BMTSoulja1 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 That Vidor Team was lights out from 3 point land. They were very well coached. English knows his x's and o's. The reason Vidor didn't win district is because they lost a game to one of the cellar dwellars and lost a game to my Jags. Ozen lost to vidor twice in district but whipped everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 They lost to Dayton, Central and LCM that year...That was the first year of the "post-Perkins" era, and the team was very young that year...27-7, 12-2 in district still isn't half bad for a "DOWN" year, huh?? ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Talking about District. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 No, Soulja, Vidor lost to Dayton, Central, and LCM in 2004...They tied with you guys for....2nd place....2nd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team first Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 dickie u are way off. Dayton was not even in the district. And vidor did not lose to lcm that year. The district that year was wos sislbee png ned central ozen vidor lumberton lcm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 dickie u are way off. Dayton was not even in the district. And vidor did not lose to lcm that year. The district that year was wos sislbee png ned central ozen vidor lumberton lcm You are right, my bad...They lost to Central, Silsbee, and WOS...You are correct...Charge it to my old age!! 33!! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team first Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 no u are still wrong. vidor did not lose to silsbee and they did not tie with central for 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I could have sworn..but OK....THEY LOST THREE DISTRICT GAMES...right...OK...They came in 2nd place BEHIND Ozen right?? OK..That I DO know FOR SURE .... Are you sure that they did not lose at Silsbee that year?? Who was the third loss too then, because it slips me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team first Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 all 3 loses for vidor that year where becuase the other teams matched up well verus vidor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Well they definitely were not OUTCOACHED!! :..I mean, the other 637 times that Boutte beat English it was due to better talent, right? Coaching had NOTHING to do with it when Boutte wins, right? He was outcoached 3 times in 3 losses to Vidor, right? Sounds crazy, right? Thats exactly what I thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I knew he was wrong about Dayton. They might have beaten the Pirates in non-district. Vidor did lose to another team besides Central. I think it was PN-G when they had worthington (sp) and Duriso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 It WAS PNG!! PNG, Central, and WOS beat Vidor that year!...Thanks, Soulja...I hate it when I get a brain freeze like that!! Basketball GURU's mess up sometimes, too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team first Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Well they definitely were not OUTCOACHED!! :..I mean, the other 637 times that Boutte beat English it was due to better talent, right? Coaching had NOTHING to do with it when Boutte wins, right? He was outcoached 3 times in 3 losses to Vidor, right? Sounds crazy, right? Thats exactly what I thought... I never said coaching has nothing to due with it when Boutte wins. I have said this before and will say it again. Boutte does a great job. The job he did last year, to make the finals was great coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Maybe that was another guy named "team first" that said on page 2 of this thread that Boutte was "outcoached 3 times that year versus Vidor"...My mistake, it could not have been you.. :....right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 It WAS PNG!! PNG, Central, and WOS beat Vidor that year!...Thanks, Soulja...I hate it when I get a brain freeze like that!! Basketball GURU's mess up sometimes, too!! Just call me your aux. brain, DV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozensfinest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 is this even a serious post whoever play ozen in the near future better be on the look out for a young man by the name of decarlos frank he has been on fire in the last few games he had 33 last game and as for central lets just say i feel sorry for gulley and the rest................. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D : : : : Get real. I hope Coach unleashes Gulley. Let's keep it real. Who does Ozen have that can handle this beast?!! I just hope the rest of the team can start playing on a high level. We're going to need this from here on out to the playoffs. IMO......gulley is no beast if noone on OZEN's team cant control him then he would of been able to take over at the end of the game and failed to do so.........but if im not mistaking decarlos did just that and got his team the victory now we all know who the true beast is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 after all of this arguing the point is still the same---Vidor gets whipped by Ozen this time around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team first Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 no u are wrong again. U said coaching had nothing to do with it rt when Boutte won. I never said that. I just said English outcoached yall those 3 times. U were wrong the whole topic and u are wrong again. And i will say it again Engish outcoached Boutte those 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 And I say that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard...So the score is 637 to 3, Boutte over English, and you tell me that 3 times in a row he got outcoached by him....That is really crazy...I may have forgotten who Vidor lost to initially, and that is OK, BUT what you are saying is really dumb...Vidor matched up really well with Ozen that year...Would they have beaten them in the playoffs...I would bet not..They were not blowouts, as a matter of fact, 2 were OT games..They were all very close, but a turnover here, a blown assignment defensively there, a missed FT, etc, etc...THOSE were the reasons...BOTH coaches had solid game plans going in, Vidor's kids were OLDER and executed just a bit better down the stretch...It happens...OZEN STILL WON THE DISTRICT THOUGH...How about that? : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team first Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 u are wrong again. There where no ot games. Now this is the dumb statment. that Boutte is up on Englosh 637-3. That is just plan dumb. Boutte gets all his wins and English just gets 3. I also like this one. Vidor kids where older, Well Ozens kids where taller. Wow Once again Boutte does a great job Once again Eglish out coached him that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I was being sarcastic but, the point was that those three wins were the only times that he had EVER beaten him, still to THIS date...3 times in about 25 -30 tries, realistically. English is REALLY getting it done against Boutte coached teams, with all 3 wins in about 30 atempts!! :..And YOU are wrong because I know that the game in Nederland was OT, which was the first meeting, and I THINK the game went OT in Vidor....The part about Boutte getting outcoached is just PLAIN DUMB...But it is YOUR opinion, so I will leave it at that..No matter how DUMB it sounds, its YOUR opinion, and I will respect that.. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trad Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Mr. Vitale, No games have gone to overtime against Ozen, ever. In district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DickVitale Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 I am not 100% sure because THAT year I had taken a head coaching job in Houston. I am certain that the game was OT at the Nederland tourney, though..But my point still stands, though...The score is like 799-3, Boutte, and guys on here will still say that on those 3 occasions he was outcoached, and that is crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringiton Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Vidor upsetting Ozen in BASKETBALL ???? :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Hoops_08 Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 what Dickie V's point is, is!!! Congrats to Vidor, for winning 3 times in how many years now???? GREAT JOB!!!! Another point is,Vidor, why dont ya'll do that again??? oh and Y not do it this year? The point is, this is a new year a new season..Quit basking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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