baddog Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 23 minutes ago, UT alum said: You nor anyone else can reliably make that claim about our Forefathers. Their concept of immigration was a world apart from today. Read some history. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Stop acting like you’re the only one who knows anything. What I said rings true. They could never envision Biden’s invasion of 20 million migrants. They didn’t have drug smugglers, paid human traffickers, and violent criminals coming across the borders (which were much smaller then). Times were totally different then. Even though they had open borders and encouraged immigration, they were concerned about the non-contributing immigrants being worthy of becoming Americans. The immigrants back then weren’t blood suckers looking for a handout and toting flags of the country from which they seek asylum. You’re the one who needs to read and use common sense. Here’s an excerpt of Washington’s and Madison’s opinions: RELATED: The Trouble with the ‘Nation of Immigrants’ Argument No, not because “diversity” is our greatest value. No, not because Big Business needed cheap labor. And no, Madison asserted, “Not merely to swell the catalogue of people. No, sir, it is to increase the wealth and strength of the community; and those who acquire the rights of citizenship, without adding to the strength or wealth of the community are not the people we are in want of.” Madison argued plainly that America should welcome the immigrant who could assimilate, but exclude the immigrant who could not readily “incorporate himself into our society.” George Washington, in a letter to John Adams, similarly emphasized that immigrants should be absorbed into American life so that, “by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws: in a word soon become one people.” #share#Alexander Hamilton, relevant as ever today, wrote in 1802: “The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education, and family.” LumRaiderFan, OlDawg and Reagan 2 1 Quote
OlDawg Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago Nothing wrong with immigration. But—as was famously said—you can’t have open borders and a welfare state. Milton Friedman Cato Institute is libertarian. Their slogan is basically ‘build a wall around the welfare state, not around the nation.’ I think most people with a lick of common sense understand the two can’t co-exist without restrictions. So—as a liberal—you either have to give up your big government spending, or open immigration. You choose. @UT alum LumRaiderFan and baddog 2 Quote
baddog Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago Since we are talking immigration, Obama deported 480,000 in 2012 alone. How many deportations were blocked by federal judges? Did they all receive due process? Of course not. All this federal judges BS is reserved for Trump. How democratic is that? Protecting gang criminals!!!! What is wrong with you people???? LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
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