEP principal will take care of that. You think Baytown kids knew anything about Westerberg or Gage or Abseck before they got to BH? NOPE!!! All they know is BH has great schools and facilities and they win a whole lot more than Lee, Sterling, GCM.

Have they hired anyone yet??

Real question you should ask is why is any coach saying no to 200G's???????

Real interesting response.  There's been quite a few folks on this forum swearing up and down that Barber's Hill is 100% homegrown, and that Baytown kids don't go there to play.  I've shown them the numbers straight from GCCISD but they just refuse to admit it.  REL went 6-4 this year, BTW.  Guess their talent didn't want to cut their locs.  Coach Finn is 37-33 since he got there, they've won at least a few more than they've lost these last few years, so don't lump them in with perennial losers like RSS/GCM.

I wouldn't say for sure that players wouldn't follow Abseck, though.  I never said anything about anyone following Abseck to Baytown, he's not taking a 50% pay cut to coach GCM, that job wouldn't pay his mortgage.  If he were to take an assistant job in one of the programs in 23-6A or 24-6A though?  You might see a few folks make a move is all I'm saying

You're 100% correct that the real question is why BH hasn't already found anyone for the HFC position since they're so great and have so much money to throw around?  Why have they burned through 4 coaches in 12 years?  

[Goslin]

4 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

I didn't know the eastside folks are so racist, and I make occasional NS and CEK games.

If thats really the truth, then THEY have bigger problems and anything BH has. Racism is ugly.  

 

Damn, I sure struck a nerve!  Now who was it that fought all the way to the State Supreme Court over haircuts?  Have fun in 23-6A in '26!  I know your opponents will!

[Goslin]

1 hour ago, GeauxDawgs said:

You have no idea what you are talking about.

NO U