KFDM COOP Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 ummmm....wrong. WOS has tons of talent! And, they have a great staff and a community that backs them up. 2 of them are starting at UT this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.M.F. Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigSwitch Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 And of those 2 would have gone to a school like LCM, as talented as they are they more than likely would not be playing for UT. The programs are just a lot different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.M.F. Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 don't agree with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dirk Diggler Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Speed kills! WO-S has always had some of the fastest players in the area! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigSwitch Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 don't agree with that! Then you need to wake up and smell the coffee. Why do you think they all leave. Because they want to be better!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dirk Diggler Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Fair point there! But WOS has always been loaded with talent and Coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigSwitch Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 As I stated before, they have talent, and the best coaching, but they work harder than most and that brings all the players to another level. The average kid at LCM would be above average at WOS if he could handle the offseason and regular season workouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dirk Diggler Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.M.F. Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I got it! Combine the two schools and let Coach Hooks work his magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82 5A State Champs Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Yeah.....you could call it West Orange-Mauriceville, or Little Mauriceville-Stark.....and the mascot would be the Mudbugs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigskinmom Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Yeah.....you could call it West Orange-Mauriceville, or Little Mauriceville-Stark.....and the mascot would be the Mudbugs!!! we've had this thread many times before...not gonna happen...needs to happen, but not gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Yeah.....you could call it West Orange-Mauriceville, or Little Mauriceville-Stark.....and the mascot would be the Mudbugs!!! I'd say call them the Orange Tigers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNHO Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Though the kids swolled it,hook line and sinker,Moody made lcm the laughing stock of southeast tx. with the BOJO thingy. he is the only one chanting bojo most of the kids laugh about it They might laugh,but they chant it from the stands the times I have been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNHO Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Man, ya'll are hard on that guy! I dont agree with what he did, but cut the guy a little slack. He's doing the best he can with the talent he has to work with. Let's face it, most of the talent in Orange county goes to WO-S. I think the talent is there.LCM is just not a football school because they have not had a great deal of success.IMO there is talent but they want come out for football. I know that coaching and the type of program have a lot to do with the success of any school.You put all this togather and it will equal failure. Look at schools like PNG,NED,WO-S,WB,BC,Newton and others.They don't stay on top for ever but they don't stay down for long either.All these schools have something in common...Winning!!! Why?They have the right work ethic instilled in their kids...all the kids not just a handful. I remember years back when it all came togather for LCM and they had a great playoff run...three or four rounds deep.I thought that would light a fire for the future but it just fizzled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLDad Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I did not say that they don't have talent. I said they don't have that muchmore talent than everybody else. They simply work harder to develop the less talented kids that surround the talent that they do have, which makes them a much better football team than most. I have seen it first hand. : Keep telling yourself that. Thats like saying LSU doesn't have that much more talent than Tulane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornets85 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Man, ya'll are hard on that guy! I dont agree with what he did, but cut the guy a little slack. He's doing the best he can with the talent he has to work with. Let's face it, most of the talent in Orange county goes to WO-S. I think the talent is there.LCM is just not a football school because they have not had a great deal of success.IMO there is talent but they want come out for football. I know that coaching and the type of program have a lot to do with the success of any school.You put all this togather and it will equal failure. Look at schools like PNG,NED,WO-S,WB,BC,Newton and others.They don't stay on top for ever but they don't stay down for long either.All these schools have something in common...Winning!!! Why?They have the right work ethic instilled in their kids...all the kids not just a handful. I remember years back when it all came togather for LCM and they had a great playoff run...three or four rounds deep.I thought that would light a fire for the future but it just fizzled out. There is a lot of untaped talent on the team now that Moody doesn't use because he wont give them the chance. He has players that give it their all and do everything he ask. All he does is play his favorites. I have seen coaches that have almost no talent win more games because the coach knew how to work with the kids and they wanted to work for him. Time and time again I have watched Moody get on a kid that gets 1/10th the practice time doing the wrong thing 1 time. While a starter is doing the exact same thing almost every play, but that kid starts and both are the same size, have the same speed and have the same talent. A coach has to develop all the players so they can all be their if needed. If all but the last string player goes down how will that player be able to help the team if the coach hasn't done his job. The player will get yelled at for not know the play when he knows the plays on paper just never practiced them. He has told the kids that do what he ask they would play more. I know someone is going to say the best should start. The only problem with that is sometimes the better player is not the one starting because he doesn't get the practice the other players get. The ones that are starting are Moody's pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigSwitch Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I did not say that they don't have talent. I said they don't have that muchmore talent than everybody else. They simply work harder to develop the less talented kids that surround the talent that they do have, which makes them a much better football team than most. I have seen it first hand. : Keep telling yourself that. Thats like saying LSU doesn't have that much more talent than Tulane. There is no way you can compare College to Highschool. If you try to sell many places you will get laughed at :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Man, ya'll are hard on that guy! I dont agree with what he did, but cut the guy a little slack. He's doing the best he can with the talent he has to work with. Let's face it, most of the talent in Orange county goes to WO-S. I think the talent is there.LCM is just not a football school because they have not had a great deal of success.IMO there is talent but they want come out for football. I know that coaching and the type of program have a lot to do with the success of any school.You put all this togather and it will equal failure. Look at schools like PNG,NED,WO-S,WB,BC,Newton and others.They don't stay on top for ever but they don't stay down for long either.All these schools have something in common...Winning!!! Why?They have the right work ethic instilled in their kids...all the kids not just a handful. I remember years back when it all came togather for LCM and they had a great playoff run...three or four rounds deep.I thought that would light a fire for the future but it just fizzled out. There is a lot of untaped talent on the team now that Moody doesn't use because he wont give them the chance. He has players that give it their all and do everything he ask. All he does is play his favorites. I have seen coaches that have almost no talent win more games because the coach knew how to work with the kids and they wanted to work for him. Time and time again I have watched Moody get on a kid that gets 1/10th the practice time doing the wrong thing 1 time. While a starter is doing the exact same thing almost every play, but that kid starts and both are the same size, have the same speed and have the same talent. A coach has to develop all the players so they can all be their if needed. If all but the last string player goes down how will that player be able to help the team if the coach hasn't done his job. The player will get yelled at for not know the play when he knows the plays on paper just never practiced them. He has told the kids that do what he ask they would play more. I know someone is going to say the best should start. The only problem with that is sometimes the better player is not the one starting because he doesn't get the practice the other players get. The ones that are starting are Moody's pets. What I noticed last year was that he had his starters set from day one and no matter how they performed or( did'nt in this case )had no bearing on how much they played, has you know they were 1-9 on the season but he would never vary on who played no matter the score or the game at some point you have to challenge your better players to step it up whether it is pulling them for a series to get thier attention or take them from the starting line up. They knew that there was no chance of losing thier job. At any level you must do this to get the best from your players. As for the pet thing I dont think he mistreats any kids he just does'nt challenge them to be better. jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornets85 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I did not say mistreat I said gets on to when he doesn't say anything to so called pets or starters that are not challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 I did not say mistreat I said gets on to when he doesn't say anything to so called pets or starters that are not challenged. I guess I stand corrected, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gastephenson Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Moody does play favorites he did it last year. It is sad that everyone in the stands knew that he played favorites. The same players got the ball on every play and he ran the same play everytime up the middle. The bears had alot of talent on their team last year but Moody didn't know what to do with it. I honestly believe Dan Hooks could go into LCM and turn that football program around with the players that are there. The boys are the ones that suffer because Moody does not know what he is doing. You would have thought that our school board would have realize that last year and got rid of him. I was told that alot of the boys that played football in the past did not go out for it this year simply because they did not want to play under Moody again which is sad. I honestly hope our school board is listening to the parents and seeing what is going on and they do not renew this man contract for another season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bleed orange Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Moody does play favorites he did it last year. It is sad that everyone in the stands knew that he played favorites. The same players got the ball on every play and he ran the same play everytime up the middle. The bears had alot of talent on their team last year but Moody didn't know what to do with it. I honestly believe Dan Hooks could go into LCM and turn that football program around with the players that are there. The boys are the ones that suffer because Moody does not know what he is doing. You would have thought that our school board would have realize that last year and got rid of him. I was told that alot of the boys that played football in the past did not go out for it this year simply because they did not want to play under Moody again which is sad. I honestly hope our school board is listening to the parents and seeing what is going on and they do not renew this man contract for another season. I believe also that Dan Hooks could turn around the football program at LCM. That is "IF" the parents would allow it. That's a big "IF". Coaches Hooks has been coaching the same way for thirty years. Its his way or the highway. That is why he is still at WOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Moody does play favorites he did it last year. It is sad that everyone in the stands knew that he played favorites. The same players got the ball on every play and he ran the same play everytime up the middle. The bears had alot of talent on their team last year but Moody didn't know what to do with it. I honestly believe Dan Hooks could go into LCM and turn that football program around with the players that are there. The boys are the ones that suffer because Moody does not know what he is doing. You would have thought that our school board would have realize that last year and got rid of him. I was told that alot of the boys that played football in the past did not go out for it this year simply because they did not want to play under Moody again which is sad. I honestly hope our school board is listening to the parents and seeing what is going on and they do not renew this man contract for another season. I believe also that Dan Hooks could turn around the football program at LCM. That is "IF" the parents would allow it. That's a big "IF". Coaches Hooks has been coaching the same way for thirty years. Its his way are the highway. That is why he is still at WOS. I believe you are correct he needs to enforce discipline on all players across the board no matter how good or bad of a player they are. Which he did not do last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcmballer20 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Man, ya'll are hard on that guy! I dont agree with what he did, but cut the guy a little slack. He's doing the best he can with the talent he has to work with. Let's face it, most of the talent in Orange county goes to WO-S. i know of about 10 or 15 kids that have played football all there life that REFUSE to play football for moody. i think there is potential for a better team, but they just dont want to play for him. im not sayin that there is enough talent to go to playoffs everyyear or anything, but they could be a better team then what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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