Just A Reminder How/Who Democrats Are!

[Reagan]

 

 

[UT alum]

48 minutes ago, Reagan said:

 

 

 

51 minutes ago, Reagan said:

 

 

Ummmmm….how many Republicans on the Supreme Court? 

[baddog]

21 minutes ago, UT alum said:

 

Ummmmm….how many Republicans on the Supreme Court? 

Typical lib answer.

This is the hidden content, please

• Sign In
• or
• Sign Up

[LumRaiderFan]

25 minutes ago, UT alum said:

 

Ummmmm….how many Republicans on the Supreme Court? 

Not enough.

[UT alum]

7 minutes ago, baddog said:

Typical lib answer.

This is the hidden content, please

• Sign In
• or
• Sign Up

Typical MAGA answer. A 2-1 majority still not enough. Trump is your god.

[UT alum]

5 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Not enough.

Enough to say what the Weasel did was illegal.

[baddog]

38 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Typical MAGA answer. A 2-1 majority still not enough. Trump is your god.

I see nothing about the SC in the thread’s first post. That was your deflection. Did you even read my article? Typical. Why do you say MAGA like it’s a bad thing. Who doesn’t want to make America great? Oh yeah, communist liberals who care more about an ms-13 gang member than a cancer surviving child.

[Reagan]

 

I wonder if Van Hollen sent this MS-13 thug a Happy Easter card?

[Reagan]

 

They do love them some gangstas!  

[Reagan]

[OlDawg]

Informative read and why I say Trump Administration hasn’t violated SCOTUS—yet.

This is the hidden content, please

• Sign In
• or
• Sign Up

[thetragichippy]

I think EVERYONE should get due process..........

BUT

It is difficult for me to think someone who on purpose avoided laws and due process to come into this country illegally, should be awarded due process to remove him. 

He is a citizen of El Salvador and is home where he should stay.

[OlDawg]

16 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

I think EVERYONE should get due process..........

BUT

It is difficult for me to think someone who on purpose avoided laws and due process to come into this country illegally, should be awarded due process to remove him. 

He is a citizen of El Salvador and is home where he should stay.

I was struck by the fact he was afraid to go back to his home country because a ‘rival gang’ would harm him/family. If he’s not in a gang, what rival? Apparently, his family is still there and okay…

That’s just me though, and it doesn’t negate his limited habeus corpus as a person here without true legal status. Of course, Immigration judges are part of the Executive Branch (for those that don’t know). Not the Judicial Branch. So, there’s a conflict with a District judge being involved in the first place in my mind.

I thought the article was good because it just layed out the confusing facts. Never heard of the author before. But, read up on him. Young guy. Thought he did a pretty good job.

[thetragichippy]

25 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

I thought the article was good because it just layed out the confusing facts. Never heard of the author before. But, read up on him. Young guy. Thought he did a pretty good job.

Very good article. 

[SmashMouth]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

I think EVERYONE should get due process..........

BUT

It is difficult for me to think someone who on purpose avoided laws and due process to come into this country illegally, should be awarded due process to remove him. 

He is a citizen of El Salvador and is home where he should stay.

Then you don't think everyone should get due process. I think we got it wrong on this one... Prove his MS-13 gang membership and THEN boot his a$$ out based on the terrorism laws. We can't pick how to apply the rule of law and due process based on thoughts & feelings.

[thetragichippy]

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

Then you don't think everyone should get due process. I think we got it wrong on this one... Prove his MS-13 gang membership and THEN boot his a$$ out based on the terrorism laws. We can't pick how to apply the rule of law and due process based on thoughts & feelings.

Tell that to Biden who created this problem.  In this case, didn't he already have deportation orders? 

[baddog]

I think the laws of due process have worked well all the way up to Biden. Our forefathers could not have envisioned the treasonous cowards responsible for an invasion of this magnitude.

[SmashMouth]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

Tell that to Biden who created this problem.  In this case, didn't he already have deportation orders? 

Look, I hope he rots in hell... after he gets due process. It's the cornerstone of our entire legal system. 

1. There was an existing court order that said he couldn't be deported back to his home country - litigate the order and rescind the order THEN deport him.

2. He was claimed to be a member of MS-13 which has been deemed to be a terrorist organization by the US government - prove it and send him wherever the hell you want - AFTER due process

I don't want to live in a world where we pick and choose parts of the constitution to follow out of convenience. If he is truly worthy of being deported, which he probably is, then we should take the time to litigate it the right way...

[baddog]

17 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Look, I hope he rots in hell... after he gets due process. It's the cornerstone of our entire legal system. 

1. There was an existing court order that said he couldn't be deported back to his home country - litigate the order and rescind the order THEN deport him.

2. He was claimed to be a member of MS-13 which has been deemed to be a terrorist organization by the US government - prove it and send him wherever the hell you want - AFTER due process

I don't want to live in a world where we pick and choose parts of the constitution to follow out of convenience. If he is truly worthy of being deported, which he probably is, then we should take the time to litigate it the right way...

I agree with your insistence on following the constitution. Does anyone realize how long it would take for 20+ million illegals to have their day in court? To me, that is the problem. Why the liberals focus on this one individual is beyond me. How many other illegals have been deported without this type of response? I believe in law and order and following the constitution, but these people invaded our country by the thousands, so the law should be applied the same.

[SmashMouth]

28 minutes ago, baddog said:

I agree with your insistence on following the constitution. Does anyone realize how long it would take for 20+ million illegals to have their day in court? To me, that is the problem. Why the liberals focus on this one individual is beyond me. How many other illegals have been deported without this type of response? I believe in law and order and following the constitution, but these people invaded our country by the thousands, so the law should be applied the same.

Agreed. There has to be a better way. 

[OlDawg]

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

Look, I hope he rots in hell... after he gets due process. It's the cornerstone of our entire legal system. 

1. There was an existing court order that said he couldn't be deported back to his home country - litigate the order and rescind the order THEN deport him.

2. He was claimed to be a member of MS-13 which has been deemed to be a terrorist organization by the US government - prove it and send him wherever the hell you want - AFTER due process

I don't want to live in a world where we pick and choose parts of the constitution to follow out of convenience. If he is truly worthy of being deported, which he probably is, then we should take the time to litigate it the right way...

Agree with much. But, he’s already had the due process afforded to an illegal migrant, and he admitted he should be deported. This was established in 2019. A deportation order was given. This was BEFORE the order that he couldn’t be sent back to El Salvador. If he’d been returned to his country right away, there wouldn’t be an issue. Also, he was sent to El Salvador under Title 8–not as a terrorist or gang member. Normal procedure since the 1940’s. Why the Administration keeps saying otherwise and confusing the issue is probably more of a smear campaign than anything.

My gut guess is, he never thought he’d actually be caught (since he’d been here 8 years before his first encounter with Immigration), and never thought he’d actually be deported (after the order to do so 6 years earlier).

This seems to be a total government cluster****. Typical.

I still think SCOTUS will have to be very careful with any ruling as they have no real authority over the Immigration process. (They definitely have no say over foreign policy.) It’s explicitly granted to the Legislative Branch with execution orders granted to POTUS. It has its own judges, etc. Appeals were already turned down through the Immigration judges, BIA, and the AG. Only then did it go to a Federal District Court.

SCOTUS getting involved will open the door to every immigration case wanting to go through the federal court system. This is an unworkable situation, and doesn’t follow immigration law as it currently stands.

While illegal immigrants have habeus corpus, they’re limited as are anyone’s who is not in the U.S. legally. 

Ironic that it was the first Trump Administration that didn’t deport him the first time.

Also ironic that those screaming ‘against the Constitution!’ now, had nothing to say when the Constitution and Federal Law was ignored to let them in.