Tariffs DO Work - But Liberals Have To Stop CRYING (Proof inside)

[HuntersLaptop2028]

 

[baddog]

19 minutes ago, HuntersLaptop2028 said:

 

You have been seething to post this all morning. It took WWII to end the great depression. Nothing else had an effect. Roosevelt’s New Deal had very little effect. The tariffs didn’t cause the depression, they just couldn’t save it. You should talk to anyone who survived this terrible ordeal. You might even learn something real, not just headlines. Of course, you would probably thumb your nose at them since you disrespect the elderly so much.

[Big girl]

On 4/8/2025 at 11:49 AM, baddog said:

You have been seething to post this all morning. It took WWII to end the great depression. Nothing else had an effect. Roosevelt’s New Deal had very little effect. The tariffs didn’t cause the depression, they just couldn’t save it. You should talk to anyone who survived this terrible ordeal. You might even learn something real, not just headlines. Of course, you would probably thumb your nose at them since you disrespect the elderly so much.

Yeah right. Economists said that  they were one of the reasons that deepened the Great Depression.. Does this sound familiar

• Purpose:

  The act was designed to protect American farmers and manufacturers by making imported goods more expensive, thus encouraging consumers to buy domestically produced products.
• Impact:

  The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act raised tariffs on over 20,000 imported goods, significantly increasing the average tariff rate.
• Retaliation:

  Other countries retaliated with their own tariffs on American goods, leading to a decline in U.S. exports and a collapse of international trade.
• Consequences:

  The act is widely considered to have deepened the Great Depression by making it harder for American businesses to sell goods abroad and contributing to a global economic downturn.
• Criticism:

  Many economists and historians criticize the act as a policy misstep and a cautionary example of protectionism.
• Later Developments:

  The act was eventually followed by the Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act of 1934, which sought to promote more liberal trade agreements. 

[UT alum]

On 4/8/2025 at 11:49 AM, baddog said:

You have been seething to post this all morning. It took WWII to end the great depression. Nothing else had an effect. Roosevelt’s New Deal had very little effect. The tariffs didn’t cause the depression, they just couldn’t save it. You should talk to anyone who survived this terrible ordeal. You might even learn something real, not just headlines. Of course, you would probably thumb your nose at them since you disrespect the elderly so much.

Anyone old enough to really remember the conditions are dead. Someone born in 1930 will turn 95 this year. Then you have to dis the guy about his perception of old people. Classy, dude.

[baddog]

34 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Anyone old enough to really remember the conditions are dead. Someone born in 1930 will turn 95 this year. Then you have to dis the guy about his perception of old people. Classy, dude.

Thanks for the math lesson. I should have said talked to someone who survived this. You don’t know anyone that old? People have to be that old to deserve the respect for their elders? I’m one generation from pit toilets. Forget toilet paper. My mom made some of their clothing from flour sacks. Ice trucks delivering ice. My grandfather had a job. It was much worse than I described for the country as a whole…..the dust bowl a major contributing factor. People like to post anything against republicans policies that didn’t work just for s gotcha moment. How childish. It didn’t work, but didn’t cause the depression. That’s all I said.

I am in the “elder” classification and have been poked fun at for being so on this board. Just think, without any elderly, none of you would exist. Something my parents taught me young in life….respect your elders. So nice try at calling me no class. It’s expected.

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[CardinalBacker]

3 hours ago, baddog said:

Thanks for the math lesson. I should have said talked to someone who survived this. You don’t know anyone that old? People have to be that old to deserve the respect for their elders? I’m one generation from pit toilets. Forget toilet paper. My mom made some of their clothing from flour sacks. Ice trucks delivering ice. My grandfather had a job. It was much worse than I described for the country as a whole…..the dust bowl a major contributing factor. People like to post anything against republicans policies that didn’t work just for s gotcha moment. How childish. It didn’t work, but didn’t cause the depression. That’s all I said.

I am in the “elder” classification and have been poked fun at for being so on this board. Just think, without any elderly, none of you would exist. Something my parents taught me young in life….respect your elders. So nice try at calling me no class. It’s expected.

We were so poor my mama cut the pockets out of my pants on Christmas Eve so I’d have something to play with on Christmas morning. 

[baddog]

18 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

We were so poor my mama cut the pockets out of my pants on Christmas Eve so I’d have something to play with on Christmas morning. 

Why doesn’t that surprise me?

[LumRaiderFan]

26 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

We were so poor my mama cut the pockets out of my pants on Christmas Eve so I’d have something to play with on Christmas morning. 

Bless your heart, just remember, it’s not important how small the gift, it’s the thought that counts.

[baddog]

I used to ask an old man I worked with what some things were like during the depression. I knew there were soup lines and I jokingly asked him if he ate possum during that time. He said s$&t, it would have been nice to have a possum to eat. There were no squirrels, rabbits, or possums because people had to kill what they ate if they wanted meat. I’m sure the deer population took a big hit as well, but I can’t speak to that.

To compare the Great Depression and a failed republican bill to add tariffs to Trump’s tariffs of today isn’t even comparable. 

[5GallonBucket]

5 hours ago, UT alum said:

Anyone old enough to really remember the conditions are dead. Someone born in 1930 will turn 95 this year. Then you have to dis the guy about his perception of old people. Classy, dude.

One of those people is my grandfather and he s still alive and lives with me.  Tells me all about

[UT alum]

11 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

One of those people is my grandfather and he s still alive and lives with me.  Tells me all about

That’s wonderful. I’m happy for both of you. How old is he?

[CardinalBacker]

26 minutes ago, UT alum said:

That’s wonderful. I’m happy for both of you. How old is he?

“124.”

My grandparents lived through it and had stories. Even in their old age they would save two peas and call it “leftovers.”

 

One point that stuck with me was my grandfather said that people would stop by the house and knock on the door, hat in hand, and ask for permission to go out into your field/garden and see if they could find anything that had been left behind-also that men would offer to work in exchange for food. But if it happened today (the 1980s), people would just kill you and take what they wanted. Then think about how far we’ve declined in terms of decency and work ethic since the ‘80s. It’s scary. 

[5GallonBucket]

47 minutes ago, UT alum said:

That’s wonderful. I’m happy for both of you. How old is he?

94…..and still washing his paper plates

yall forget the “LIFE lesson” that came from it.

And the type of people it produced.  

[thetragichippy]

4 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

yall forget the “LIFE lesson” that came from it.

My father was raised on a house boat and his father trapped and shrimped for a living in Louisiana. HE was born in 1930. He drove an ice truck and delivered ice to homes that had "ice boxes" - He learned to work on motors watching his Dad, and at 16 he was working in an outboard motor shop rebuilding outboards. He believed in zero waste - when he passed in 2020, I had to clean out his garage. Every thing I picked up was a part of my childhood. He built me a mustang in the 80's and he still had parts to it. He took off the headlights and blinkers on an old Yamaha motorcycle he gave me at 6 yo (that would be in 1971) and I found them on a shelf in a box.....and I could hear him tell me, if I ever build me a motorcycle, I could use those......

While I didn't absorb all his traits, I absorbed a bunch....lol

[OlDawg]

18 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

My father was raised on a house boat and his father trapped and shrimped for a living in Louisiana. HE was born in 1930. He drove an ice truck and delivered ice to homes that had "ice boxes" - He learned to work on motors watching his Dad, and at 16 he was working in an outboard motor shop rebuilding outboards. He believed in zero waste - when he passed in 2020, I had to clean out his garage. Every thing I picked up was a part of my childhood. He built me a mustang in the 80's and he still had parts to it. He took off the headlights and blinkers on an old Yamaha motorcycle he gave me at 6 yo (that would be in 1971) and I found them on a shelf in a box.....and I could hear him tell me, if I ever build me a motorcycle, I could use those......

While I didn't absorb all his traits, I absorbed a bunch....lol

I was raised on the farm (Dalhart, TX) in the early 60's. Dad just went to his next great adventure in 2023 at 87. As a leased family farm of 600 acres of maize & onions, dad, mom & my brother worked our butts off from sun up to sun down with school in between. I was driving a combine and helping with irrigation piping at 7. We would trade future crops for groceries & other needs at the COOP, and the big trip/adventure was to the S&H Green Stamp store. Trade in those stamps!

Dad learned to fly crop dusting, taught me, & I learned how to drive just about anything there is to drive & work on them early. Nowadays, I'd have to be a plumber with an IT degree to work on my truck. But, I can still work on my motorcycle at least. Although, sometimes my back doesn't always cooperate. 😀

[thetragichippy]

25 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Dad learned to fly crop dusting, taught me,

Tell me your Dad didn't self teach himself how to fly a plane.....😃

If he did, that is AMAZING😎

[thetragichippy]

26 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

I'd have to be a plumber with an IT degree to work on my truck.

I'm barely keeping up with the technology of these new engines. Youtube has been a tremendous help

[5GallonBucket]

30 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

My father was raised on a house boat and his father trapped and shrimped for a living in Louisiana. HE was born in 1930. He drove an ice truck and delivered ice to homes that had "ice boxes" - He learned to work on motors watching his Dad, and at 16 he was working in an outboard motor shop rebuilding outboards. He believed in zero waste - when he passed in 2020, I had to clean out his garage. Every thing I picked up was a part of my childhood. He built me a mustang in the 80's and he still had parts to it. He took off the headlights and blinkers on an old Yamaha motorcycle he gave me at 6 yo (that would be in 1971) and I found them on a shelf in a box.....and I could hear him tell me, if I ever build me a motorcycle, I could use those......

While I didn't absorb all his traits, I absorbed a bunch....lol

There’s not enough time for me to write everything down that I have learned from my grandfather.  His life in a very small nutshell….Grew up with no father….started helping out with what jobs an 8 year could do and then by 11 he was working as much as he could. Put himself thru Lamar…when on to become one of the top guys for gulf oil. Went over to Korea and oversaw from “ground up” building of a refinery.  Earned a black belt while time spent there. Retired from gulf when chevron took over…then later went back to work for chevron for a short time.  Master carpenter as well, but could do it all from plumbing and electrical. Him and my Dad built the two story house I grew up in with their own two hands as well as a two story barn. 
He learned to depend on himself and his God giving ability no matter the circumstances from an early age….the silent generation was produced by the greatest generation and to me there is not much difference.  
My great grandfather on my dad s side was in WW1. Lived to be 94…him and my great grandmother got married at 15 and 16 and went on to have 14 kids. We went to there house a many Sundays  growing up and were able to listen to his life stories.  
i didn’t live thru the Great Depression obviously but I was able to see the people it produced these people were in and around my life quite often not just holidays like some people.  We took the time to sit still and listen to what they had to say and learn from them.  
 

there a a very small percentage of those people left and even a smaller % of those type of people produced in this day in age.

like you said I absorbed as much as I could….most of it stuck and some didn’t.

[OlDawg]

25 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Tell me your Dad didn't self teach himself how to fly a plane.....😃

If he did, that is AMAZING😎

Yes & no. Our neighbors helped teach him as we all shared the lease of the plane when dusting was needed. Old Piper Cub retrofit with dusting equipment. Not that difficult. Would only go about 60 & there isn’t much to run into in Dalhart. LOL

Later, he flew helos for Uncle S, and became a flight instructor. Taught private flight lessons for decades here in La Porte. Started as a hobby. Became a second job.

[thetragichippy]

55 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Retired from gulf when chevron took over…

My Dad was an Instrument Mechanic and retired from Gulf when Chevron took over. I believe the advanced them a years pay on top of their retirement package. I'm sure they knew each other, he worked on 1544 Ethylene unit 

[5GallonBucket]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

My Dad was an Instrument Mechanic and retired from Gulf when Chevron took over. I believe the advanced them a years pay on top of their retirement package. I'm sure they knew each other, he worked on 1544 Ethylene unit 

I tried to message you but said you don’t receive messages

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said:

I tried to message you but said you don’t receive messages

Lemme see

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said:

I tried to message you but said you don’t receive messages

When I went to send you a message it said my messages were full…so I deleted them, then it would let me send you an email, but when I sent you one, it said you were not receiving emails…try again, you may need to delete some old messages

[5GallonBucket]

31 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

When I went to send you a message it said my messages were full…so I deleted them, then it would let me send you an email, but when I sent you one, it said you were not receiving emails…try again, you may need to delete some old messages

Yep. Had to delete