MrUmp1 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Posted June 4, 2008 He is not out on an incidental touching of a bag in the way you put it. you will always hear someone yell he didn't tag up and then they touch the bag. If he didn't tag make sure they are trying to put him out. Quote
AstrosDawg07 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Posted June 4, 2008 He is not out on an incidental touching of a bag in the way you put it. you will always hear someone yell he didn't tag up and then they touch the bag. If he didn't tag make sure they are trying to put him out. How do you verify their intentions then? So the intention of touching the bag has to be to get him out for not tagging up? Quote
MrUmp1 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Posted June 4, 2008 Believe me you can tell what they are doing because if they are trying to get a runner out for leaving early then they will let you know. Quote
643 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Posted June 5, 2008 Hey D, wouldn't it really matter on the rules on the level of play?? Sometimes no appeal is required for you to 'ring m up' and other times a proper appeal has to be made no matter what. Quote
MrUmp1 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Posted June 5, 2008 They both have to be proper but yes in High School a verbal appeal by a player or coach is a proper appeal. Quote
AstrosDawg07 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 Runners sharing 3rd base, not a force play, is one automatically out or does a tag have to be applied? ??? Quote
MrUmp1 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 Tag needs to be made but it needs to be made on the back runner. The runner who is the lead runner has the base if both are on it. The following runner would be out with a tag. One reason why is so a team cannot have a slow runner replaced by a fast runner Quote
AstrosDawg07 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Posted June 24, 2008 That's what I thought and I had a coach try to argue with me saying that it was an automatic out and he proceeded to tell me the has was a HS umpire and that I need to learn the rules. Guess who's laughing now ;D Quote
InTheGates Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Scenario: Runner on 2nd Pop up hit to SS (in the so called baseline) Runner on 2nd runs into the SS before SS has opportunity to make catch Quote
AstrosDawg07 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Scenario: Runner on 2nd Pop up hit to SS (in the so called baseline) Runner on 2nd runs into the SS before SS has opportunity to make catch Runner is out on obstruction, he needs to run behind or in front of the SS. Quote
Guest BCNatureBoy Posted June 27, 2008 Report Posted June 27, 2008 Saw this on a weird play highlight. Runner on first, batter hits ball to right side. Helmet comes off of runner and the ball hits the helmet, what's the call? Is the helmet part of the runner or the field at the time of impact? Quote
AstrosDawg07 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Posted June 27, 2008 Saw this on a weird play highlight. Runner on first, batter hits ball to right side. Helmet comes off of runner and the ball hits the helmet, what's the call? Is the helmet part of the runner or the field at the time of impact? No call, live ball as long as the runner didn't intentionally take his helmet off. Quote
643 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 Scenario: Runner on 2nd Pop up hit to SS (in the so called baseline) Runner on 2nd runs into the SS before SS has opportunity to make catch Runner is out on obstruction, he needs to run behind or in front of the SS. Could still be called out EVEN if no contact made.... Quote
MrUmp1 Posted July 7, 2008 Report Posted July 7, 2008 Been away for a bit just saw these new post. Just talking off the top of my head here but, I believe that a batted ball hitting a helmut would fall under the catagory of detached equipment. I need to look it up or call one of my buds at the Federation, ( thats baseball rules federation not Star Trek Federation) and see what they have to say about it. Quote
adminbaberuth Posted July 7, 2008 Author Report Posted July 7, 2008 Mr Ump1 This weekend we had a batter wanting to switch sides at the plate, right handed to left handed after a pitch had been thrown, same pitcher. We play MLB rules, can he do this? Quote
MrUmp1 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Posted July 8, 2008 It is legal as long as he does not make a travesty of the game. Quote
Strike 3 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Posted July 8, 2008 actually the batter can change once per at bat, the ruling can be found in the PBUC umpire manual and is also referenced in the BRD (baseball rules differences). If it is done because of an ambidextrous pitcher, the pitcher must declare which arm he will pitch with first. Quote
rhino1877 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Posted July 10, 2008 Got one for you....... Runners at 2nd and 3rd. 1 out. Fly ball deep to left. Runner at 3rd tags up and scores runner at second does not tag up. Ball is thrown to the plate then to second to get the out from the runner not tagging up. Does the run score and why or why not? Quote
adminbaberuth Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Posted July 10, 2008 Got one for you....... Runners at 2nd and 3rd. 1 out. Fly ball deep to left. Runner at 3rd tags up and scores runner at second does not tag up. Ball is thrown to the plate then to second to get the out from the runner not tagging up. Does the run score and why or why not? Run scores if he crosses plate before unforced tag. Quote
MrUmp1 Posted July 11, 2008 Report Posted July 11, 2008 Admin is correct. The run scores if he crosses the plate before the 3rd out is made. The tag of a bag to put out a runner for not tagging up is not considered a force play even though it looks like one. Quote
Guest Orangeboy Posted July 12, 2008 Report Posted July 12, 2008 Admin is correct. The run scores if he crosses the plate before the 3rd out is made. The tag of a bag to put out a runner for not tagging up is not considered a force play even though it looks like one. Why is that not considered a force? They must tag to advance after the fly. Quote
643 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Admin is correct. The run scores if he crosses the plate before the 3rd out is made. The tag of a bag to put out a runner for not tagging up is not considered a force play even though it looks like one. Why is that not considered a force? They must tag to advance after the fly. Its pretty simple....He wasn't forced to go anywhere Quote
Guest BC boy 17 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Posted July 13, 2008 Admin is correct. The run scores if he crosses the plate before the 3rd out is made. The tag of a bag to put out a runner for not tagging up is not considered a force play even though it looks like one. Why is that not considered a force? They must tag to advance after the fly. Its pretty simple....He wasn't forced to go anywhere If the batter is the first out made on the play (strike out, fly out, tag out, thrown out at first) then all other runners advance at their own risk. Once the ball is put in play the batter has right to advance to first. The runner at first loses possesion of the bag until the batter is put out. The dominos fall until they reach a previously unoccupied base, i.e. home plate if bases are full. Once the batter is out there is no force at any bag. Quote
AstrosDawg07 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Posted July 14, 2008 Batter steps out of box/on plate while making contact with ball. The runner is out, but is this a dead ball? Quote
MrUmp1 Posted July 15, 2008 Report Posted July 15, 2008 It is an immediate dead ball. Batter out runners return. Quote
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