Silsbee vs Wheatley Predictions

[T-Lu]

19 hours ago, PrairieMan said:

I’ve seen both teams play in person, IMO I think Wheatley is overall better with a deeper lineup. 
 

Wheatley 84

Silsbee 73

thats your opinion but  I done watched 3 full games of Wheatley vs yates and btw, it's no way you think Wheatley is overall better when all they do is take bad 3"s all game, no inside game cause the big shoot 3's too  , try to run a press which they are just reaching and fouling , sanders can hoop Tho , all we got to do is get the long rebs cause its not a shot they don't like  ,  and we got to get back on defense cause made or miss they leaking out, we control the glass we win by 10 . we are a better defensive team than Wheatley , when we break that press its gone be all she wrote 

23 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Early line 

Silsbee -5

I'll take it every day of the week, twice on Sundays, Mike can you let me know if they confirm the venue and time, I'm at work until 7 and can't have my phone 

[AggiesAreWe]

7 minutes ago, T-Lu said:

thats your opinion but  I done watched 3 full games of Wheatley vs yates and btw, it's no way you think Wheatley is overall better when all they do is take bad 3"s all game, no inside game cause the big shoot 3's too  , try to run a press which they are just reaching and fouling , sanders can hoop Tho , all we got to do is get the long rebs cause its not a shot they don't like  ,  and we got to get back on defense cause made or miss they leaking out, we control the glass we win by 10 . we are a better defensive team than Wheatley , when we break that press its gone be all she wrote 

I'll take it every day of the week, twice on Sundays, Mike can you let me know if they confirm the venue and time, I'm at work until 7 and can't have my phone 

East Chambers, Friday 7:30pm

[PrairieMan]

3 hours ago, T-Lu said:

thats your opinion but  I done watched 3 full games of Wheatley vs yates and btw, it's no way you think Wheatley is overall better when all they do is take bad 3"s all game, no inside game cause the big shoot 3's too  , try to run a press which they are just reaching and fouling , sanders can hoop Tho , all we got to do is get the long rebs cause its not a shot they don't like  ,  and we got to get back on defense cause made or miss they leaking out, we control the glass we win by 10 . we are a better defensive team than Wheatley , when we break that press its gone be all she wrote 

I'll take it every day of the week, twice on Sundays, Mike can you let me know if they confirm the venue and time, I'm at work until 7 and can't have my phone 

I’m going to take your opinion with a grain of salt. Especially when I start seeing the words “we” when you talk about what Silsbee is going to do. I get the passion and I feel the same way when I speak of my team. But I’ve found that the more I base opinions from the heart and emotion the more I find myself in the wrong. From the outside looking in, I find myself questioning Rice’s ability every time I watch Silsbee. For a kid with that size, I always feel like he should be doing more. What did his stat line look like for district? Just wondering because I didn’t see one district game just followed the scores. 

[TexasBoy89]

34 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

I’m going to take your opinion with a grain of salt. Especially when I start seeing the words “we” when you talk about what Silsbee is going to do. I get the passion and I feel the same way when I speak of my team. But I’ve found that the more I base opinions from the heart and emotion the more I find myself in the wrong. From the outside looking in, I find myself questioning Rice’s ability every time I watch Silsbee. For a kid with that size, I always feel like he should be doing more. What did his stat line look like for district? Just wondering because I didn’t see one district game just followed the scores. 

Not 100% sure on his stats through district but I know he averaged a double double. Multiple games with 20+ rebounds but we will see how that translates to playoffs. First round he got in foul trouble early in the first quarter and sat through the rest of the whole first half. He made an immediate impact in the 3rd when he came back in and silsbee ran away with it.

[Tigers94]

Rice is coming off a serious knee injury. It's just now looking like he's jumping like he could last year. His biggest problem (along with our other big) is turning the ball over. They put the ball on the floor and get it slapped away a lot sometimes.

Houston Wheatley had better do a better job when pressed this year. They were pretty clumsy in the game last season. They also made a lot of timely 3s to keep the game close in the first half. If Silsbee can force them into a lot of turnovers and stay out of foul trouble, I like our odds.

 

[BADSANTA]

2 hours ago, PrairieMan said:

I’m going to take your opinion with a grain of salt. Especially when I start seeing the words “we” when you talk about what Silsbee is going to do. I get the passion and I feel the same way when I speak of my team. But I’ve found that the more I base opinions from the heart and emotion the more I find myself in the wrong. From the outside looking in, I find myself questioning Rice’s ability every time I watch Silsbee. For a kid with that size, I always feel like he should be doing more. What did his stat line look like for district? Just wondering because I didn’t see one district game just followed the scores. 

Rice is very solid player!! He had a game within 34 rebs and 20 plus coming. I agree he has to control turnovers and be more aggressive. I expect a big game on offense ans defense vs Wheatley. 

[BADSANTA]

15 minutes ago, Tigers94 said:

Rice is coming off a serious knee injury. It's just now looking like he's jumping like he could last year. His biggest problem (along with our other big) is turning the ball over. They put the ball on the floor and get it slapped away a lot sometimes.

Houston Wheatley had better do a better job when pressed this year. They were pretty clumsy in the game last season. They also made a lot of timely 3s to keep the game close in the first half. If Silsbee can force them into a lot of turnovers and stay out of foul trouble, I like our odds.

 

Yeah we have to cut down on turnovers and hot those boards. We will need solid games from Jones, Shoulders, Johnson from beyond the arc. Let's go get em Tigers!! 

[PrairieMan]

1 minute ago, BADSANTA said:

Rice is very solid player!! He had a game within 34 rebs and 20 plus coming. I agree he has to control turnovers and be more aggressive. I expect a big game on offense ans defense vs Wheatley. 

I know this is not a message board to question Silsbee because of the number of fans on here and I promise I’m not trying to entice an argument. I’m just enjoying the conversation. So I will continue to discuss playing devil’s advocate with no ill regard towards the Tigers only because I don’t know them like y’all do. 
 

These big games that he’s had, was there an opponent with even close to his size with any skill on the court? I know the kid from Wheatley can match him size and athleticism is why I’m asking. 
 

That being said I wasn’t overly impressed with him either. He was a nonfactor vs us. 

[JimThorpe]

One thing that stands out to me is Wheatley's 27 point win over Washington in their second district game.  A two games later Washington beat Yates by 21.  




 

[TexasBoy89]

18 minutes ago, JimThorpe said:

One thing that stands out to me is Wheatley's 27 point win over Washington in their second district game.  A two games later Washington beat Yates by 21.  




 

Washington was missing 3 starters in the loss to Wheatley.

[Tigers94]

18 minutes ago, JimThorpe said:

One thing that stands out to me is Wheatley's 27 point win over Washington in their second district game.  A two games later Washington beat Yates by 21.  




 

I've been told BTW was missing 3 starters for that game.

[BADSANTA]

9 hours ago, PrairieMan said:

I know this is not a message board to question Silsbee because of the number of fans on here and I promise I’m not trying to entice an argument. I’m just enjoying the conversation. So I will continue to discuss playing devil’s advocate with no ill regard towards the Tigers only because I don’t know them like y’all do. 
 

These big games that he’s had, was there an opponent with even close to his size with any skill on the court? I know the kid from Wheatley can match him size and athleticism is why I’m asking. 
 

That being said I wasn’t overly impressed with him either. He was a nonfactor vs us. 

Who do you want him to play? Kevin Garrett 😂😂😂😂. Geez. Its 4A basketball where the tickets are $5. Enjoy the moment. Who is us?

[BADSANTA]

8 hours ago, JimThorpe said:

One thing that stands out to me is Wheatley's 27 point win over Washington in their second district game.  A two games later Washington beat Yates by 21.  




 

Washington had their best 3 players suspended for that game. 

[BBfan061]

31 minutes ago, BADSANTA said:

Who do you want him to play? Kevin Garrett 😂😂😂😂. Geez. Its 4A basketball where the tickets are $5. Enjoy the moment. Who is us?

Tarkington 

[PrairieMan]

1 hour ago, BADSANTA said:

Who do you want him to play? Kevin Garrett 😂😂😂😂. Geez. Its 4A basketball where the tickets are $5. Enjoy the moment. Who is us?

That’s a bit extreme comparison isn’t it? I mean the kid is what 6’7” in 4a basketball. That’s kind of my point, how many nights does he even see another guy his size, my guess is rarely. Especially in that district. So bragging about double digit rebound avg begins to mean less and less. 

us for me means Tarkington

[AggiesAreWe]

7 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

That’s a bit extreme comparison isn’t it? I mean the kid is what 6’7” in 4a basketball. That’s kind of my point, how many nights does he even see another guy his size, my guess is rarely. Especially in that district. So bragging about double digit rebound avg begins to mean less and less. 

us for me means Tarkington

Question. Have you seen every team in Silsbee's district play this season?

Also, have you seen Silsbee's pre-district schedule? 

My point being that Rice has seen plenty of competition this season. Any player averaging 13 boards a game is good in my book. Regardless if he plays for Silsbee or what district he plays in.

BTW, Rice is '6"6

[T-Lu]

14 hours ago, PrairieMan said:

I’m going to take your opinion with a grain of salt. Especially when I start seeing the words “we” when you talk about what Silsbee is going to do. I get the passion and I feel the same way when I speak of my team. But I’ve found that the more I base opinions from the heart and emotion the more I find myself in the wrong. From the outside looking in, I find myself questioning Rice’s ability every time I watch Silsbee. For a kid with that size, I always feel like he should be doing more. What did his stat line look like for district? Just wondering because I didn’t see one district game just followed the scores. 

13 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

That’s a bit extreme comparison isn’t it? I mean the kid is what 6’7” in 4a basketball. That’s kind of my point, how many nights does he even see another guy his size, my guess is rarely. Especially in that district. So bragging about double digit rebound avg begins to mean less and less. 

us for me means Tarkington

Nall we can talk sports all day I don’t look at it as enticing .. like I stated that’s your opinion, I respect e ery man opinion, with that being said , the same kid you referring to foe Wheatley #20  touch the ball in the paint 2 times vs Tarkington , so he might have the length but he don’t have the size , Wheatley  gone keep you in the ball game , we just gotta hope we do t keep them in the ball game . By the way top of the morning yall 

[T-Lu]

8 minutes ago, T-Lu said:

Nall we can talk sports all day I don’t look at it as enticing .. like I stated that’s your opinion, I respect e ery man opinion, with that being said , the same kid you referring to foe Wheatley #20  touch the ball in the paint 2 times vs Tarkington , so he might have the length but he don’t have the size , Wheatley  gone keep you in the ball game , we just gotta hope we do t keep them in the ball game . By the way top of the morning yall 

You see how easy yall breaking that press at times ,  it’s because the press they run is terrible . Of course yalll had a lot of unforced turnovers because it wasn’t  because of no real pressure , 

[BADSANTA]

40 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

That’s a bit extreme comparison isn’t it? I mean the kid is what 6’7” in 4a basketball. That’s kind of my point, how many nights does he even see another guy his size, my guess is rarely. Especially in that district. So bragging about double digit rebound avg begins to mean less and less. 

us for me means Tarkington

Tarkington. Man get on somewhere. Tarkington lost to Silsbee by damn near a 100 a few years back in the 1st round of playoffs. Silsbee is better off just going to practice to get s better run that playing Tarkington. I thought you were going to say Untied or someone that mattered. 😂😂

[AggiesAreWe]

14 minutes ago, BADSANTA said:

Tarkington. Man get on somewhere. Tarkington lost to Silsbee by damn near a 100 a few years back in the 1st round of playoffs. Silsbee is better off just going to practice to get s better run that playing Tarkington. I thought you were going to say Untied or someone that mattered. 😂😂

Silsbee has never played Tarkington.

[BBfan061]

12 minutes ago, BADSANTA said:

Tarkington. Man get on somewhere. Tarkington lost to Silsbee by damn near a 100 a few years back in the 1st round of playoffs. Silsbee is better off just going to practice to get s better run that playing Tarkington. I thought you were going to say Untied or someone that mattered. 😂😂

So because he is from a town that traditionally isn’t good at basketball he can’t have an opinion on another teams playoff matchup? 🤣🤣

[PrairieMan]

41 minutes ago, BADSANTA said:

Tarkington. Man get on somewhere. Tarkington lost to Silsbee by damn near a 100 a few years back in the 1st round of playoffs. Silsbee is better off just going to practice to get s better run that playing Tarkington. I thought you were going to say Untied or someone that mattered. 😂😂

haha. Wow, so because I gave an opinion on a thread about about an upcoming game, one team, that I've watched play in person multiple times (Silsbee) and the other team (Wheatley) I've watched play Tarkington you decide to rip a school program? Great job buddy! Way to get emotional about something and lose focus on the conversation. 

I won't get petty with you, but Tarkington got moved up from 3A which they went 3 rounds deep last year and finished in 3rd place in their district this year as the smallest 4a program. They have a kid that avg 20+ ppg on the season. If you'd like to actually do a little homework and have a constructive conversation, I'm more than willing to discuss the ups and downs of Tarkington basketball. If you just want to fire off criticism without any knowledge because you can't control your emotions, then there will no longer be a need to respond to you. Have a good one!

[PrairieMan]

1 hour ago, T-Lu said:

Nall we can talk sports all day I don’t look at it as enticing .. like I stated that’s your opinion, I respect e ery man opinion, with that being said , the same kid you referring to foe Wheatley #20  touch the ball in the paint 2 times vs Tarkington , so he might have the length but he don’t have the size , Wheatley  gone keep you in the ball game , we just gotta hope we do t keep them in the ball game . By the way top of the morning yall 

100% agree with you. I found it odd he wasn't in the paint more on offense. When I came in during warmups he worked on post moves for 10 mins straight then not one time in the game did he post up vs a team where the tallest kid is 6'3 maybe 6'4. I did find he was decent presence in the paint defensively though. I just wonder will he keep Silsbee's big man at bay on the offensive side? They are certainly not looking at him to help offensively. 

[AggiesAreWe]

5 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

haha. Wow, so because I gave an opinion on a thread about about an upcoming game, one team, that I've watched play in person multiple times (Silsbee) and the other team (Wheatley) I've watched play Tarkington you decide to rip a school program? Great job buddy! Way to get emotional about something and lose focus on the conversation. 

I won't get petty with you, but Tarkington got moved up from 3A which they went 3 rounds deep last year and finished in 3rd place in their district this year as the smallest 4a program. They have a kid that avg 20+ ppg on the season. If you'd like to actually do a little homework and have a constructive conversation, I'm more than willing to discuss the ups and downs of Tarkington basketball. If you just want to fire off criticism without any knowledge because you can't control your emotions, then there will no longer be a need to respond to you. Have a good one!

I completely agree with most of your post.

But didn't you "fire off" on Rice without really having any real facts to go off on?

[PrairieMan]

1 hour ago, T-Lu said:

You see how easy yall breaking that press at times ,  it’s because the press they run is terrible . Of course yalll had a lot of unforced turnovers because it wasn’t  because of no real pressure , 

We broke it fairly easy when #21 was in the game. When he got into foul trouble, they stretched it out a bit. Again, couldn't agree more, same thing I said, too many unforced turnovers with lazy passes and bad court awareness at times.