Stock Market Losses Under Trump

[Reagan]

[Separation Scientist]

19 hours ago, DCT said:

My retirement is tanking.  l am worried.  Make it make sense.

Did you whine and cry in 2022 when the market went down almost the whole year? 

Make that make sense. 

[UT alum]

On 3/11/2025 at 7:16 PM, baddog said:

What really gets me most is you fake liberals being concerned with what has to be the epitome of capitalism, an ideology which has made this country great for centuries. Everything y’all possess is the result of capitalism. Liberalism is a mindset that hates capitalists (billionaires) but overlook it if it puts money in your stinking pockets.

That’s a bunch of bunk. Liberals believe in capitalism. Just not unfettered capitalism. Unfettered capitalism is as bad as communism. It allows all the money to go to the top and everyone else has to scramble. We’re getting close, and Trump is going to push over the edge if left unchecked. He doesn’t care about one of you MAGAs other than your vote.

[UT alum]

46 minutes ago, Separation Scientist said:

Did you whine and cry in 2022 when the market went down almost the whole year? 

Make that make sense. 

It was down 19% for the year in 2022. Right now we’re working on 10% In the first quarter with a president saying he won’t rule out a recession. If you’re not worried, you’ve overdosed on the kool aid.

[UT alum]

49 minutes ago, Separation Scientist said:

Did you whine and cry in 2022 when the market went down almost the whole year? 

Make that make sense. 

And by the way, record highs were reached in 2024. Trump’s megalomania won’t get us back, but for the grace of God.

[baddog]

47 minutes ago, UT alum said:

That’s a bunch of bunk. Liberals believe in capitalism. Just not unfettered capitalism. Unfettered capitalism is as bad as communism. It allows all the money to go to the top and everyone else has to scramble. We’re getting close, and Trump is going to push over the edge if left unchecked. He doesn’t care about one of you MAGAs other than your vote.

A socialist is the opposite of a capitalist, so where is the bunk?

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

Liberals believe in capitalism. Just not unfettered capitalism. Unfettered capitalism is as bad as communism.

Not all liberals believe in capitalism, because "fettered capitalism" sounds a like like a dictatorship. 

 

 

26 minutes ago, baddog said:

Trump is going to push over the edge if left unchecked.

Trump can do nothing but EO's without congress. The presidents checks are The House, The Senate and the Supreme Court. EO's can be challenged just like we are seeing in some cases. We survived 4 years of Biden's name and no telling who was running the country and holding the signature stamp on everything Biden was supposed to sign.  If we survived that, we will survive trump trying to MAGA. 

Also......I'm far from rich.......but I'm not mad at anyone who makes money......and as far as I'm concerned, I don't care how much they make.......Elon's billions didn't take a dime from me,,,,,,,

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, UT alum said:

That’s a bunch of bunk. Liberals believe in capitalism. Just not unfettered capitalism. Unfettered capitalism is as bad as communism. It allows all the money to go to the top and everyone else has to scramble. We’re getting close, and Trump is going to push over the edge if left unchecked. He doesn’t care about one of you MAGAs other than your vote.

 

 

[baddog]

12 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Not all liberals believe in capitalism, because "fettered capitalism" sounds a like like a dictatorship. 

 

 

Trump can do nothing but EO's without congress. The presidents checks are The House, The Senate and the Supreme Court. EO's can be challenged just like we are seeing in some cases. We survived 4 years of Biden's name and no telling who was running the country and holding the signature stamp on everything Biden was supposed to sign.  If we survived that, we will survive trump trying to MAGA. 

Also......I'm far from rich.......but I'm not mad at anyone who makes money......and as far as I'm concerned, I don't care how much they make.......Elon's billions didn't take a dime from me,,,,,,,

Sorry Hippy, that “over the edge” quote is not mine. 
 

I agree with your rich people comment. 

[LumRaiderFan]

50 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Not all liberals believe in capitalism, because "fettered capitalism" sounds a like like a dictatorship. 

 

 

Trump can do nothing but EO's without congress. The presidents checks are The House, The Senate and the Supreme Court. EO's can be challenged just like we are seeing in some cases. We survived 4 years of Biden's name and no telling who was running the country and holding the signature stamp on everything Biden was supposed to sign.  If we survived that, we will survive trump trying to MAGA. 

Also......I'm far from rich.......but I'm not mad at anyone who makes money......and as far as I'm concerned, I don't care how much they make.......Elon's billions didn't take a dime from me,,,,,,,

Agree, doesn’t make sense to me, I guess some folks are unhappy with their station in life and rather than change it, choose to blame someone else.

democrats have mastered the art of fanning those flames.

[CardinalBacker]

11 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Agree, doesn’t make sense to me, I guess some folks are unhappy with their station in life and rather than change it, choose to blame someone else.

democrats have mastered the art of fanning those flames.

It’s income tax season, and when you complete your tax return you should pause and consider the fact that over half of our country pays nothing in income taxes. 
 

Then pause to appreciate the fact that Trump and Musk are in that 51%.  
 

Instead of firing park rangers and scientist we could  tax billionaires who exploit tax loopholes…. Y’all are too busy celebrating because the world’s richest man (who contributes nothing) is busy firing people.  

[LumRaiderFan]

3 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

It’s income tax season, and when you complete your tax return you should pause and consider the fact that over half of our country pays nothing in income taxes. 
 

Then pause to appreciate the fact that Trump and Musk are in that 51%.  
 

Instead of firing park rangers and scientist we could  tax billionaires who exploit tax loopholes…. Y’all are too busy celebrating because the world’s richest man (who contributes nothing) is busy firing people.  

Thank you for providing a great example of blaming others.  

News flash, Trump and Musk aren’t the only rich folks playing by the IRS rules, I would be doing the same thing, less money you can allow the wasteful federal government to confiscate, the better.

[thetragichippy]

4 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

It’s income tax season, and when you complete your tax return you should pause and consider the fact that over half of our country pays nothing in income taxes. 

And many with child tax credits get a refund 5 times what they pay in.....

[5GallonBucket]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Thank you for providing a great example of blaming others.  

News flash, Trump and Musk aren’t the only rich folks playing by the IRS rules, I would be doing the same thing, less money you can allow the wasteful federal government to confiscate, the better.

Dems use the same loopholes

[UT alum]

On 3/11/2025 at 7:32 PM, LumRaiderFan said:

Were you this concerned when the degenerate President you’re fawning over cut 400,000 jobs?

Please tell me how Biden is degenerate while Trump is not.

[UT alum]

On 3/11/2025 at 8:35 PM, 5GallonBucket said:

The markets aren’t the one and only factor for me.

No, but they are a leading indicator. What are the other economic factors for you?

[LumRaiderFan]

52 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Please tell me how Biden is degenerate while Trump is not.

Not talking about Biden, talking about Bill Clinton, surely that’s who you were referring to when talking about economics and Perot, couldn’t have been Biden.

[LumRaiderFan]

33 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

And many with child tax credits get a refund 5 times what they pay in.....

But rich folks not paying their fair share is the problem.

smh

[Eagle11]

7 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

It’s income tax season, and when you complete your tax return you should pause and consider the fact that over half of our country pays nothing in income taxes. 
 

Then pause to appreciate the fact that Trump and Musk are in that 51%.  
 

Instead of firing park rangers and scientist we could  tax billionaires who exploit tax loopholes…. Y’all are too busy celebrating because the world’s richest man (who contributes nothing) is busy firing people.  

CB,

You come around and most of the time just bash Trump but I ask.......

Regarding the tax issue, what are your thoughts on getting fair taxation. As I have said in a few other posts this issue has gone through many administrations with no attempt at scraping the tax code that gives the benefits to all that want to use them. Yet Trump and Musk are the only ones in your scope because of TDS.

The dems and repubs will not do anything about it because their big money donors want it. All rich folks are not conservatives.

Raising rates will do no good without closing loopholes. I am in favor of scraping the whole code and everyone pays a flat rate.

That would save everyone from using a tax acct. Just simple math will tell you how much to mail in.

[HuntersLaptop2028]

On 3/12/2025 at 8:57 PM, LumRaiderFan said:

I’m at retirement age, been through quite a few of these downturns, no need to panic, market always comes back.

 

Oh my god.

Ive been debating this whole time with people who claim to be soooo smart and wise, and have a 35 year head start, but weren’t smart enough to become millionaires during the greatest economic boom in worldwide history.

 

 

[Reagan]

Sen Kennedy from Louisiana said since 2019 America's population is up 2%.  Our spending is up 55%.   See any problem with this?

@Big girl  @UT alum  @HuntersLaptop2028  @Boyz N Da Hood  @CardinalBacker

 

[LumRaiderFan]

1 hour ago, HuntersLaptop2028 said:

Oh my god.

Ive been debating this whole time with people who claim to be soooo smart and wise, and have a 35 year head start, but weren’t smart enough to become millionaires during the greatest economic boom in worldwide history.

 

 

lol, never said what I retired with, you’re the only one that boasts about money, which always means you don’t have what you claim.

Folks that actually have money don’t brag to others.

And what you do isn’t debating, it’s trolling.

[Boyz N Da Hood]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Sen Kennedy from Louisiana said since 2019 America's population is up 2%.  Our spending is up 55%.   See any problem with this?

@Big girl  @UT alum  @HuntersLaptop2028  @Boyz N Da Hood  @CardinalBacker

 

Have you ever come up with your own thought? Do you have a life outside of politics and this forum? It's nice out here man, step out enjoy the weather or something

[HuntersLaptop2028]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

lol, never said what I retired with, you’re the only one that boasts about money, which always means you don’t have what you claim.

Folks that actually have money don’t brag to others.

And what you do isn’t debating, it’s trolling.

You and others here are the one always dumping on people poorer than you. Calling them freeloaders, trying to take away food stamps, social services, etc

I’m just returning the favor 

[HuntersLaptop2028]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

Sen Kennedy from Louisiana said since 2019 America's population is up 2%.  Our spending is up 55%.   See any problem with this?

@Big girl  @UT alum  @HuntersLaptop2028  @Boyz N Da Hood  @CardinalBacker

 

Can you provide the spending and deficit numbers by year?

thanks