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[fox]

from the case book.

 

6.2.4 SITUATION A: With R1 on third and R2 on first, F1 stretches and comes

set. He then swings his entire nonpivot foot behind the back edge of the pitcher’s

plate, steps toward second and (a) throws the ball to second in an attempt to

retire R2, who is advancing there or (b) feints throw to second to drive R2 back

to first, who has neither attempted nor feinted an advance to second. RULING: In

(a), this is legal. In (b), it is a balk.

[kirksey05]

That's what I was saying Fox, but I am stepping out of it.

[fox]

That's what I was saying Fox, but I am stepping out of it.

i always find it amusing when people make up their own rules when it is in black and white.

[MrUmp1]

What I usually see in this is a pitcher not directly throw to second if a runner breaks early. Almost everytime he runs at the runner or looks at him then throws. If he does not throw to second in one continuous motion it is a balk. He can not spin and run without disengaging from rubber then throw. 

[fox]

What I usually see in this is a pitcher not directly throw to second if a runner breaks early. Almost everytime he runs at the runner or looks at him then throws. If he does not throw to second in one continuous motion it is a balk. He can not spin and run without disengaging from rubber then throw. 

this says otherwise. as long as he steps toward second he can feint he does not have to throw. now he is off the rubber and can do what he wants. only base you can not feint to is first.

 

 failing to step with the non-pivot foot directly toward a base (occupied or

unoccupied) when throwing or feinting there in an attempt to put out, or

drive back a runner; or throwing or feinting to any unoccupied base when

it is not an attempt to put out or drive back a runner;

[MrUmp1]

I wasn't talking about feinting, I am saying you can not swing around and run after the runner who broke early without disengaging from the rubber first. 

[Baba Ganoush]

This can not be settled without a physical demo. There is a legal play to go to an unoccupied base. Umpires judgement on runner actually attempting to steal AND pitchers movement, will decide it. Just because you have never seen it, doesn't make it illegal. I threw that in referencing a reasoning from an umpire on why he called a balk on one of my pitchers. Can't protest bad judgement calls!

[texas13]

There are certain things related to balks not judgment calls

[MalakoffMan]

I wasn't talking about feinting, I am saying you can not swing around and run after the runner who broke early without disengaging from the rubber first. 

Yes you can. If you're talking about a runner leaving 2nd base headed to 3rd early and a pitcher does an "inside" move, he does not have to throw. And if you don't have to throw, what else is there to do besides take off running and forcing a run down? Once your lead leg crosses over to the backside of the rubber and touching the dirt, you are considered disengaged...

[MalakoffMan]

I now see I came in late to the conversation and what MrUmp1 said is true. You cannot pick-off to an unoccupied base. If a pitcher pivots on his back foot to 2nd without a runner already established at 2nd base, it is a pick-off.

[BS Wildcats]

Discussion going on in another thread about mercy rule. What exactly is it?

[643]

10 run rule

[BS Wildcats]

I know, but what inning.

[BS Wildcats]

I should have asked if it is a uil or district rule. I know it is the 5th inning. They should at least make it 15 after 3.

[MrUmp1]

Federation rule / uil rule. 10 runs ahead after 5. Only time you will see anything different could be in one of the early season tournys. A team if it is behind can call their own mercy rule at anytime without penalty from UIL and is considered a complete game

[BS Wildcats]

Thanks

[Silsbee92]

Rule on stepping outside batters box? Still exist?

[BS Wildcats]

I think it is a strike if pitched, and if batter gets back in box and puts ball in play he is out. Not 100% sure on this though

[deuces]

Couple of different rules. Which one are you referring to?

[Silsbee92]

Stepping out of batters box and contacting a pitched ball.

[MrUmp1]

A batter is to be ready to enter the box. If he delays by not getting in the box or walks off after a pitch, a strike can be called. Part of the speed up rules is to keep the batters near the box. Another situation is if a batter ask for time but it is not granted and he walks out of the box, if the pitch is delivered it is a strike no matter if it is in the strike zone or not. I always try to keep the batters near the box, on  very few occasions over the past years have I called a strike on the batter. This has been a rule since the 1990's . 

[MrUmp1]

Stepping out of batters box and contacting a pitched ball

 

if this happened he would not get his base and it would be umpires judgement if it was a strike or not

[Silsbee92]

Ok. So batter is not out but the contacted ball is not in play and judgement on strike or ball.

Frequency of this call being made?

[MrUmp1]

very rare but I have called it for someone sticking out an arm

[643]

Really no different than not making a attempt to get out of the way....in the box or out