Beaumont West Brook 40 Beaumont United 34/FINAL

[Mamba]

34 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:

 

Will they? Only time Green’s teams have had huge success is when he’s had major D1 talent. I don’t see any on the floor outside of maybe EJ

They have to replace 20ppg on a team that already has difficulty scoring . SMH!!!!!

[BMTSoulja1]

I had a weird feeling about this game when I seen WB close that last game in a 15-“ run.  In this game, WB went on another one of those runs when BU went up early. BU is so young and WB was just the better team all year.  And that offense they run is pretty much all they can do based on the personnel. My same gripe I’ve been having all year.  We’re small and they could never figure out how to consistently feed the post.  BU will be back next year. Watch.  But heck of a game, WB.  Also been saying all year that ‘G’ is that guy.  And he’s gonna show the state now.  Go win the ‘ship, boys.  I’m all in with them!  #BGOE!

[Mamba]

West Brook will play in El Campo

[BMTSoulja1]

I’m just now reading all these little comments.  Appears to be the usual ridiculousness.  🙄🙄

Basketball is very simple.  No need to complicate this situation.  Simple reason why BU has struggled to score all year.  Yes, this same glaring problem has existed all year.  And the reason has NOTHING to do with coach Green.  
 

[Mamba]

11 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

I’m just now reading all these little comments.  Appears to be the usual ridiculousness.  🙄🙄

Basketball is very simple.  No need to complicate this situation.  Simple reason why BU has struggled to score all year.  Yes, this same glaring problem has existed all year.  And the reason has NOTHING to do with coach Green.  
 

And we all know shiiii runs down hill . If I know as a head coach we STRUGGLE to score then it’s up to me and my staff to figure it out. Coach Green did all he can do getting them to this point but let’s not act like some of these kids are going to morph into what they’ve had in the past. Skill development is ESSENTIAL especially with younger players . And these kids can score but your coach has to trust his team. We can pick the fine hairs all we want bottom line replacing 20ppg is going to be hard . Better run some offense getting them pieces moving instead of wasting time off the clock , because you can’t behind , hold the ball and struggle to score that’s disastrous!!!!

[Coach_Izzy]

3 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

I’m just now reading all these little comments.  Appears to be the usual ridiculousness.  🙄🙄

Basketball is very simple.  No need to complicate this situation.  Simple reason why BU has struggled to score all year.  Yes, this same glaring problem has existed all year.  And the reason has NOTHING to do with coach Green.  
 

Soulja please stop it, I had to chance to work closely with Green during his time at NS & he’s NEVER been a big X&O’s guy. Even if you go watch him the past 4-5 years with Yates & company…he didn’t run anything spectacular, he just had the players. Which nothing is wrong with that, but when you don’t have those dudes you gotta be able to make adjustments & like I said earlier Green is a sure fire HOF, but I call a spade a spade.

Side note: being in the building and watching this game, I can’t help but wonder how much more successful BISD athletics would be if it only had one school. 

[BMTSoulja1]

3 hours ago, Coach_Izzy said:

Soulja please stop it, I had to chance to work closely with Green during his time at NS & he’s NEVER been a big X&O’s guy. Even if you go watch him the past 4-5 years with Yates & company…he didn’t run anything spectacular, he just had the players. Which nothing is wrong with that, but when you don’t have those dudes you gotta be able to make adjustments & like I said earlier Green is a sure fire HOF, but I call a spade a spade.

Side note: being in the building and watching this game, I can’t help but wonder how much more successful BISD athletics would be if it only had one school. 

So you mean to tell me on his previous successful stops where he’s won titles or got to the state tournament , he had those guys?  Think about that for a moment and I’ll revisit that one.  
 

Also, in order to WIN the title, you’ll need that guy.  See WB’s success?  Do you  think Coach Green win a title with Lil G on his roster?

Also, running plays makes you a good coach? Or being able to do things that’s conducive to your team?  You keep talking about x and o’s.  There’s things that the previous teams with Arceneaux’s, Yates, Dotson, ect could do within the flow of the game.  I’ve seen plays drawn up for those previous teams and seen them execute them consistently.  This 2024-25 BU team were raw, young, and VERY limited on what they could do.  Gregg Poppovich probably wouldn’t have had better success.  

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

So you mean to tell me on his previous successful stops where he’s won titles or got to the state tournament , he had those guys?  Think about that for a moment and I’ll revisit that one.  
 

Also, in order to WIN the title, you’ll need that guy.  See WB’s success?  Do you  think Coach Green win a title with Lil G on his roster?

Also, running plays makes you a good coach? Or being able to do things that’s conducive to your team?  You keep talking about x and o’s.  There’s things that the previous teams with Arceneaux’s, Yates, Dotson, ect could do within the flow of the game.  I’ve seen plays drawn up for those previous teams and seen them execute them consistently.  This 2024-25 BU team were raw, young, and VERY limited on what they could do.  Gregg Poppovich probably wouldn’t have had better success.  

I tend to agree.

You start three freshmen along with several other young, inexperienced players off the bench, you can't ask too much.

United doesn't shoot it very well except for the senior Green. They are limited offensively.

I think United got as far as they could go with what they had to work with.

[BMTSoulja1]

4 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I tend to agree.

You start three freshmen along with several other young, inexperienced players off the bench, you can't ask too much.

United doesn't shoot it very well except for the senior Green. They are limited offensively.

I think United got as far as they could go with what they had to work with.

That’s all I was saying.  

[ThaGod409]

Most of BU team were unexperienced at the varsity level , most of them this was their first year playing varsity! They’ll be okay ! 

[Coach_Izzy]

1 hour ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

So you mean to tell me on his previous successful stops where he’s won titles or got to the state tournament , he had those guys?  Think about that for a moment and I’ll revisit that one.  
 

Also, in order to WIN the title, you’ll need that guy.  See WB’s success?  Do you  think Coach Green win a title with Lil G on his roster?

Also, running plays makes you a good coach? Or being able to do things that’s conducive to your team?  You keep talking about x and o’s.  There’s things that the previous teams with Arceneaux’s, Yates, Dotson, ect could do within the flow of the game.  I’ve seen plays drawn up for those previous teams and seen them execute them consistently.  This 2024-25 BU team were raw, young, and VERY limited on what they could do.  Gregg Poppovich probably wouldn’t have had better success.  

Yes any team that Green has took to state or won state with had DUDES! He had two Division 1 players when he won state at NS  (Jerray Foster SMU & Kerwin Roach Texas) along with several other players that played college basketball. That NS team he won state with was loaded! Same when he was at Hightower. 

And to answer your question no I don’t think Green would win state if he had G. I’ve been on record saying that the two Beaumont teams are some of the least talented Beaumont has had in a while. High probability there wasn’t a single Division 1 basketball on the court last night.
 

& yes a good coach has to have the ability to run sets and have an overall offensive philosophy/foundation. I think Green is a damn good coach, however the offensive side of the ball isn’t his strong suit. I’ve been watching Green for years, his bread & butter is “One Call” which is 4 out with a high ball screen being set by the big. That is elementary stuff, no way you watched that game and thought United looked competent on the offensive end of the floor. A bunch of 1on1 iso ball, which has been a critic of mine for Green for years. Diff is he ain’t have a Wesley, Dotson etc to do it with this year.

Now some will tend to think he overachieved this year with this group but did he really? With the watered down split divisions? I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️

[BMTSoulja1]

1 hour ago, Coach_Izzy said:

Yes any team that Green has took to state or won state with had DUDES! He had two Division 1 players when he won state at NS  (Jerray Foster SMU & Kerwin Roach Texas) along with several other players that played college basketball. That NS team he won state with was loaded! Same when he was at Hightower. 

And to answer your question no I don’t think Green would win state if he had G. I’ve been on record saying that the two Beaumont teams are some of the least talented Beaumont has had in a while. High probability there wasn’t a single Division 1 basketball on the court last night.
 

& yes a good coach has to have the ability to run sets and have an overall offensive philosophy/foundation. I think Green is a damn good coach, however the offensive side of the ball isn’t his strong suit. I’ve been watching Green for years, his bread & butter is “One Call” which is 4 out with a high ball screen being set by the big. That is elementary stuff, no way you watched that game and thought United looked competent on the offensive end of the floor. A bunch of 1on1 iso ball, which has been a critic of mine for Green for years. Diff is he ain’t have a Wesley, Dotson etc to do it with this year.

Now some will tend to think he overachieved this year with this group but did he really? With the watered down split divisions? I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️

So prior to and after him leaving, have NS don’t anything remotely close to a state title?  Deep playoff run?  So just coincidentally, NS just popped up with this kind of D-1 talent and just so happen to win that year?  
 

He won a title at Hightower.  Have they won a title since Green?  Smh

you said you didn’t see a single d-1 player on the court.  This is why I told you that maybe you should stick to football.  Moore from BU already has a d-1 offer as a freshman.  And for you to think that G WONT be a d1 player before it’s all said and done is CRAAAAAZY to me!

watered down divisions?  I agree, but cream always rises to the top.  And had the divisions been the same, there’s a high probability that the same final results that you see now, WB making it to the state simi’s would happen.  

[Mamba]

47 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

So prior to and after him leaving, have NS don’t anything remotely close to a state title?  Deep playoff run?  So just coincidentally, NS just popped up with this kind of D-1 talent and just so happen to win that year?  
 

He won a title at Hightower.  Have they won a title since Green?  Smh

you said you didn’t see a single d-1 player on the court.  This is why I told you that maybe you should stick to football.  Moore from BU already has a d-1 offer as a freshman.  And for you to think that G WONT be a d1 player before it’s all said and done is CRAAAAAZY to me!

watered down divisions?  I agree, but cream always rises to the top.  And had the divisions been the same, there’s a high probability that the same final results that you see now, WB making it to the state simi’s would happen.  

I think we are all interested to see when he won a state championship at Hightower  , this is why we don’t take you serious because you don’t know what your talking about 

[BMTSoulja1]

Now that I think about it, there may have been more than 1 d-1 players on the floor.  

  I see WB’s next opponent is undefeated and I believe they’re nationally ranked?  I still have WB winning.  I’m pretty sure they don’t have a player like G on their team.

[Mamba]

12 hours ago, Mamba said:

West Brook will play in El Campo

Game site has changed 

[Coach_Izzy]

1 hour ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

So prior to and after him leaving, have NS don’t anything remotely close to a state title?  Deep playoff run?  So just coincidentally, NS just popped up with this kind of D-1 talent and just so happen to win that year?  
 

He won a title at Hightower.  Have they won a title since Green?  Smh

you said you didn’t see a single d-1 player on the court.  This is why I told you that maybe you should stick to football.  Moore from BU already has a d-1 offer as a freshman.  And for you to think that G WONT be a d1 player before it’s all said and done is CRAAAAAZY to me!

watered down divisions?  I agree, but cream always rises to the top.  And had the divisions been the same, there’s a high probability that the same final results that you see now, WB making it to the state simi’s would happen.  

Actually they went to state the first year after he left 🤣🤣 with the same kids he lost the previous year with in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Green left NS after being one of the highest paid coaches to take the BU job because he knew the talent pool was drying up. Lol which was a great move might I add.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t believe Green ever even went to state at Hightower! Lol Soulja so misinformed 

Let me let you in on a little secret Souja, having been involved in recruiting & coaching of players that were recruited I kinda know a little bit. Having a scholarship “offer” means nothing in 2025. There’s this thing called “commitable” & “non-commitable” offers. If he can’t call that school & commit to them then he’s not a D1 player. Also if you go read my previous post I said EJ is possibly the only D1 player on the floor. But it’s honestly too early to tell at this point. I like G kid can play, but he’s not a D1 basketball player IMO, I could be wrong though.

 

[BMTSoulja1]

12 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:

Actually they went to state the first year after he left 🤣🤣 with the same kids he lost the previous year with in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Green left NS after being one of the highest paid coaches to take the BU job because he knew the talent pool was drying up. Lol which was a great move might I add.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t believe Green ever even went to state at Hightower! Lol Soulja so misinformed 

Let me let you in on a little secret Souja, having been involved in recruiting & coaching of players that were recruited I kinda know a little bit. Having a scholarship “offer” means nothing in 2025. There’s this thing called “commitable” & “non-commitable” offers. If he can’t call that school & commit to them then he’s not a D1 player. Also if you go read my previous post I said EJ is possibly the only D1 player on the floor. But it’s honestly too early to tell at this point. I like G kid can play, but he’s not a D1 basketball player IMO, I could be wrong though.

 

I can admit when I’m wrong.  Unlike others.   I think he had some good success at Hightower…

[BMTSoulja1]

15 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said:

Actually they went to state the first year after he left 🤣🤣 with the same kids he lost the previous year with in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Green left NS after being one of the highest paid coaches to take the BU job because he knew the talent pool was drying up. Lol which was a great move might I add.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t believe Green ever even went to state at Hightower! Lol Soulja so misinformed 

Let me let you in on a little secret Souja, having been involved in recruiting & coaching of players that were recruited I kinda know a little bit. Having a scholarship “offer” means nothing in 2025. There’s this thing called “commitable” & “non-commitable” offers. If he can’t call that school & commit to them then he’s not a D1 player. Also if you go read my previous post I said EJ is possibly the only D1 player on the floor. But it’s honestly too early to tell at this point. I like G kid can play, but he’s not a D1 basketball player IMO, I could be wrong though.

 

Looks like you’re moving the needle.  Because you realize your you know what isn’t sticking….  I know what you originally said and I answered as such.  Just admit that you said the wrong thing and keep it pushing…. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[Coach_Izzy]

13 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said:

Looks like you’re moving the needle.  Because you realize your you know what isn’t sticking….  I know what you originally said and I answered as such.  Just admit that you said the wrong thing and keep it pushing…. 🤷🏾‍♂️

15 hours ago, Coach_Izzy said:

 

Will they? Only time Green’s teams have had huge success is when he’s had major D1 talent. I don’t see any on the floor outside of maybe EJ

Pretty easy to go look up what I said 

[AggiesAreWe]

Green took Hightower to state tournament. Lost in semifinals.

[BMTSoulja1]

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Green took Hightower to state tournament. Lost in semifinals.

I knew it was something like that.  

[Coach_Izzy]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Green took Hightower to state tournament. Lost in semifinals.

That’s right I believe he’s taken almost every school he’s coached to state. 

[Mamba]

5 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Green took Hightower to state tournament. Lost in semifinals.

We know that they lost to Flower mound   Marcus featuring Marcus smart and Phil forte 

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, Mamba said:

We know that they lost to Flower mound   Marcus featuring Marcus smart and Phil forte 

Exactly.

Not too many coaches that has ever taken 5 different teams to the state tourney. Probably could count on one hand in the history of Texas high school basketball.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

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Nice article