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[court side]

[quote name="643" post="781653" timestamp="1269518218"]
Will depend on what your playing...LL, Pony, HS ball???? I'm sure Mr Ump will ask so what is it?????
[/quote]Was asking about high school ball, Thanks Mr Ump

[HSB&Rangers]

[quote name="Silsbee88" post="782143" timestamp="1269573790"]

[quote author=Slugger link=topic=35113.msg782140#msg782140 date=1269573287]
[color=#151b8d]First of all, I'd like to thank this web site and MrUmp1 for providing a great service to the baseball community here in Texas. [i]"Thanks"[/i]

[i]Say hey[/i], I need a little help here MrUmp1 with giving the "W" to the pitcher who earned the "W".

First game of season for our High School team is in a Tourney with a no-inning started after 1:45 min of play.

Game goes 6 complete innings.

Our team wins 7 - 0.

Our Pitcher #1 goes 3 complete innings and leaves with score 3 - 0 and is thrown out of game by HP Umpire in the 4th for arguing called third strke while he is AB.

Pitcher #1 gives up: 3 H, 3 BB, 4 K, 0 ER and pitches out of 2 serious jams.

Our Pitcher #2 comes in and pitches 3 complete innings. Our team scores 4 more runs for a 7-0 lead.

Pitcher #2 gives up: 0 H, 1 BB, 6 K, 0 ER and throws 32 pitches in his 3 IP.

Who gets the win? [/color]



[/quote]

Pitcher #1 get the win
[/quote]

That is correct. It is rule 9.6.6 in the high school rule book. Kind of confusing.

[i]ART. 6 . . . Winning and losing pitchers are determined as follows:
a. If the starting pitcher has pitched the first four innings or more and his
team is ahead when he is replaced and the team holds the lead for the
remainder of the game, he shall be the winning pitcher.
b. If a game ends for whatever reason, having gone less than seven innings,
then the starting pitcher shall have pitched three or more consecutive
innings to be declared the winning pitcher. If the starting pitcher cannot be
declared the winning pitcher, and more than one relief pitcher is used, the
winning pitcher shall be determined using the following criteria:
1. If the score is tied, it results in the game becoming a new contest so
far as judging who is the winning and losing pitcher.
2. If the starting pitcher is removed before having pitched four or more
innings and his team is ahead, the official scorer shall determine the
winning pitcher to be the relief pitcher who has been the most effective.
3. If the opposition goes ahead, pitchers up to that time in the game
cannot be credited with the win. However, if the pitcher pitching subsequently
takes and maintains a lead the remainder of the game, said
pitcher is credited with the win.
4. Generally the relief pitcher credited with the win is the pitcher when his
team takes the lead and holds it for the rest of the game. However, if
the relief pitcher pitches only a short while or not effectively and a succeeding
relief pitcher replaces him and does better work in keeping the
lead, the latter shall be granted the win.
c. If a pitcher is removed for a pinch-hitter or a pinch-runner, the runs scored
by his team during the inning of his removal are to be credited to his
benefit to decide the pitcher of record.
d. The starting pitcher shall be charged with the loss when he is replaced and
his team is behind or falls behind because of runs assessed to him after
being replaced and his team does not subsequently tie the score or take the
lead.
e. A pitcher cannot be given credit for pitching a shutout when he does not
pitch the complete game except when he enters the game with no one out
before the opponents have scored in the first inning and does not permit
the opposition to score during the game.[/i]

And thought something like that was simple.

[MrUmp1]

Thanks for the rule slo.. That's one of the things that comes under the official scorer's duties and something I never worry about.

[Slugger]

[color=navy]Thanks gentlemen - that's kinda the way I figured it would score in the record book.

However, I didn't know if Pitcher #1 being kicked outta the game by the Ump before he could go the 4 IP would affect the 'W' situation.[/color]

[Guest gwmcdona]

What does the rule book say about the ejection of a pitcher by umpire? Any bench warnings to both sides or automatic ejection?

[HSB&Rangers]

I think MrUmp1 will need some more details about the situation here.

But there a lot of things that a player or coach can be ejected for and most are umpires judgment.

[Guest gwmcdona]

The situation- hit batsman resulting in the judgement by the umpire that it was intentional. It was a two run game in the sixth inning and a curve ball thrown. What are the rules around this topic?

[MrUmp1]

In the judgment of the umpire if he feels that what was done was on purpose then he can eject no warnings needed. General speaking, if a pitcher is going to throw at a batter on purpose, it is a fast ball not a curve.

[yellowjackets2013]

Can a pitcher who is in the stretch pause while he is in motion and is commited to home? like not pause as in put his foot down and not throw it but pause as in just stop with his foot up in the air for a split second?

[MrUmp1]

If you are asking can a pitcher in the stretch pick up his foot and hold it for a second then step... the answer is yes as long as he does not move forward toward the plate. If he throws to a base such as first for a left hander or third for a right hander, he must step toward the base and not let his body move toward the plate.

[643]

Watch the new guy on the Astros, one of the wierdest windups-stretch I've ever seen...

[MrUmp1]

I don't watch too much minor league baseball  ;)

[643]

The one I'm talking of is in the Big league, you'll know him when you see him, he's from the Dominican I think....

[Speedkills]

[quote name="MrUmp1" post="788665" timestamp="1270904876"]
I don't watch too much minor league baseball  ;)
[/quote]
lol 

[vidor pirate]

ball gets cranked deep into the outfield, hits a flag pole, and comes down in fair play, fair ball or home run??? hypothetical question, just wondering

[VP93....]

I know if a pitcher makes an attempt to pick off a runner on first but fails to throw the ball it's a balk.

Now why isn't it a balk if the same thing happens on second? ( Second is the only base being occupied )

[MrUmp1]

[quote name="vidor pirate" post="791293" timestamp="1271467331"]
ball gets cranked deep into the outfield, hits a flag pole, and comes down in fair play, fair ball or home run??? hypothetical question, just wondering
[/quote]

Most of the time it is a homerun but that is why we ask the home coach to go over the ground rules for his park. If the flag pole or any other object is on the out side of the fence it is a homerun.

[MrUmp1]

[quote name="VP 93......" post="791303" timestamp="1271467705"]
I know if a picture makes an attempt to pick off a runner on first but fails to throw the ball it's a balk.

Now why isn't it a balk if the same thing happens on second? ( Second is the only base being occupied )
[/quote]

If a picture fakes a throw i call it a Kodak Moment...  Now if a PITCHER fakes a throw to first it is a balk, your question why isn't it a balk to fake to another bag. That my friend is a question for Abner Doubleday.. it is just the rules as they are and I do not know why except to say that's the way it is.

[643]

[quote name="VP 93......" post="791303" timestamp="1271467705"]
I know if a pitcher makes an attempt to pick off a runner on first but fails to throw the ball it's a balk.

Now why isn't it a balk if the same thing happens on second? ( Second is the only base being occupied )
[/quote]Cuz he releases the rubber, if he releases or steps OFF the rubber with runner on first he DON'T have to thro in this situtation ether, could be thats why Mr Ump had PITCHER in upper class cuz when a pitcher releases the rubber he not a pitcher... 

[vidor pirate]

[quote name="MrUmp1" post="791415" timestamp="1271473949"]
[quote author=vidor pirate link=topic=35113.msg791293#msg791293 date=1271467331]
ball gets cranked deep into the outfield, hits a flag pole, and comes down in fair play, fair ball or home run??? hypothetical question, just wondering
[/quote]

Most of the time it is a homerun but that is why we ask the home coach to go over the ground rules for his park. If the flag pole or any other object is on the out side of the fence it is a homerun.
[/quote]
thanks, have always wondered about that
would be kind of wierd to have a big flag pole in the middle of the outfield  ;D ;D ;D

[ya_know]

I did not see this on here and it happened to us today.  Do you have to report pinch hitters and pinch runners to the umpire before entering the game?  We were told you do not have to report them.  I was under the understanding you must report them to the umpire.  If you do have to report them could you give me the rule number if there is one.  Thanks.

[MrUmp1]

An unannounced sub is not illegal if it is detected. We just make the appropriate changes needed.  Federation Book Rule three first paragraph. Should there be no announcement of substitutions, a substitute has entered the game when the ball is alive and :
a: a runner takes the place of a runner he replaced
b: a pitcher takes his place on the pitchers plate
c: a fielder reaches the position usually occupied by the fielder he has replaced or
d: a batter takes his place in the batters box.

Hope this helps

[DC07]

if a batter strikes out on a swinging strike 3, and the ball hits him in the act of the swing. Does he have the oppertunity to advance to first?

[MrUmp1]

No he does not. When a batter gets hit by a pitch in the act of swinging, it is called a dead ball strike and no one can advance.

[Speedkills]

Theres a runner on first he steals second but when he does the batter tips the ball and the catcher catches it. Thats considered a live ball correct?