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[oldschool2]

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[HarryDoyle]

Is that an adult hitting that kid? Fights happen between players, not a good look but it does happen. The adult swinging on a kid should never happen though.

[workbootz]

55 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Is that an adult hitting that kid? Fights happen between players, not a good look but it does happen. The adult swinging on a kid should never happen though.

She's the mother of the kid in a headlock.  Dude came out the stands and put his hands on a kid.  There's a video where a fan from Burkeville threw a punch at the HD kids.  That's how it got started.

[5GallonBucket]

2 hours ago, workbootz said:

She's the mother of the kid in a headlock.  Dude came out the stands and put his hands on a kid.  There's a video where a fan from Burkeville threw a punch at the HD kids.  That's how it got started.

 

3 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

Is that an adult hitting that kid? Fights happen between players, not a good look but it does happen. The adult swinging on a kid should never happen though.

Can’t say I don’t blame the (mom)parent in that situation.  Kid getting choked out. 

As a man I would’ve handled it a lil different

[HarryDoyle]

14 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

 

Can’t say I don’t blame the (mom)parent in that situation.  Kid getting choked out. 

As a man I would’ve handled it a lil different

Grab the kid and pull him off I understand, but throwing punches at a kid is not the way to deescalate a situation.

[Drew Peacock]

Sadly, I am not surprised this happened between these two schools. Heard that something happened over at Burkeville earlier in the year as well. Any parent hitting a kid is a bad look. I understand that it was a scary situation and a whole lot of emotions were involved, but hitting a kid only adds fuel to the fire. 

[Box1]

22 hours ago, oldschool2 said:

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I'm sure there are decent people at both those schools, but classy and HD/Burkeville just don't mix, everyone knows it. Both schools need hard resets.

[oldschool2]

30 minutes ago, Box1 said:

I'm sure there are decent people at both those schools, but classy and HD/Burkeville just don't mix, everyone knows it. Both schools need hard resets.

No argument here.

[HarryDoyle]

1 hour ago, Box1 said:

I'm sure there are decent people at both those schools, but classy and HD/Burkeville just don't mix, everyone knows it. Both schools need hard resets.

They have needed hard resets for a while too, nothing new.

[5GallonBucket]

5 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

Grab the kid and pull him off I understand, but throwing punches at a kid is not the way to deescalate a situation.

I agree.  Just don’t see that momma having the strength to pull that kid off.  That was a big kid compared to her 

[forREALtho]

And add all the HD little dribblers, all the little kids were setting in that corner.  
 

Burkeville player was ejected 1st quarter and then came in stands behind the HD bench and started mouthing and then swinging on the bench players.   Then it all broke loose after that.   

[bullets13]

Both teams suspended from the playoffs by the UIL. Although that doesn’t effect Burkeville 

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[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, bullets13 said:

Both teams suspended from the playoffs by the UIL 

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Burkeville was not in the playoffs.

H-D is appealing decision. Meeting with State Executive Committee tomorrow.

[bullets13]

36 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Burkeville was not in the playoffs.

H-D is appealing decision. Meeting with State Executive Committee tomorrow.

Yeah, I edited it before I saw you quote it 

[AggiesAreWe]

I saw the entire Hudl film for this "short lived" game. It shows the entirety of the game and not just the small clips that were shared to the TV stations and out on social media. Looking at the film, it was Burkeville that instigated this brawl but H-D didn't handle it too well themselves. Both sides could have done better. I just think it's wrong to eliminate H-D from the playoffs when they played a game against a team that was not in playoffs. Kind of Burkeville had nothing to lose in this situation. Let H-D play the playoffs with whatever players they can put out there (whoever wasn't suspended and JV players). At least that decision doesn't effect other teams. By taking H-D out, this changes things for Spurger, Chester, Wells, Kennard and Groveton Centerville. All those games had already had their opponents, dates, times and venues set. Now everyone involved is scrambling to make the needed changes and hoping they can get venues that all involved can agree on. Just not fair to those teams. H-D will be appealing to Austin tomorrow. I highly doubt it gets over turned but I sure hope it does. Just think this was the wrong decision considering the situation.

Other than Hull-Daisetta losing out on this decision, but Spurger loses out as well. They go from being Div. II #1 and playing Kennard to Div. I #2 and playing #9 state ranked Wells.

Just think this was a bad decision for all involved.

[CardinalBacker]

Good call by the UIL… HD’s players, students, and fans don’t deserve a trip to the playoffs.  “But they started it” doesn’t get you a pass for your own terrible behavior. 
 

 

[forREALtho]

3 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

Good call by the UIL… HD’s players, students, and fans don’t deserve a trip to the playoffs.  “But they started it” doesn’t get you a pass for your own terrible behavior. 
 

 

Horrible call by the UIL. I agree with AggiesAreWe.  There were several players that didn’t throw a punch and wasn’t involved.    HD could have done better.  Having the kids in the corner for little dribblers def made it worse.  But few of the players and parents at HD need the book threw at them I agree.  But Burkeville receives 0 punishment.  None.  They had one coach to handle the JV and varsity.  And everything that occurred that wasn’t on the film. As in could not get the kids on bus.  Cop assisted him, kids threw punches at him.  Seems a lot of reset needs to happen in Burkeville. HD needs to do better.    But you’re right. They started doesn’t get you a pass.  But Burkeville not receiving any punishment from UIL isn’t fair either.   And there isn’t any appeal.   Decision is final. 

[CardinalBacker]

6 hours ago, forREALtho said:

Horrible call by the UIL. I agree with AggiesAreWe.  There were several players that didn’t throw a punch and wasn’t involved.    HD could have done better.  Having the kids in the corner for little dribblers def made it worse.  But few of the players and parents at HD need the book threw at them I agree.  But Burkeville receives 0 punishment.  None.  They had one coach to handle the JV and varsity.  And everything that occurred that wasn’t on the film. As in could not get the kids on bus.  Cop assisted him, kids threw punches at him.  Seems a lot of reset needs to happen in Burkeville. HD needs to do better.    But you’re right. They started doesn’t get you a pass.  But Burkeville not receiving any punishment from UIL isn’t fair either.   And there isn’t any appeal.   Decision is final. 

They got the same punishment that HD did.  No playoffs. 

It’s like this… two guys go to jail for a month. One of them was homeless and the other one a working man. The homeless guy gets a roof over his head, three meals, a day, and a mattress to sleep on.  Net win. 
The working man loses his job and his truck gets repossessed while he’s in the can…. But the punishment was the same. 
 

Fair is where you go to eat a corn dog and kiss a pig.  HD had more to lose and fought  anyways-that just dumb. 

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, CardinalBacker said:

They got the same punishment that HD did.  No playoffs. 

It’s like this… two guys go to jail for a month. One of them was homeless and the other one a working man. The homeless guy gets a roof over his head, three meals, a day, and a mattress to sleep on.  Net win. 
The working man loses his job and his truck gets repossessed while he’s in the can…. But the punishment was the same. 
 

Fair is where you go to eat a corn dog and kiss a pig.  HD had more to lose and fought  anyways-that just dumb. 

Burkeville was not going to the playoffs. They were 6th in the standings so it's not the same.

Hull-Daisetta lost out on going to the playoffs. Burkeville didn't lose out on anything.

[CardinalBacker]

10 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Burkeville was not going to the playoffs. They were 6th in the standings so it's not the same.

Hull-Daisetta lost out on going to the playoffs. Burkeville didn't lose out on anything.

Nope…. The punishment is the same.  Season is over for both. It just stings a little worse for HD. They played a stupid game and both went all in… HD just shoved more to the center of the table.  It’s too late to cry about the stakes when cards are all face up.  

[bullets13]

29 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Nope…. The punishment is the same.  Season is over for both. It just stings a little worse for HD. They played a stupid game and both went all in… HD just shoved more to the center of the table.  It’s too late to cry about the stakes when cards are all face up.  

Gonna have to disagree with you here. How can the punishment be the same when one’s season was already over and the other was supposed to keep playing. If they had 10 games left in the season and both were cancelled then your argument would have some merit. 

[CardinalBacker]

2 hours ago, bullets13 said:

Gonna have to disagree with you here. How can the punishment be the same when one’s season was already over and the other was supposed to keep playing. If they had 10 games left in the season and both were cancelled then your argument would have some merit. 

Ticket for speeding is $250. To a rich guy it’s a joke… he’ll drop that playing a round of golf today. To a mom whose lights are being shut off tomorrow, that $250 ticket is soul-crushing. 
 

They both got the same punishment, it just stings a little bit worse if you’re HD. 

 

And maybe next time the parents/fans/etc at HD will keep their dumb butts in the stands where they belong. 

[AggiesAreWe]

4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Ticket for speeding is $250. To a rich guy it’s a joke… he’ll drop that playing a round of golf today. To a mom whose lights are being shut off tomorrow, that $250 ticket is soul-crushing. 
 

They both got the same punishment, it just stings a little bit worse if you’re HD. 

 

And maybe next time the parents/fans/etc at HD will keep their dumb butts in the stands where they belong. 

They didn't get the same punishment. Burkeville was never going to the playoffs. There was no punishment given to them.

Both TV stations got it wrong. They both assumed that Burkeville was eligible for playoffs. That was incorrect.

Only playoff punishment given by SEC was to Hull-Daisetta. There was no playoff punishment available to give out to Burkeville.

Don't know how to make that any more clearer.

[1970]

14 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

They got the same punishment that HD did.  No playoffs. 

It’s like this… two guys go to jail for a month. One of them was homeless and the other one a working man. The homeless guy gets a roof over his head, three meals, a day, and a mattress to sleep on.  Net win. 
The working man loses his job and his truck gets repossessed while he’s in the can…. But the punishment was the same. 
 

Fair is where you go to eat a corn dog and kiss a pig.  HD had more to lose and fought  anyways-that just dumb. 

I think you're just being a troll, but anyway that's a poor analogy.  And it's a poor result from UIL, to withdraw a team from playoffs,  that isn't in the playoffs anyway. It's like punishing a 10 yr old by "taking away" his/her non-existent driver's license.  It's just an old fashioned cop out by the UIL, is what it is. 

[bullets13]

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

Ticket for speeding is $250. To a rich guy it’s a joke… he’ll drop that playing a round of golf today. To a mom whose lights are being shut off tomorrow, that $250 ticket is soul-crushing. 
 

They both got the same punishment, it just stings a little bit worse if you’re HD. 

 

And maybe next time the parents/fans/etc at HD will keep their dumb butts in the stands where they belong. 

Another bad analogy. A better one would be that the punishment for something was LOSING your car, except the poor person didn’t have one.