Barbers Hill is OPEN

[PN-G bamatex]

3 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

OK, Westlake and SLC are single most affluent areas in the state. PNG is not close to them and is lower than BH. The "dynamics" disparity did not impact Joseph and it will have nothing to do with the success of BH next coach. 

Who said the difference in dynamics is relegated entirely to wealth?

Look up how all those communities vote. Cedar Park is one of the bluest suburbs in Texas and has been for two decades. Westlake and PN-G are almost equally red. Southlake has traditionally been a red suburb, and is trending back that way the last cycle or two after a turning reddish-purple during the first Trump term.

You brought Westlake, PN-G, and Southlake into a conversation that was really about the differences between Cedar Park and Mont Belvieu. My best guess is that you were trying to deflect a point about how radically different the 620 corridor is from Eagle Drive, and turn this into some sort of referendum on PN-G, I’m guessing out of subconscious frustration over BH’s inability to successfully hire away our coach. But since “PNG is lower than BH” and nowhere near the glorious level of affluence the rich Austin and Dallas suburbs enjoy, why don’t you ask former Westlake HC Todd Dodge how interested he was in the PN-G job in 2022, how the conversation that led to his consulting contract at PN-G actually started, and why the Nederland job was on his radar two years later?

And while you’re at it, maybe take this one from the guy who’s lived in the 77651, the 78613, and the 78641, and who’s worked for three separate elected officials that represent the 76092 (and for that matter, got a new school authorized right down the road in Lewisville two years ago):

On a spectrum that includes the PN-G, BH, Westlake, Southlake, and Cedar Park/Northwest Hills communities, the first four are all way closer to each other in terms of culture, values, history, and tradition than any of them are to the Highway 183 Province of the People’s Republic of Austin.

[89Falcon]

36 minutes ago, PN-G bamatex said:

Who said the difference in dynamics is relegated entirely to wealth?

Look up how all those communities vote. Cedar Park is one of the bluest suburbs in Texas and has been for two decades. Westlake and PN-G are almost equally red. Southlake has traditionally been a red suburb, and is trending back that way the last cycle or two after a turning reddish-purple during the first Trump term.

You brought Westlake, PN-G, and Southlake into a conversation that was really about the differences between Cedar Park and Mont Belvieu. My best guess is that you were trying to deflect a point about how radically different the 620 corridor is from Eagle Drive, and turn this into some sort of referendum on PN-G, I’m guessing out of subconscious frustration over BH’s inability to successfully hire away our coach. But since “PNG is lower than BH” and nowhere near the glorious level of affluence the rich Austin and Dallas suburbs enjoy, why don’t you ask former Westlake HC Todd Dodge how interested he was in the PN-G job in 2022, how the conversation that led to his consulting contract at PN-G actually started, and why the Nederland job was on his radar two years later?

And while you’re at it, maybe take this one from the guy who’s lived in the 77651, the 78613, and the 78641, and who’s worked for three separate elected officials that represent the 76092 (and for that matter, got a new school authorized right down the road in Lewisville two years ago):

On a spectrum that includes the PN-G, BH, Westlake, Southlake, and Cedar Park/Northwest Hills communities, the first four are all way closer to each other in terms of culture, values, history, and tradition than any of them are to the Highway 183 Province of the People’s Republic of Austin.

“Dynamics” are not relevant. Only good coaching, leadership and management skills.

[PN-G bamatex]

4 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

“Dynamics” are not relevant. Only good coaching, leadership and management skills.

I'll agree with you that good coaching, leadership, and management skills are all necessities for a successful program, but do not underestimate the importance of school and community culture. Asbeck's departure from Cedar Park is not the only reason that program is not dominant like it was ten years ago.

[Matt Dillon]

4 hours ago, OlDawg said:

Worse than being jailed for failure to cooperate with law enforcement, or sending out highly derogatory tweets about other local school districts & towns?

Because, apparently, those are okay...

This….. Wonder how many other Bh employees would have been given a free pass if they had committed these acts or been arrested in a pretty publicized event 

[Separation Scientist]

Its pretty cool seeing BH being discussed with the likes of Lake Travis, Westlake, SLC, etc. but I don't agree with the comparisons. I don't understand the red/blue political angle of it, nor the landscape thing (of course Cen-Tex has a different landscape than SE TX). BH is not full of limosine liberals like the Austin area is. Mont Belvieu is full of blue collar, 12hr. shift working families. 

As much as I like Abseck, he and Cedar Park have little to do with BH's path forward at this point, so I don't see the point of CP comparisons, either.   

[Separation Scientist]

On 1/10/2025 at 2:16 PM, bullets13 said:

If true, they got A guy. I've heard of at least 4 different "their guys" turning down the job, and that's just what we know about. I'm also real curious about this hiring process. 

I think the standard is pretty high, so the candidates would be the kind that can pick and choose. This is not a job for just any random candidate. Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable a few would decline, since they are are already likely in a great place. Like I said earlier, I know any decline would be percieved as a jab at BH, of course. 

I don't think there is one perfect candidate. There are probably 50+ HS coaches in TX that could do an outstanding job at BH. 

Whoever it is, rest assured the choice will be immeadately and roundly critiqued.    

 

[Separation Scientist]

On 1/10/2025 at 2:40 PM, navydawg31 said:

I’m willing to bet not a Houston area coach… sheesh them coaches on that post on X was brutal in regards of BH 

They must read SETXSports, LOL. 

[Bigdog]

A lot of apples to pineapple comparisons on this thread...

[OlDawg]

17 hours ago, Separation Scientist said:

Its pretty cool seeing BH being discussed with the likes of Lake Travis, Westlake, SLC, etc. but I don't agree with the comparisons. I don't understand the red/blue political angle of it, nor the landscape thing (of course Cen-Tex has a different landscape than SE TX). BH is not full of limosine liberals like the Austin area is. Mont Belvieu is full of blue collar, 12hr. shift working families. 

As much as I like Abseck, he and Cedar Park have little to do with BH's path forward at this point, so I don't see the point of CP comparisons, either.   

I only mentioned the landscape/amenities difference because most HC/AD candidates are married, and their spouses play a major role similar to military families. A HC/AD is basically ‘on deployment’ for a large part of the year, and their spouse has to carry a big load.

If a spouse is used to having certain amenities/stores/activities close by with easy access, it may make a move—which is already difficult—even harder. So, it’s something to consider.

Mt. Belvieu is growing. But, it’s still kind of in the middle of not much comparatively. It does have some advantages being in Chambers County compared to Harris for sure.

For the record, I thought Abseck had y’all on the right track. Sorry it wound up as it has…