Cardinals Recruiting Stud West-Coast JUCO Guard

[Guest mffl]

Curtis Eatmon

Shooting guard

Glendora (CA) Citrus C.C.

Ht: 6-foot-4

Wt: 185 lbs

Class: 2009 (Junior College)

Eatmon is a transfer from the University of Utah.

He was a top 5 guard on the west coast coming out in 2006, however he was listed as a PG then and now he's at SG.

[Guest abovetherim]

mffl, if you get a chance please list all the guys you know Lamar is recruiting. BTW, this cat sounds like a stud.

Didn't one of our assistants coach at Utah? There could be a connection to put Lamar in a great position to land this guy.

[Guest coachacola]

Thanks for all the basketball recruiting info mffl.  You really know how to find this stuff.  Like abovetherim said, a list of all the guys you know Lamar is recruiting would be great.  We keep hearing about all these guards, how about some big guys?

[BLUEDOVE3]

I hate to burst yall bubble but LU has a history of recruiting players who are overrated. When LU did get a legit stud a few seasons ago, it was only because nobody else would touch the guy. And LU is still paying for that mistake. But it's good you guys still back your school the way you do.

[Guest abovetherim]

Please look at the current roster. I see no players overrated. BTW, this guy (Curtis Eatmon) started at Utah as a freshman. He is probably pretty good.

[BLUEDOVE3]

Please look at the current roster. I see no players overrated. BTW, this guy (Curtis Eatmon) started at Utah as a freshman. He is probably pretty good.

Actually I haven't looked at the current roster. There is no need because I've looked at it for the past 20 years and the same results. The recruiting period brings about overrated bios on most of these players. If they were really good, they would have signed at a major D-1 school. I wonder if this kid lost his scholarship at Utah?

[BLUEDOVE3]

Hmm! 5'9" point guard Nic Wise from Kingwood was ranked higher than this kid the year they came out and little Nic signed with a major D-1 program.

[Guest abovetherim]

Great for Nic, has he made All-Conference yet?

[AggiesAreWe]

Please look at the current roster. I see no players overrated. BTW, this guy (Curtis Eatmon) started at Utah as a freshman. He is probably pretty good.

Actually I haven't looked at the current roster. There is no need because I've looked at it for the past 20 years and the same results. The recruiting period brings about overrated bios on most of these players. If they were really good, they would have signed at a major D-1 school. I wonder if this kid lost his scholarship at Utah?

I am a little confused with your posts, BLUEDOVE. Are you implying that folks on this board believe Lamar is on an even playing field with the major D-I schools across this country and should be getting major D-I recruits? Or is it that you think Lamar fans try to make mountains out of molehills with the recruits they get?

[BLUEDOVE3]

Great for Nic, has he made All-Conference yet?

Well I haven't heard that he lost his scholarship either!

[BLUEDOVE3]

Please look at the current roster. I see no players overrated. BTW, this guy (Curtis Eatmon) started at Utah as a freshman. He is probably pretty good.

Actually I haven't looked at the current roster. There is no need because I've looked at it for the past 20 years and the same results. The recruiting period brings about overrated bios on most of these players. If they were really good, they would have signed at a major D-1 school. I wonder if this kid lost his scholarship at Utah?

I am a little confused with your posts, BLUEDOVE. Are you implying that folks on this board believe Lamar is on an even playing field with the major D-I schools across this country and should be getting major D-I recruits? Or is it that you think Lamar fans try to make mountains out of molehills with the recruits they get?

"Lamar fans try to make mountains out of molehills with the recruits they get!!!!"

[LUFAN]

Dove

Fly away, you always talk noise about LU... They do have some decent recruits... but as a Low Major program we have to take what we can get. Sometimes those risks do not pan out IE James Davis.... sometimes they do..  We may not be the experts on recruiting, but most of the time the experts agree that LU has the best recruiting classes in the SLC and sometimes some of the top in the nation. 

You are such a pessimist I wonder how you could have any friends.... or even how you can like anything about yourself... 

[Lazeek]

Dove

Fly away, you always talk noise about LU... They do have some decent recruits... but as a Low Major program we have to take what we can get. Sometimes those risks do not pan out IE James Davis.... sometimes they do..  We may not be the experts on recruiting, but most of the time the experts agree that LU has the best recruiting classes in the SLC and sometimes some of the top in the nation. 

You are such a pessimist I wonder how you could have any friends.... or even how you can like anything about yourself... 

Nice!!!!!

He feels the same way about HJ and Silsbee basketball!!!!

[LUFAN]

He is starting to get on my nerves. He says that he supports LU then flaps his jaws reminding me of Terror.

[BLUEDOVE3]

He is starting to get on my nerves. He says that he supports LU then flaps his jaws reminding me of Terror.

Let it be known that The Dove wishes a 2009 championship in the SLC for the LU Cards. I just think the LU PR guys do a good job of selling their recruits to the LU fans. At least these guys will help LU with their graduation rate for athletes.

[Guest abovetherim]

He is starting to get on my nerves. He says that he supports LU then flaps his jaws reminding me of Terror.

Let it be known that The Dove wishes a 2009 championship in the SLC for the LU Cards. I just think the LU PR guys do a good job of selling their recruits to the LU fans. At least these guys will help LU with their graduation rate for athletes.

One thing that doesn't make sense to me Dove is, why would Coach Roccaforte hype his recruits? I mean if he doesn't win with guys that are suppose to be all-world then the reason for losing falls on the head coach's shoulders. Did Coach Roc hype some players as an assistant? Maybe, but I promise you he is smart enough to know if he hypes his players as the head coach and they don't produce he may be looking for a new job in a couple of years. Especially with the coaching staff he has put together.

Forgive me, you probably think the coaching staff is hyped by the PR department? Where exactly is the PR department in the Montagne Center? I'd like to stop by and chat with those guys.

[BLUEDOVE3]

He is starting to get on my nerves. He says that he supports LU then flaps his jaws reminding me of Terror.

Let it be known that The Dove wishes a 2009 championship in the SLC for the LU Cards. I just think the LU PR guys do a good job of selling their recruits to the LU fans. At least these guys will help LU with their graduation rate for athletes.

One thing that doesn't make sense to me Dove is, why would Coach Roccaforte hype his recruits? I mean if he doesn't win with guys that are suppose to be all-world then the reason for losing falls on the head coach's shoulders. Did Coach Roc hype some players as an assistant? Maybe, but I promise you he is smart enough to know if he hypes his players as the head coach and they don't produce he may be looking for a new job in a couple of years. Especially with the coaching staff he has put together.

Forgive me, you probably think the coaching staff is hyped by the PR department? Where exactly is the PR department in the Montagne Center? I'd like to stop by and chat with those guys.

Dang Above, you ask some good questions. So what part of the LU sports dept. do you work   Anyway, all good coaches justify why a certain player was signed and there is no problem with this method. But the LU Sports Info Dept. has a history of building these players up and some of us on this forum use the term "stud" to describe their play. LU history tells me not to buy into that type of hype. The kid (stud)who signed with Utah in 2006. I did some checking on him. One ranking service has him #300. Little bitty Nic Wise (5'9") from Kingwood High was in the top 200, if not the top 150. But this stud did attend some major camps and performed well in front of some coaches. Plus the deciding factor is that this kid seems to have a good academic head. Rock will say after a losing season that at least the kids are graduating. If Rock stays at LU long enough, this will be his justification that the program is heading in the right direction. Oh yeah, they use to be in room 137 back in the day.

[Guest abovetherim]

So, I need to talk with the sports information guys? Well, where do they get there information? Texas Hoops, Rivals, scout. hoopmasters, jucojunction and etc. No, they walk down the hall and talk to the coaches. Therefore, it isn't the SI department but the coaches who give the stats and accolades of the players to the SID and they put the bios together. I promise the SI department isn't in the business of "building these players up".

Now about the player in question Curtis Eatmon, I too did some checking on him and 2 recruiting websites had him as a Top 100 recruit with one ranking him at #88. I'll post the information so you don't think I'm making it up.

[Guest abovetherim]

Background

Height: 6-2

Position: PG

Home town: Rancho Cucamonga, CA

College: Utah

Rankings

RSCI: #100+ (Top 100)

Dave Telep: 

HS Analyst: #88

[Guest abovetherim]

 

Class of 2006 recruiting rankings, compiled by PrepStars.com's Rob Harrington

1. Greg Oden 7-0 C Lawrence North (Indianapolis) OHIO STATE

2. Kevin Durant 6-9 WF Montrose Christian (Rockville, Md.) TEXAS

3. Chase Budinger 6-8 WF La Costa Canyon (Carlsbad, Calif.) ARIZONA

4. Thaddeus Young 6-8 WF Mitchell (Memphis, Tenn.) GEORGIA TECH

5. Spencer Hawes 6-11 C/PF Seattle Prep WASHINGTON

6. Brandan Wright 6-10 PF Brentwood (Tenn.) NORTH CAROLINA

7. Tywon Lawson 6-0 PG Oak Hill (Mouth of Wilson, Va.) NORTH CAROLINA

8. Brook Lopez 7-0 C San Joaquin Memorial (Fresno, Calif.) STANFORD

9. Robin Lopez 7-0 C/PF San Joaquin Memorial (Fresno, Calif.) STANFORD

10. Gerald Henderson 6-5 WF/SG Episcopal (Merion Station, Pa.) DUKE

11. Wayne Ellington 6-4 SG Episcopal (Merion Station, Pa.) NORTH CAROLINA

12. Daequan Cook 6-4 SG Dunbar (Dayton, Ohio) OHIO STATE

13. Sherron Collins 6-0 PG Crane (Chicago) KANSAS

14. Darrell Arthur 6-9 PF South Oak Cliff (Dallas) KANSAS

15.

Derrick Caracter 6-9 PF Notre Dame Prep (Fitchburg, Mass.) LOUISVILLE

16. Stanley Robinson 6-7 WF Huffman (Birmingham, Ala.) CONNECTICUT

17. Paul Harris 6-5 WF Notre Dame Prep (Fitchburg, Mass.) SYRACUSE

18. Quincy Pondexter 6-5 SG/WF San Joaquin Memorial (Fresno, Calif.) WASHINGTON

19. Lance Thomas 6-8 PF/WF St. Benedict's (Newark, N.J.) DUKE

20.

Davon Jefferson 6-8 PF/WF (home schooled) SOUTHERN CAL

21. Jon Scheyer 6-4 SG Glenbrook North (Northbrook, Ill.) DUKE

22. Earl Clark 6-9 SG/WF Rahway (N.J.) LOUISVILLE

23. Mike Conley 6-1 PG Lawrence North (Indianapolis) OHIO STATE

24. Vernon Macklin 6-10 PF Hargrave Military (Chatham, Va.) GEORGETOWN

25. Jerome Dyson 6-3 SG Proctor (Andover, N.H.) CONNECTICUT

26. Duke Crews 6-7 PF Bethel (Hampton, Va.) TENNESSEE

27. Damion James 6-8 PF/WF Nacogdoches (Texas)   

28. Javaris Crittenton 6-4 PG Southwest Atlanta Christian (Atlanta) GEORGIA TECH

29. David Lighty 6-4 SG St. Joseph (Cleveland, Ohio) OHIO STATE

30. Brian Carlwell 6-10 C Proviso East (Maywood, Ill.) ILLINOIS

31.

Jonathan Kreft 6-11 C Douglas (Parkland, Fla.) FLORIDA STATE

32. DaJuan Summers 6-8 PF/WF McDonough (Owing Mills, Md.) GEORGETOWN

33. James Keefe 6-8 PF Rancho Santa Margarito (Calif.) UCLA

34. Alex Stepheson 6-8 PF/C Harvard-Westlake (North Hollywood, Calif.) NORTH CAROLINA

35. Brian Zoubek 7-0 C Memorial (Haddonfield, N.J.) DUKE

36. Curtis Kelly 6-9 PF/C Rice (New York) CONNECTICUT

37. Raymar Morgan 6-7 WF McKinley (Canton, Ohio) MICHIGAN STATE

38. DeShawn Sims 6-7 PF/WF Pershing (Detroit) MICHIGAN

39. Deon Thompson 6-8 C/PF Torrance (Calif.) NORTH CAROLINA

40. Taj Gibson 6-8 PF Calvary Baptist Prep (La Verne, Calif.) SOUTHERN CAL

41. Doug Wiggins 5-11 PG East (Hartford, Conn.) CONNECTICUT

42. Phil Nelson 6-7 WF McNary (Keizer, Ore.) WASHINGTON

43. Scott Reynolds 6-0 SG/PG Herndon (Va.)   

44. Antonio Pena 6-8 PF/WF St. Thomas More Prep (Oakdale, Conn.) VILLANOVA

45. D.J. Augustin 5-11 PG Hightower (Suger Land, Texas) TEXAS

46. Michael Washington 6-9 PF/C Genesis One Prep (Mendenhall, Miss.) ARKANSAS

47. Tyler Smith 6-7 WF Hargrave Military (Chatham, Va.) IOWA

48. Anthony Gurley 6-2 SG Newton North (Newtonville, Mass.) WAKE FOREST

49. Tom Herzog 6-11 C Powers (Flint, Mich.) MICHIGAN STATE

50. Patrick Christopher 6-3 SG Dominguez (Compton, Calif.) CALIFORNIA

51. Ramar Smith 6-3 SG King (Detroit, Mich.) TENNESSEE

52. Willie Kemp 6-2 PG Central (Boliver, Tenn.) MEMPHIS

53. Eugene Harvey 6-0 PG St. Benedict's (Newark, N.J.)   

54. Jason Bennett 7-2 C Arlington Country Day (Jacksonville, Fla.) KANSAS STATE

55. Mike Jones 6-7 PF/WF Lower Richland (Hopkins, S.C.) SYRACUSE

56. Edgar Sosa 6-2 SG/PG Rice (New York) LOUISVILLE

57. Hasheem Thabeet 7-2 C Cypress Community Christian (Houston)   

58. Jonathan Mitchell 6-7 PF Mount Vernon (N.Y.) FLORIDA

59. Jamie Skeen 6-7 PF/WF North Mecklenburg (Huntersville, N.C) WAKE FOREST

60. DeSean Butler 6-7 WF/PF Bloomfield Tech (N.J.) WEST VIRGINIA

61. Jason Bohannon 6-2 SG/PG Linn-Marr (Marion, Iowa) WISCONSIN

62. Marreesse Speights 6-9 C/PF Hargrave Military (Chatham, Va.) FLORIDA

63. Jamil Tucker 6-8 WF/PF West Side (Gary, Ind.) VIRGINIA

64. Daniel Deane 6-8 PF/C Judge Memorial (Salt Lake City, Utah) UTAH

65. Taylor Harrison 6-9 C/PF San Clemente (Calif.) CALIFORNIA

66. Wayne Chism 6-8 PF/C Central (Boliver, Tenn.) TENNESSEE

67. Perry Stevenson 6-9 PF Northside (Lafayette, La.) KENTUCKY

68. Matt Bouldin 6-4 SG/PG ThunderRidge (Highlands Ranch, Colo.) GONZAGA

69. Gilbert Brown 6-5 WF/SG South Kent Prep (Conn.) PITTSBURGH

70. Hashim Bailey 6-10 C Patterson Prep (Lenoir, N.C.) MEMPHIS

71. Brandon Powell 6-3 SG Mitchell (Memphis, Tenn.) FLORIDA

72. Solomon Tat 6-5 WF/SG Community Christian Prep (Stockbridge, Ga.) VIRGINIA

73. Derrick Jasper 6-5 SG/PG Paso Robles (Calif.) KENTUCKY

74. Obi Muonelo 6-5 WF/SG Sante Fe (Edmond, Okla.) OKLAHOMA STATE

75. Tony Davis 6-7 PF Riverview (Sarasota, Fla.) CENTRAL FLORIDA

76. Nigel Munson 6-0 PG DeMatha (Hyattsville, Md.) VIRGINIA TECH

77. Dexter Pittman 6-9 C Terry (Rosenberg, Texas) TEXAS

78. Jodie Meeks 6-4 SG Norcross (Ga.) KENTUCKY

79. Keaton Grant 6-3 PG/SG Bridgton Prep (North Bridgton, Me.) PURDUE

80. Jeremy Mayfield 6-10 PF Gulf Shores Prep (Houston)   

81. Luke Harangody 6-7 PF Andrean (Merrillville, Ind.) NOTRE DAME

82. Adrion Graves 6-4 SG Hughes (Cincinnati, Ohio) XAVIER

83. Larry Davis 6-4 SG Christ the King (Middle Village, N.Y.) N.C. STATE

84. Matt Hill 6-10 PF Southeast (Lincoln, Neb.) TEXAS

85. Jerry Smith 6-2 SG East (Wauwatosa, Wis.) LOUISVILLE

86. Bryan Davis 6-8 PF Grand Prairie (Texas) TEXAS A&M

87. Mamadou Diarra 6-10 C Stoneridge Prep (Tierra Rejada, Calif.)   

88. Curtis Eatmon 6-2 PG/SG Los Osos (Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.) UTAH   8) 8)

89. Doneal Mack 6-4 SG Statesville Christian (N.C.) FLORIDA

90. Keith Clark 6-8 PF Putnam City (Oklahoma City, Okla.) OKLAHOMA

91. Ishmael Smith 5-11 PG Central Cabarrus (Concord, N.C.) WAKE FOREST

92. Isaiah Dahlman 6-7 WF Braham Area (Minn.) MICHIGAN STATE

93. JeJuan Brown 6-7 PF/WF Biloxi (Miss.) VANDERBILT

94. Tory Jackson 5-11 PG Buena Vista (Saginaw, Mich.) NOTRE DAME

95. Dan Werner 6-8 PF/WF Christian Brothers (Lincroft, N.J.) N.C. STATE

96. Leon Freeman 6-2 SG Belleville (Mich.)   

97. Will Walker 5-11 PG Bolingbrook (Ill.) DEPAUL

98. Marques Johnson 6-4 SG/PG Snider (Fort Wayne, Ind.) TENNESSEE

99. Russell Westbrook 6-2 SG Leuzinger (Lawndale, Calif.) UCLA

100. Jarvis Varnado 6-9 PF Haywood (Brownsville, Tenn.) MISSISSIPPI STATE

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[Guest abovetherim]

CLASS OF 2006 FINAL TOP 100

1.Greg Oden, 7-0 C, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

2.Kevin Durant, 6-10 WF, Rockville (MD) Montrose Christian- TEXAS

3.Thaddeus Young, 6-8 WF, Memphis (TN) Mitchell- GEORGIA TECH

4.Chase Budinger, 6-8 WF, Carlsbad (CA) La Costa Canyon- ARIZONA

5.Brandan Wright, 6-9 BF, Brentwood (TN) Academy- NORTH CAROLINA

6.Spencer Hawes, 6-11 C/BF, Seattle (WA) Prep- WASHINGTON

7.Gerald Henderson, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- DUKE

8.Sherron Collins, 5-11 PG, Chicago (IL) Crane- KANSAS

9.Tywon Lawson, 5-11 PG, Mouth of Wilson (VA) Oak Hill- NORTH CAROLINA

10.Darrell Arthur, 6-9 BF, Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff- KANSAS

11.Wayne Ellington, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- NORTH CAROLINA

12.Davon Jefferson, 6-7 WF, Lynwood (CA) correspondence – SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

13.Brook Lopez, 7-0 BF/C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

14.Earl Clark, 6-9 WF, Rahway (NJ) High- LOUISVILLE

15.Paul Harris, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- SYRACUSE

16.Daequan Cook, 6-5 WG, Dayton (OH) Dunbar- OHIO STATE

17.Javaris Crittenton, 6-4 PG/WG, Atlanta (GA) Southwest Atlanta Christian- GEORGIA TECH

18.Quincy Pondexter, 6-7 WF, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- WASHINGTON

19.Stanley Robinson, 6-9 WF/BF, Birmingham (AL) Huffman- CONNECTICUT

20.Lance Thomas, 6-8 BF, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- DUKE

21.Damion James, 6-7 WF/BF, Nacogdoches (TX) High- TEXAS

22.Robin Lopez, 7-0 C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

23.Jon Scheyer, 6-5 WG, Northbrook (IL) Glenbrook North- DUKE

24.Vernon Macklin, 6-9 BF/C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- GEORGETOWN

25.Derrick Caracter, 6-9 BF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- LOUISVILLE

26.Mike Conley, Jr., 6-0 PG, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

27.David Lighty, 6-5 WF/WG, Cleveland (OH) St. Joseph- OHIO STATE

28.Alex Stepheson, 6-9 BF/C, North Hollywood (CA) Harvard Westlake- NORTH CAROLINA

29.James Keefe, 6-8 BF, Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) High- UCLA

30.Jerome Dyson, 6-3 WG/PG, Andover (NH) Proctor- CONNECTICUT

31.Deon Thompson, 6-8 C/BF, Torrance (CA) High- NORTH CAROLINA

32.DeShawn Sims, 6-7 BF/WF, Detroit (MI) Pershing- MICHIGAN

33.Ramar Smith, 6-2 WG, Detroit (MI) King- TENNESSEE

34.DaJuan Summers, 6-8 BF/WF, Owings Mills (MD) McDonough- GEORGETOWN

35.Raymar Morgan, 6-7 WF, Canton (OH) McKinley- MICHIGAN STATE

36.Curtis Kelly, 6-9 BF, Manhattan (NY) Rice- CONNECTICUT

37.Willie Kemp, 6-2 PG/WG, Bolivar (TN) Central- MEMPHIS

38.D.J. Augustin, 5-11 PG, Sugarland (TX) Hightower- TEXAS

39.Mike Washington, 6-9 BF, Mendenhall (MS) Genesis One- ARKANSAS

40.Brian Carlwell, 6-11 C, Maywood (IL) Proviso East- ILLINOIS

41.Patrick Christopher, 6-4 WG, Compton (CA) Dominguez- CALIFORNIA

42.Duke Crews, 6-6 BF, Hampton (VA) Bethel- TENNESSEE

43.Derrick Jasper, 6-5 WG/PG, Paso Robles (CA) High- KENTUCKY

44.Bryan Davis, 6-9 BF, Grand Prairie (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

45.Wayne Chism, 6-9 BF/C, Bolivar (TN) Central- TENNESSEE

46.Mike Jones, 6-6 WF, Hopkins (SC) Lower Richland- SYRACUSE

47.Keith Clark, 6-8 BF, Oklahoma City (OK) Putnam City- OKLAHOMA

48.Obi Muonelo, 6-4 WG, Edmond (OK) Sante Fe- OKLAHOMA STATE

49.Anthony Gurley, 6-3 WG, Newtonville (MA) Newton North- WAKE FOREST

50.Eugene Harvey, 5-11 PG, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- SETON HALL

51.Jamil Tucker, 6-8 BF/WF, Gary (IN) West Side- VIRGINIA

52.Jason Bennett, 7-2 C, Jacksonville (FL) Arlington Country Day- KANSAS STATE

53.Scotty Reynolds, 6-0 WG, Herndon (VA) High- VILLANOVA

54.Jerry Smith, 6-3 WG, Wauwatosa (WI) East- LOUISVILLE

55.Doug Wiggins, 5-11 PG, Hartford (CT) East- CONNECTICUT

56.Jon Kreft, 7-0 C, Parkland (FL) Douglas- Junior college/Jail

57.Taj Gibson, 6-9 BF, La Verne (CA) Calvary Baptist- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

58.Leon Freeman, 6-4 WG, Belleville (MI) High- Prep/JUCO

59.Jason Bohannon, 6-3 WG/PG, Marion (IA) Linn-Mar- WISCONSIN

60.Brian Zoubek, 7-1 C, Cherry Hill (NJ) Haddonfield Memorial- DUKE

61.Perry Stevenson, 6-9 BF, Lafayette (LA) Northside- KENTUCKY

62.Tyler Smith, 6-6 WF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- IOWA

63.Lazar Hayward, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- MARQUETTE

64.Gilbert Brown, 6-5 WF, South Kent (CT) Prep- PITTSBRGH

65.Isaiah Dahlman, 6-6 WF/WG, Braham (MN) High- MICHIGAN STATE

66.Phil Nelson, 6-8 WF/BF, Kaiser (OR) McNary- WASHINGTON

67.Jodie Meeks, 6-3 WG/PG, Norcross (GA) High- KENTUCKY

68.Jamie Skeen, 6-7 BF/WF, Huntersville (NC) North Mecklenburg- WAKE FOREST

69.Nigel Munson, 6-0 PG, Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha- VIRGINIA TECH

70.Hasheem Thabeet, 7-2 C, Cypress (TX) Christian- Undecided

71.Donald Sloan, 6-3 WG, Seagoville (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

72.Marques Johnson, 6-4 WG/PG, Ft. Wayne (IN) Snider- TENNESSEE

73.Tory Jackson, 5-10 PG, Saginaw (MI) Buena Vista- NOTRE DAME

74.Keaton Grant, 6-3 WG/PG, Bridgton (ME) Prep- PURDUE

75.Tyrone Appleton, 6-2 WG/PG, Cincinnati (OH) Harmony- VIRGINIA TECH

76.Demond Carter, 5-10 PG/WG, Laplace (LA) Reserve Christian- BAYLOR

77.Josh Lomers, 7-0 C, Boerne (TX) High- BAYLOR

78.Russell Westbrook, 6-2 WG/PG, Los Angeles (CA) Leuzinger- UCLA

79.Patrick Beverly, 6-2 WG, Chicago (IL) Marshall- ARKANSAS

80.Daniel Deane, 6-8 BF, Salt Lake City (UT) Judge Memorial- UTAH

81.Bryce Webster, 6-9 BF/C, Mendota Heights (MN) St. Thomas- MINNESOTA

82.Marreese Speights, 6-10 BF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- FLORIDA

[b]83.Curtis Eatmon, 6-3 PG/WG, Los Osos (CA) High- UTAH

84.Matt Bouldin, 6-5 WG, Highlands Ranch (CO) Thunder Ridge- GONZAGA

85.Edgar Sosa, 6-2 WG/PG, Manhattan (NY) Rice- LOUISVILLE

86.Doneal Mack, 6-4 WG, Statesville (NC) Christian- FLORIDA

87.Dan Werner, 6-7 WF, Lincroft (NJ) Christian Brothers- Undecided

88.Adrion Graves, 6-4 WG/WF, Cincinnati (OH) Hughes- XAVIER

89.Jordan Hill, 6-9 BF/C, Lenoir (NC) Patterson School- ARIZONA

90.L.D. Williams, 6-4 WG/WF, Montverde (FL) Academy- WAKE FOREST

91.Tom Herzog, 7-0 C, Flint (MI) Powers- MICHIGAN STATE

92.Rob Thomas, 6-6 WF/BF, South Kent (CT) Prep- ST. JOHN’S

93.Matt Hill, 6-10 BF, Lincoln (NE) Southeast- TEXAS

94.DeSean Butler, 6-6 WF, Bloomfield (NJ) Tech- WEST VIRGINIA

95.Djibril Thiam, 6-8 WF, Tierra Rejada (CA) Stoneridge Prep- BAYLOR

96.Nic Wise, 5-9 PG, Kingwood (TX) High- ARIZONA

97.Antonio Pena, 6-8 BF, Oakdale (CT) St. Thomas More- VILLANOVA

98.Bobby Maze, 6-2 WG/PG, Lenoir (NC) Patterson- OKLAHOMA

99.John Mandeldove, 6-11 C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- CONNECTICUT

100.Isacc Miles, 6-2 PG/WG, Shawnee Mission (KS) Bishop Miege- CREIGHTON

[badndn]

Since Roc got back on campus he has recruited & signed a handfull of hyped players and had success with most.

A. Daniels was one of the best scorers ever at Lamar.

T. Fairley was a double/double guy.

L. Sanders was every bit as good as the hype.

J. Davis was not a bust due to his play, but the attitude so the hype was legit.

K. Dawkins is maybe the best guard we have had since the Tubbs era.

J. Nabors is a SLC POY candidate (save for the injury).

J. Brown has had his moments so far, but it looks like we will find out for sure this year with Nabors out!

C. Todd did exactly what he was hyped up to do at LU, quality minutes as a 6th man.

I think that the problem is that the hyped players are JUCO guys that are only here for a short period. While I love the players, I think the lack of signing high ranking HS "Studs" has been the biggest reason for the lack of an NCAA birth. Continuity over four years does stand for something at the low major level.

[Guest coachacola]

I think the great success Tubbs and Foster had 20 to 30 years ago still affect how we view the recruiting classes today.  It only takes 2 or 3 great players to propel a team to the NCAAs and maybe win a game or two.  There's probably a lot of old-school fans like myself waiting for that to happen again so we get carried away with they hype.  I admit it, but I don't care.  I enjoy the expectations of a great season, even though the season usually ends in disappointment.

With Lamar's first football recruiting class coming soon, I look forward to talking about the over-hyped players that Woodard brings in!!

[BLUEDOVE3]

CLASS OF 2006 FINAL TOP 100

1.Greg Oden, 7-0 C, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

2.Kevin Durant, 6-10 WF, Rockville (MD) Montrose Christian- TEXAS

3.Thaddeus Young, 6-8 WF, Memphis (TN) Mitchell- GEORGIA TECH

4.Chase Budinger, 6-8 WF, Carlsbad (CA) La Costa Canyon- ARIZONA

5.Brandan Wright, 6-9 BF, Brentwood (TN) Academy- NORTH CAROLINA

6.Spencer Hawes, 6-11 C/BF, Seattle (WA) Prep- WASHINGTON

7.Gerald Henderson, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- DUKE

8.Sherron Collins, 5-11 PG, Chicago (IL) Crane- KANSAS

9.Tywon Lawson, 5-11 PG, Mouth of Wilson (VA) Oak Hill- NORTH CAROLINA

10.Darrell Arthur, 6-9 BF, Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff- KANSAS

11.Wayne Ellington, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- NORTH CAROLINA

12.Davon Jefferson, 6-7 WF, Lynwood (CA) correspondence – SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

13.Brook Lopez, 7-0 BF/C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

14.Earl Clark, 6-9 WF, Rahway (NJ) High- LOUISVILLE

15.Paul Harris, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- SYRACUSE

16.Daequan Cook, 6-5 WG, Dayton (OH) Dunbar- OHIO STATE

17.Javaris Crittenton, 6-4 PG/WG, Atlanta (GA) Southwest Atlanta Christian- GEORGIA TECH

18.Quincy Pondexter, 6-7 WF, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- WASHINGTON

19.Stanley Robinson, 6-9 WF/BF, Birmingham (AL) Huffman- CONNECTICUT

20.Lance Thomas, 6-8 BF, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- DUKE

21.Damion James, 6-7 WF/BF, Nacogdoches (TX) High- TEXAS

22.Robin Lopez, 7-0 C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD

23.Jon Scheyer, 6-5 WG, Northbrook (IL) Glenbrook North- DUKE

24.Vernon Macklin, 6-9 BF/C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- GEORGETOWN

25.Derrick Caracter, 6-9 BF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- LOUISVILLE

26.Mike Conley, Jr., 6-0 PG, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE

27.David Lighty, 6-5 WF/WG, Cleveland (OH) St. Joseph- OHIO STATE

28.Alex Stepheson, 6-9 BF/C, North Hollywood (CA) Harvard Westlake- NORTH CAROLINA

29.James Keefe, 6-8 BF, Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) High- UCLA

30.Jerome Dyson, 6-3 WG/PG, Andover (NH) Proctor- CONNECTICUT

31.Deon Thompson, 6-8 C/BF, Torrance (CA) High- NORTH CAROLINA

32.DeShawn Sims, 6-7 BF/WF, Detroit (MI) Pershing- MICHIGAN

33.Ramar Smith, 6-2 WG, Detroit (MI) King- TENNESSEE

34.DaJuan Summers, 6-8 BF/WF, Owings Mills (MD) McDonough- GEORGETOWN

35.Raymar Morgan, 6-7 WF, Canton (OH) McKinley- MICHIGAN STATE

36.Curtis Kelly, 6-9 BF, Manhattan (NY) Rice- CONNECTICUT

37.Willie Kemp, 6-2 PG/WG, Bolivar (TN) Central- MEMPHIS

38.D.J. Augustin, 5-11 PG, Sugarland (TX) Hightower- TEXAS

39.Mike Washington, 6-9 BF, Mendenhall (MS) Genesis One- ARKANSAS

40.Brian Carlwell, 6-11 C, Maywood (IL) Proviso East- ILLINOIS

41.Patrick Christopher, 6-4 WG, Compton (CA) Dominguez- CALIFORNIA

42.Duke Crews, 6-6 BF, Hampton (VA) Bethel- TENNESSEE

43.Derrick Jasper, 6-5 WG/PG, Paso Robles (CA) High- KENTUCKY

44.Bryan Davis, 6-9 BF, Grand Prairie (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

45.Wayne Chism, 6-9 BF/C, Bolivar (TN) Central- TENNESSEE

46.Mike Jones, 6-6 WF, Hopkins (SC) Lower Richland- SYRACUSE

47.Keith Clark, 6-8 BF, Oklahoma City (OK) Putnam City- OKLAHOMA

48.Obi Muonelo, 6-4 WG, Edmond (OK) Sante Fe- OKLAHOMA STATE

49.Anthony Gurley, 6-3 WG, Newtonville (MA) Newton North- WAKE FOREST

50.Eugene Harvey, 5-11 PG, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- SETON HALL

51.Jamil Tucker, 6-8 BF/WF, Gary (IN) West Side- VIRGINIA

52.Jason Bennett, 7-2 C, Jacksonville (FL) Arlington Country Day- KANSAS STATE

53.Scotty Reynolds, 6-0 WG, Herndon (VA) High- VILLANOVA

54.Jerry Smith, 6-3 WG, Wauwatosa (WI) East- LOUISVILLE

55.Doug Wiggins, 5-11 PG, Hartford (CT) East- CONNECTICUT

56.Jon Kreft, 7-0 C, Parkland (FL) Douglas- Junior college/Jail

57.Taj Gibson, 6-9 BF, La Verne (CA) Calvary Baptist- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

58.Leon Freeman, 6-4 WG, Belleville (MI) High- Prep/JUCO

59.Jason Bohannon, 6-3 WG/PG, Marion (IA) Linn-Mar- WISCONSIN

60.Brian Zoubek, 7-1 C, Cherry Hill (NJ) Haddonfield Memorial- DUKE

61.Perry Stevenson, 6-9 BF, Lafayette (LA) Northside- KENTUCKY

62.Tyler Smith, 6-6 WF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- IOWA

63.Lazar Hayward, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- MARQUETTE

64.Gilbert Brown, 6-5 WF, South Kent (CT) Prep- PITTSBRGH

65.Isaiah Dahlman, 6-6 WF/WG, Braham (MN) High- MICHIGAN STATE

66.Phil Nelson, 6-8 WF/BF, Kaiser (OR) McNary- WASHINGTON

67.Jodie Meeks, 6-3 WG/PG, Norcross (GA) High- KENTUCKY

68.Jamie Skeen, 6-7 BF/WF, Huntersville (NC) North Mecklenburg- WAKE FOREST

69.Nigel Munson, 6-0 PG, Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha- VIRGINIA TECH

70.Hasheem Thabeet, 7-2 C, Cypress (TX) Christian- Undecided

71.Donald Sloan, 6-3 WG, Seagoville (TX) High- TEXAS A&M

72.Marques Johnson, 6-4 WG/PG, Ft. Wayne (IN) Snider- TENNESSEE

73.Tory Jackson, 5-10 PG, Saginaw (MI) Buena Vista- NOTRE DAME

74.Keaton Grant, 6-3 WG/PG, Bridgton (ME) Prep- PURDUE

75.Tyrone Appleton, 6-2 WG/PG, Cincinnati (OH) Harmony- VIRGINIA TECH

76.Demond Carter, 5-10 PG/WG, Laplace (LA) Reserve Christian- BAYLOR

77.Josh Lomers, 7-0 C, Boerne (TX) High- BAYLOR

78.Russell Westbrook, 6-2 WG/PG, Los Angeles (CA) Leuzinger- UCLA

79.Patrick Beverly, 6-2 WG, Chicago (IL) Marshall- ARKANSAS

80.Daniel Deane, 6-8 BF, Salt Lake City (UT) Judge Memorial- UTAH

81.Bryce Webster, 6-9 BF/C, Mendota Heights (MN) St. Thomas- MINNESOTA

82.Marreese Speights, 6-10 BF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- FLORIDA

[b]83.Curtis Eatmon, 6-3 PG/WG, Los Osos (CA) High- UTAH

84.Matt Bouldin, 6-5 WG, Highlands Ranch (CO) Thunder Ridge- GONZAGA

85.Edgar Sosa, 6-2 WG/PG, Manhattan (NY) Rice- LOUISVILLE

86.Doneal Mack, 6-4 WG, Statesville (NC) Christian- FLORIDA

87.Dan Werner, 6-7 WF, Lincroft (NJ) Christian Brothers- Undecided

88.Adrion Graves, 6-4 WG/WF, Cincinnati (OH) Hughes- XAVIER

89.Jordan Hill, 6-9 BF/C, Lenoir (NC) Patterson School- ARIZONA

90.L.D. Williams, 6-4 WG/WF, Montverde (FL) Academy- WAKE FOREST

91.Tom Herzog, 7-0 C, Flint (MI) Powers- MICHIGAN STATE

92.Rob Thomas, 6-6 WF/BF, South Kent (CT) Prep- ST. JOHN’S

93.Matt Hill, 6-10 BF, Lincoln (NE) Southeast- TEXAS

94.DeSean Butler, 6-6 WF, Bloomfield (NJ) Tech- WEST VIRGINIA

95.Djibril Thiam, 6-8 WF, Tierra Rejada (CA) Stoneridge Prep- BAYLOR

96.Nic Wise, 5-9 PG, Kingwood (TX) High- ARIZONA

97.Antonio Pena, 6-8 BF, Oakdale (CT) St. Thomas More- VILLANOVA

98.Bobby Maze, 6-2 WG/PG, Lenoir (NC) Patterson- OKLAHOMA

99.John Mandeldove, 6-11 C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- CONNECTICUT

100.Isacc Miles, 6-2 PG/WG, Shawnee Mission (KS) Bishop Miege- CREIGHTON

Let me clear my throat! Utah let the kid go because he was not good enough to play at that level. The #300 ranking from Hoops Scoop was fair. They gave his scholarship to a walk-on player................ Also, there was a kid (pg?sg?) from the Clear Lake area that LU supposely was going to sign. LU hyped this kid up a few months ago. This kid was no good too. My point is this: I'm not saying these kids can't ball, but LU is very good hyping these kids up and most of it is just hype.

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I think the great success Tubbs and Foster had 20 to 30 years ago still affect how we view the recruiting classes today.  It only takes 2 or 3 great players to propel a team to the NCAAs and maybe win a game or two.   There's probably a lot of old-school fans like myself waiting for that to happen again so we get carried away with they hype.  I admit it, but I don't care.  I enjoy the expectations of a great season, even though the season usually ends in disappointment.

With Lamar's first football recruiting class coming soon, I look forward to talking about the over-hyped players that Woodard brings in!!

Tubbs and Foster were blessed in a time when grades didn't matter as much, and less competition from video games. Plus, every kid with a serious game wants to play on the big stage. The kid from HJ (two seasons ago) is a prime example. Too many kids get the hype but don't realize their skills (mental & physical)don't transfer into big time D-1 players.