Silsbee vs Wheatley Predictions

[JimThorpe]

11 hours ago, TexasBoy89 said:

Washington was missing 3 starters in the loss to Wheatley.

Okay.  That makes me feel better!  

[PrairieMan]

3 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I completely agree with most of your post.

But didn't you "fire off" on Rice without really having any real facts to go off on?

"Fire off"...... My exact statement was...."From the outside looking in, I find myself questioning Rice’s ability every time I watch Silsbee. For a kid with that size, I always feel like he should be doing more. What did his stat line look like for district? Just wondering because I didn’t see one district game just followed the scores." 

That's a bit of a stretch isn't it? I merely wanted to find out what the Silsbee faithful felt about his game. I stated that the games I've watched and from what I've seen on this message board I didn't find him to be as dominant as I'd thought he would be. But that's why I asked the question because I have a fairly small sample size. It was way more of a question than an attack. 

This dude just attacked a program with reference to a game that didn't even happen. Sounds quite a bit different to me. 

[JimThorpe]

5 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

We broke it fairly easy when #21 was in the game. When he got into foul trouble, they stretched it out a bit. Again, couldn't agree more, same thing I said, too many unforced turnovers with lazy passes and bad court awareness at times. 

 

And there was the 3rd quarter fade.  Against high energy teams the 3rd quarter and early 4th can be decisive.  
 

As far as height goes, Bridge City has a kid who’s the same height as Rice and just as agile but not quite as good.  And Vidor has one that’s 6-8.  He’s just a sophomore and a pretty decent player.  But he’s carrying too much weight and tires easily.  He has a future if he really wants it.  If he develops the others in 18 will have a tough time with him.

[AggiesAreWe]

7 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

"Fire off"...... My exact statement was...."From the outside looking in, I find myself questioning Rice’s ability every time I watch Silsbee. For a kid with that size, I always feel like he should be doing more. What did his stat line look like for district? Just wondering because I didn’t see one district game just followed the scores." 

That's a bit of a stretch isn't it? I merely wanted to find out what the Silsbee faithful felt about his game. I stated that the games I've watched and from what I've seen on this message board I didn't find him to be as dominant as I'd thought he would be. But that's why I asked the question because I have a fairly small sample size. It was way more of a question than an attack. 

This dude just attacked a program with reference to a game that didn't even happen. Sounds quite a bit different to me. 

You also assumed that there was no competition for Rice in district play.

I can list 4 teams that had as big or bigger post players than Rice in district.

I agree, Santa spouts off a lot on here without being accurate with his comments (something I thought everyone here knew). 

I gave you some of his stat line but stats don't always tell the story.

On a team like Silsbee with it's guard play, post play is not going to be the dominating factor like it is with other teams.

But I thought most folks knew this about Silsbee. I guess I was wrong.

[PrairieMan]

4 minutes ago, JimThorpe said:

 

And there was the 3rd quarter fade.  Against high energy teams the 3rd quarter and early 4th can be decisive.  
 

As far as height goes, Bridge City has a kid who’s the same height as Rice and just as agile but not quite as good.  And Vidor has one that’s 6-8.  He’s just a sophomore and a pretty decent player.  But he’s carrying too much weight and tires easily.  He has a future if he really wants it.  If he develops the others in 18 will have a tough time with him.

Absolutely!!! But that was when #21 sat out because of foul trouble.

[PrairieMan]

3 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

You also assumed that there was no competition for Rice in district play.

I can list 4 teams that had as big or bigger post players than Rice in district.

I agree, Santa spouts off a lot on here without being accurate with his comments (something I thought everyone here knew). 

I gave you some of his stat line but stats don't always tell the story.

On a team like Silsbee with it's guard play, post play is not going to be the dominating factor like it is with other teams.

But I thought most folks knew this about Silsbee. I guess I was wrong.

I didn't assume, I asked. I literally said I don't know the district other than Lumberton and I know they don't have a true big. 

Again I just wanted to know what the Silsbee faithful thought but I'm learning fast there are certain no no programs to question on here. 

[JimThorpe]

7 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

Absolutely!!! But that was when #21 sat out because of foul trouble.

And that.  
 

Bridge City had an 8 point lead on the Tigers at the half in their first meeting.  They started to drop in the third.  Silsbee caught up and went ahead.  But the Cardinals, aided by being at home, doubled back down and refused to go quietly into the night.  It was a 4 point game and the closest Silsbee came to losing a district game in years.

And then Vidor actually gained the lead in the third quarter last Tuesday before falling by 11.  
 

So it doesn’t have to happen.  The Bridge City /Yates game could go either way.

 

 

 

[AggiesAreWe]

16 minutes ago, PrairieMan said:

I didn't assume, I asked. I literally said I don't know the district other than Lumberton and I know they don't have a true big. 

Again I just wanted to know what the Silsbee faithful thought but I'm learning fast there are certain no no programs to question on here. 

You also made comments, not just questions.

I have no problem with folks "questioning" Silsbee teams. It comes with the territory of great programs.

I just try to provide answers to those questions. Particularly when a player is being singled out.

You stated that you thought Rice should be more dominant. I provided a rebuttal.

[BADSANTA]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Silsbee has never played Tarkington.

2015/16 or 2016/17 are you sure?

[BADSANTA]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Silsbee has never played Tarkington.

Your right! 

[PrairieMan]

18 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

You also made comments, not just questions.

I have no problem with folks "questioning" Silsbee teams. It comes with the territory of great programs.

I just try to provide answers to those questions. Particularly when a player is being singled out.

You stated that you thought Rice should be more dominant. I provided a rebuttal.

No worries. All the questions that need to be answered will be done Friday night. I will be there to watch. I couldn't care less who wins, I just like good basketball and I hope it comes down to the wire no matter who wins. I was in attendance a few years back when BU and Goose Creek played a triple overtime game there and it was one of the most exciting games I've ever been to. I'd love to see another one there. 

[BADSANTA]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

You also assumed that there was no competition for Rice in district play.

I can list 4 teams that had as big or bigger post players than Rice in district.

I agree, Santa spouts off a lot on here without being accurate with his comments (something I thought everyone here knew). 

I gave you some of his stat line but stats don't always tell the story.

On a team like Silsbee with it's guard play, post play is not going to be the dominating factor like it is with other teams.

But I thought most folks knew this about Silsbee. I guess I was wrong.

I've been more right than wrong. I dont think Tarkington would ever be a school Silsbee would consider playing. That would be like lining up Woodville or Huntington. I mean whats the point of laying a 60pt beat down on a team. That would be worst than playing some of the team in district. I do find it odd that a person would come on this board to attack a Silsbee player when your school is Tarkington. As far as I know, Tarkington has never been a powerhouse in sports. Maybe im wrong again. Tarkington poking the bear when the bear isn't on your schedule is wild. Silsbee did blow them out in football. What I do know is that Rice would hang 20 and 20 on them. A 25-10 record vs mostly losing record teams is hardly anything to be excited about. 

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, BADSANTA said:

I've been more right than wrong. I dont think Tarkington would ever be a school Silsbee would consider playing. That would be like lining up Woodville or Huntington. I mean whats the point of laying a 60pt beat down on a team. That would be worst than playing some of the team in district. I do find it odd that a person would come on this board to attack a Silsbee player when your school is Tarkington. As far as I know, Tarkington has never been a powerhouse in sports. Maybe im wrong again. Tarkington poking the bear when the bear isn't on your schedule is wild. Silsbee did blow them out in football. What I do know is that Rice would hang 20 and 20 on them. A 25-10 record vs mostly losing record teams is hardly anything to be excited about. 

It doesn't matter what team someone supports when it comes to making an opinion. It's completely irrelevant. 

Tarkington isn't poking the bear. 

Why do you think a member has to represent a team with his comments in order to be credible?

That's like you cannot make a comment about Bridge City football because you are a fan of a Silsbee team that hasn't won a state championship like BC has in that sport.

Ridiculous

[BADSANTA]

44 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

It doesn't matter what team someone supports when it comes to making an opinion. It's completely irrelevant. 

Tarkington isn't poking the bear. 

Why do you think a member has to represent a team with his comments in order to be credible?

That's like you cannot make a comment about Bridge City football because you are a fan of a Silsbee team that hasn't won a state championship like BC has in that sport.

Ridiculous

How is it ridiculous! You call a 17-18 year out on their board claiming he doesn't play up to his size. Your the "King" of this board. You got it bro. 

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, BADSANTA said:

How is it ridiculous! You call a 17-18 year out on their board claiming he doesn't play up to his size. Your the "King" of this board. You got it bro. 

It doesn't matter what team he/she supports when making those type comments. 

The team that one supports does not make their comments less or more credible.

That is what is ridiculous.

[BADSANTA]

Just now, AggiesAreWe said:

It doesn't matter what team he/she supports when making those type comments. 

The team that one supports does not make their comments less or more credible.

That is what is ridiculous.

Oh ok

[BADSANTA]

Go Tigers 

[PrairieMan]

On 2/18/2025 at 6:48 PM, PrairieMan said:

I’ve seen both teams play in person, IMO I think Wheatley is overall better with a deeper lineup. 
 

Wheatley 84

Silsbee 73

For those that have forgotten what I originally said before I got called out about how bad my opinion was by a guy that was using "we" and "us" when talking about Silsbee. Since he did so, I was seriously just wanting to know what the Silsbee faithful opinion on the Rice kid was. I wasn't personally attacking him. The games I've watched, I was really expecting more because of what I had read on here. I don't know him at all and certainly would never mean to personally attack him. I know how historic Silsbee basketball is and there's been a ton of good players come through. I personally enjoyed watching Harris and Miller play many games during the playoffs and state the last 4 years. Which means I've been watching Rice this entire time too. Overall I haven't found him to be as dominant in the games I watched as I was expecting him to be. Kid is big with good athleticism and I hope he has 30 and 30 on Friday night. I have a high school kid that plays and I wouldn't want someone to personally attack him either. But if somebody wants to come on to a Tarkington thread and doubt his impact to his team or a game, no problem, I'm ready to have that conversation as long as we can keep it civil and I honestly never thought I went too far. He's like every other kid, he has his ups and downs. Man making things this personal on a sports message board is CRAZY. Sometimes you got to take a step back and breathe before you go all cowboy keyboard on it. 

I guess I should have worded my inquiry better. 

For those that have watched both play, how do you think Rice will do against #20 from Wheatley. They both have good size and I wonder if you think their matchup could be the difference in the game? #20 had 7 points vs Tarkington when they played and whoever noted it was spot on. He did not play in the paint much on offense which shocked me. Defensively though he covered the paint well and certainly changed shots for kids trying to score in it. 

[Kountzer]

I usually watch 3 or 4 Silsbee basketball games a year, either live at one of those thanksgiving showcase games or on stream. Rice has come a long way. Same for Boulwen (i hope I spelled his last name right). It is a waste of time to me to discuss where they need to improve. They’re both Srs  & their time in a Silsbee uniform are numbered.

Bridge City won state in football? That was 55 or 56 years ago back in the days of Steve Wooster. But it is true, Silsbee has not accomplished that in football. Correction that was in 1966. So it was more like 59 years ago. (Some of us gotta come correct around here. 

[AggiesAreWe]

Rice will hold his own against the player from Wheatley.

The fact that Rice doesn't have to be dominant for Silsbee to be successful speaks volumes.

I honestly think Rice could have an average game and Silsbee would still win the game.

[BBfan061]

I think Jones goes off in this one and leads Silsbee to a W

[Who That]

I" know Mr. Doug Jones has seen both teams play and he's got Silsbee for the win..! And he will be sitting right in front at the table for this one. And I'm taken Silsbee by 7... And Rice has been playing great and will give it his all come Friday. But there are others on the Silsbee team I" would be more worried about..lol

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

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[BADSANTA]

I think Silsbee biggest problem has been rebounding and turnovers. I've watched  7-8 games this year and we miss alot of layups at point blank rang. If Rice and Boulwen can stay out of foul trouble, I really like our chances. Playing uptempo is playing right into what we like to which is run and gun. I think we see more Arline, Gaines, and maybe Cartwright with the pace this game will be played at. I saw Silsbee has another kid maybe off the JV who looked to be around 6-5. Maybe he can buy us a few minutes. Im sure of his name. 

[Kountzer]

I am not a Wheatley homer because I live in or near Houston. I am much more familiar with Wheatley than i am 3rd ward so the same thing goes for Yates. I am as surprised as anyone that they have teams in the playoffs. Given today’s political climate especially towards public schools, that is a miracle. Yates coach Wise is a respected coach. But the Wheatley coach, and I don’t know his name, he pulled a rabbit out of his hat.  Kudos to him for getting his team to where they are now.  

Don’t get it twisted.  Go Silsbee Tigers