badndn Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Tubbs and Foster were blessed in a time when grades didn't matter as much, and less competition from video games. Plus, every kid with a serious game wants to play on the big stage. The kid from HJ (two seasons ago) is a prime example. Too many kids get the hype but don't realize their skills (mental & physical)don't transfer into big time D-1 players. Are you talking about Ryan Donahoe from HJ, who led his team to a state title?
BLUEDOVE3 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Tubbs and Foster were blessed in a time when grades didn't matter as much, and less competition from video games. Plus, every kid with a serious game wants to play on the big stage. The kid from HJ (two seasons ago) is a prime example. Too many kids get the hype but don't realize their skills (mental & physical)don't transfer into big time D-1 players. Are you talking about Ryan Donahoe from HJ, who led his team to a state title? Or kids like him in similar situations.
Guest abovetherim Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 CLASS OF 2006 FINAL TOP 100 1.Greg Oden, 7-0 C, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE 2.Kevin Durant, 6-10 WF, Rockville (MD) Montrose Christian- TEXAS 3.Thaddeus Young, 6-8 WF, Memphis (TN) Mitchell- GEORGIA TECH 4.Chase Budinger, 6-8 WF, Carlsbad (CA) La Costa Canyon- ARIZONA 5.Brandan Wright, 6-9 BF, Brentwood (TN) Academy- NORTH CAROLINA 6.Spencer Hawes, 6-11 C/BF, Seattle (WA) Prep- WASHINGTON 7.Gerald Henderson, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- DUKE 8.Sherron Collins, 5-11 PG, Chicago (IL) Crane- KANSAS 9.Tywon Lawson, 5-11 PG, Mouth of Wilson (VA) Oak Hill- NORTH CAROLINA 10.Darrell Arthur, 6-9 BF, Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff- KANSAS 11.Wayne Ellington, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- NORTH CAROLINA 12.Davon Jefferson, 6-7 WF, Lynwood (CA) correspondence – SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 13.Brook Lopez, 7-0 BF/C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD 14.Earl Clark, 6-9 WF, Rahway (NJ) High- LOUISVILLE 15.Paul Harris, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- SYRACUSE 16.Daequan Cook, 6-5 WG, Dayton (OH) Dunbar- OHIO STATE 17.Javaris Crittenton, 6-4 PG/WG, Atlanta (GA) Southwest Atlanta Christian- GEORGIA TECH 18.Quincy Pondexter, 6-7 WF, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- WASHINGTON 19.Stanley Robinson, 6-9 WF/BF, Birmingham (AL) Huffman- CONNECTICUT 20.Lance Thomas, 6-8 BF, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- DUKE 21.Damion James, 6-7 WF/BF, Nacogdoches (TX) High- TEXAS 22.Robin Lopez, 7-0 C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD 23.Jon Scheyer, 6-5 WG, Northbrook (IL) Glenbrook North- DUKE 24.Vernon Macklin, 6-9 BF/C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- GEORGETOWN 25.Derrick Caracter, 6-9 BF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- LOUISVILLE 26.Mike Conley, Jr., 6-0 PG, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE 27.David Lighty, 6-5 WF/WG, Cleveland (OH) St. Joseph- OHIO STATE 28.Alex Stepheson, 6-9 BF/C, North Hollywood (CA) Harvard Westlake- NORTH CAROLINA 29.James Keefe, 6-8 BF, Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) High- UCLA 30.Jerome Dyson, 6-3 WG/PG, Andover (NH) Proctor- CONNECTICUT 31.Deon Thompson, 6-8 C/BF, Torrance (CA) High- NORTH CAROLINA 32.DeShawn Sims, 6-7 BF/WF, Detroit (MI) Pershing- MICHIGAN 33.Ramar Smith, 6-2 WG, Detroit (MI) King- TENNESSEE 34.DaJuan Summers, 6-8 BF/WF, Owings Mills (MD) McDonough- GEORGETOWN 35.Raymar Morgan, 6-7 WF, Canton (OH) McKinley- MICHIGAN STATE 36.Curtis Kelly, 6-9 BF, Manhattan (NY) Rice- CONNECTICUT 37.Willie Kemp, 6-2 PG/WG, Bolivar (TN) Central- MEMPHIS 38.D.J. Augustin, 5-11 PG, Sugarland (TX) Hightower- TEXAS 39.Mike Washington, 6-9 BF, Mendenhall (MS) Genesis One- ARKANSAS 40.Brian Carlwell, 6-11 C, Maywood (IL) Proviso East- ILLINOIS 41.Patrick Christopher, 6-4 WG, Compton (CA) Dominguez- CALIFORNIA 42.Duke Crews, 6-6 BF, Hampton (VA) Bethel- TENNESSEE 43.Derrick Jasper, 6-5 WG/PG, Paso Robles (CA) High- KENTUCKY 44.Bryan Davis, 6-9 BF, Grand Prairie (TX) High- TEXAS A&M 45.Wayne Chism, 6-9 BF/C, Bolivar (TN) Central- TENNESSEE 46.Mike Jones, 6-6 WF, Hopkins (SC) Lower Richland- SYRACUSE 47.Keith Clark, 6-8 BF, Oklahoma City (OK) Putnam City- OKLAHOMA 48.Obi Muonelo, 6-4 WG, Edmond (OK) Sante Fe- OKLAHOMA STATE 49.Anthony Gurley, 6-3 WG, Newtonville (MA) Newton North- WAKE FOREST 50.Eugene Harvey, 5-11 PG, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- SETON HALL 51.Jamil Tucker, 6-8 BF/WF, Gary (IN) West Side- VIRGINIA 52.Jason Bennett, 7-2 C, Jacksonville (FL) Arlington Country Day- KANSAS STATE 53.Scotty Reynolds, 6-0 WG, Herndon (VA) High- VILLANOVA 54.Jerry Smith, 6-3 WG, Wauwatosa (WI) East- LOUISVILLE 55.Doug Wiggins, 5-11 PG, Hartford (CT) East- CONNECTICUT 56.Jon Kreft, 7-0 C, Parkland (FL) Douglas- Junior college/Jail 57.Taj Gibson, 6-9 BF, La Verne (CA) Calvary Baptist- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 58.Leon Freeman, 6-4 WG, Belleville (MI) High- Prep/JUCO 59.Jason Bohannon, 6-3 WG/PG, Marion (IA) Linn-Mar- WISCONSIN 60.Brian Zoubek, 7-1 C, Cherry Hill (NJ) Haddonfield Memorial- DUKE 61.Perry Stevenson, 6-9 BF, Lafayette (LA) Northside- KENTUCKY 62.Tyler Smith, 6-6 WF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- IOWA 63.Lazar Hayward, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- MARQUETTE 64.Gilbert Brown, 6-5 WF, South Kent (CT) Prep- PITTSBRGH 65.Isaiah Dahlman, 6-6 WF/WG, Braham (MN) High- MICHIGAN STATE 66.Phil Nelson, 6-8 WF/BF, Kaiser (OR) McNary- WASHINGTON 67.Jodie Meeks, 6-3 WG/PG, Norcross (GA) High- KENTUCKY 68.Jamie Skeen, 6-7 BF/WF, Huntersville (NC) North Mecklenburg- WAKE FOREST 69.Nigel Munson, 6-0 PG, Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha- VIRGINIA TECH 70.Hasheem Thabeet, 7-2 C, Cypress (TX) Christian- Undecided 71.Donald Sloan, 6-3 WG, Seagoville (TX) High- TEXAS A&M 72.Marques Johnson, 6-4 WG/PG, Ft. Wayne (IN) Snider- TENNESSEE 73.Tory Jackson, 5-10 PG, Saginaw (MI) Buena Vista- NOTRE DAME 74.Keaton Grant, 6-3 WG/PG, Bridgton (ME) Prep- PURDUE 75.Tyrone Appleton, 6-2 WG/PG, Cincinnati (OH) Harmony- VIRGINIA TECH 76.Demond Carter, 5-10 PG/WG, Laplace (LA) Reserve Christian- BAYLOR 77.Josh Lomers, 7-0 C, Boerne (TX) High- BAYLOR 78.Russell Westbrook, 6-2 WG/PG, Los Angeles (CA) Leuzinger- UCLA 79.Patrick Beverly, 6-2 WG, Chicago (IL) Marshall- ARKANSAS 80.Daniel Deane, 6-8 BF, Salt Lake City (UT) Judge Memorial- UTAH 81.Bryce Webster, 6-9 BF/C, Mendota Heights (MN) St. Thomas- MINNESOTA 82.Marreese Speights, 6-10 BF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- FLORIDA [b]83.Curtis Eatmon, 6-3 PG/WG, Los Osos (CA) High- UTAH 84.Matt Bouldin, 6-5 WG, Highlands Ranch (CO) Thunder Ridge- GONZAGA 85.Edgar Sosa, 6-2 WG/PG, Manhattan (NY) Rice- LOUISVILLE 86.Doneal Mack, 6-4 WG, Statesville (NC) Christian- FLORIDA 87.Dan Werner, 6-7 WF, Lincroft (NJ) Christian Brothers- Undecided 88.Adrion Graves, 6-4 WG/WF, Cincinnati (OH) Hughes- XAVIER 89.Jordan Hill, 6-9 BF/C, Lenoir (NC) Patterson School- ARIZONA 90.L.D. Williams, 6-4 WG/WF, Montverde (FL) Academy- WAKE FOREST 91.Tom Herzog, 7-0 C, Flint (MI) Powers- MICHIGAN STATE 92.Rob Thomas, 6-6 WF/BF, South Kent (CT) Prep- ST. JOHN’S 93.Matt Hill, 6-10 BF, Lincoln (NE) Southeast- TEXAS 94.DeSean Butler, 6-6 WF, Bloomfield (NJ) Tech- WEST VIRGINIA 95.Djibril Thiam, 6-8 WF, Tierra Rejada (CA) Stoneridge Prep- BAYLOR 96.Nic Wise, 5-9 PG, Kingwood (TX) High- ARIZONA 97.Antonio Pena, 6-8 BF, Oakdale (CT) St. Thomas More- VILLANOVA 98.Bobby Maze, 6-2 WG/PG, Lenoir (NC) Patterson- OKLAHOMA 99.John Mandeldove, 6-11 C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- CONNECTICUT 100.Isacc Miles, 6-2 PG/WG, Shawnee Mission (KS) Bishop Miege- CREIGHTON Let me clear my throat! Utah let the kid go because he was not good enough to play at that level. The #300 ranking from Hoops Scoop was fair. They gave his scholarship to a walk-on player................ Also, there was a kid (pg?sg?) from the Clear Lake area that LU supposely was going to sign. LU hyped this kid up a few months ago. This kid was no good too. My point is this: I'm not saying these kids can't ball, but LU is very good hyping these kids up and most of it is just hype. Okay, this is my last reply on this topic. I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall here. I've spent spent about 1 hr googling information about Curtis Eatmon. I have never seen information where Utah "let this kid go". Please provide a link or something to make your claim valid. I believe he wasn't happy at Utah and decided to leave.
BLUEDOVE3 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 CLASS OF 2006 FINAL TOP 100 1.Greg Oden, 7-0 C, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE 2.Kevin Durant, 6-10 WF, Rockville (MD) Montrose Christian- TEXAS 3.Thaddeus Young, 6-8 WF, Memphis (TN) Mitchell- GEORGIA TECH 4.Chase Budinger, 6-8 WF, Carlsbad (CA) La Costa Canyon- ARIZONA 5.Brandan Wright, 6-9 BF, Brentwood (TN) Academy- NORTH CAROLINA 6.Spencer Hawes, 6-11 C/BF, Seattle (WA) Prep- WASHINGTON 7.Gerald Henderson, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- DUKE 8.Sherron Collins, 5-11 PG, Chicago (IL) Crane- KANSAS 9.Tywon Lawson, 5-11 PG, Mouth of Wilson (VA) Oak Hill- NORTH CAROLINA 10.Darrell Arthur, 6-9 BF, Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff- KANSAS 11.Wayne Ellington, 6-5 WG, Merion Station (PA) Episcopal- NORTH CAROLINA 12.Davon Jefferson, 6-7 WF, Lynwood (CA) correspondence – SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 13.Brook Lopez, 7-0 BF/C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD 14.Earl Clark, 6-9 WF, Rahway (NJ) High- LOUISVILLE 15.Paul Harris, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- SYRACUSE 16.Daequan Cook, 6-5 WG, Dayton (OH) Dunbar- OHIO STATE 17.Javaris Crittenton, 6-4 PG/WG, Atlanta (GA) Southwest Atlanta Christian- GEORGIA TECH 18.Quincy Pondexter, 6-7 WF, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- WASHINGTON 19.Stanley Robinson, 6-9 WF/BF, Birmingham (AL) Huffman- CONNECTICUT 20.Lance Thomas, 6-8 BF, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- DUKE 21.Damion James, 6-7 WF/BF, Nacogdoches (TX) High- TEXAS 22.Robin Lopez, 7-0 C, Fresno (CA) San Joaquin Memorial- STANFORD 23.Jon Scheyer, 6-5 WG, Northbrook (IL) Glenbrook North- DUKE 24.Vernon Macklin, 6-9 BF/C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- GEORGETOWN 25.Derrick Caracter, 6-9 BF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- LOUISVILLE 26.Mike Conley, Jr., 6-0 PG, Indianapolis (IN) Lawrence North- OHIO STATE 27.David Lighty, 6-5 WF/WG, Cleveland (OH) St. Joseph- OHIO STATE 28.Alex Stepheson, 6-9 BF/C, North Hollywood (CA) Harvard Westlake- NORTH CAROLINA 29.James Keefe, 6-8 BF, Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) High- UCLA 30.Jerome Dyson, 6-3 WG/PG, Andover (NH) Proctor- CONNECTICUT 31.Deon Thompson, 6-8 C/BF, Torrance (CA) High- NORTH CAROLINA 32.DeShawn Sims, 6-7 BF/WF, Detroit (MI) Pershing- MICHIGAN 33.Ramar Smith, 6-2 WG, Detroit (MI) King- TENNESSEE 34.DaJuan Summers, 6-8 BF/WF, Owings Mills (MD) McDonough- GEORGETOWN 35.Raymar Morgan, 6-7 WF, Canton (OH) McKinley- MICHIGAN STATE 36.Curtis Kelly, 6-9 BF, Manhattan (NY) Rice- CONNECTICUT 37.Willie Kemp, 6-2 PG/WG, Bolivar (TN) Central- MEMPHIS 38.D.J. Augustin, 5-11 PG, Sugarland (TX) Hightower- TEXAS 39.Mike Washington, 6-9 BF, Mendenhall (MS) Genesis One- ARKANSAS 40.Brian Carlwell, 6-11 C, Maywood (IL) Proviso East- ILLINOIS 41.Patrick Christopher, 6-4 WG, Compton (CA) Dominguez- CALIFORNIA 42.Duke Crews, 6-6 BF, Hampton (VA) Bethel- TENNESSEE 43.Derrick Jasper, 6-5 WG/PG, Paso Robles (CA) High- KENTUCKY 44.Bryan Davis, 6-9 BF, Grand Prairie (TX) High- TEXAS A&M 45.Wayne Chism, 6-9 BF/C, Bolivar (TN) Central- TENNESSEE 46.Mike Jones, 6-6 WF, Hopkins (SC) Lower Richland- SYRACUSE 47.Keith Clark, 6-8 BF, Oklahoma City (OK) Putnam City- OKLAHOMA 48.Obi Muonelo, 6-4 WG, Edmond (OK) Sante Fe- OKLAHOMA STATE 49.Anthony Gurley, 6-3 WG, Newtonville (MA) Newton North- WAKE FOREST 50.Eugene Harvey, 5-11 PG, Newark (NJ) St. Benedict’s- SETON HALL 51.Jamil Tucker, 6-8 BF/WF, Gary (IN) West Side- VIRGINIA 52.Jason Bennett, 7-2 C, Jacksonville (FL) Arlington Country Day- KANSAS STATE 53.Scotty Reynolds, 6-0 WG, Herndon (VA) High- VILLANOVA 54.Jerry Smith, 6-3 WG, Wauwatosa (WI) East- LOUISVILLE 55.Doug Wiggins, 5-11 PG, Hartford (CT) East- CONNECTICUT 56.Jon Kreft, 7-0 C, Parkland (FL) Douglas- Junior college/Jail 57.Taj Gibson, 6-9 BF, La Verne (CA) Calvary Baptist- SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA 58.Leon Freeman, 6-4 WG, Belleville (MI) High- Prep/JUCO 59.Jason Bohannon, 6-3 WG/PG, Marion (IA) Linn-Mar- WISCONSIN 60.Brian Zoubek, 7-1 C, Cherry Hill (NJ) Haddonfield Memorial- DUKE 61.Perry Stevenson, 6-9 BF, Lafayette (LA) Northside- KENTUCKY 62.Tyler Smith, 6-6 WF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- IOWA 63.Lazar Hayward, 6-5 WG/WF, Fitchburg (MA) Notre Dame- MARQUETTE 64.Gilbert Brown, 6-5 WF, South Kent (CT) Prep- PITTSBRGH 65.Isaiah Dahlman, 6-6 WF/WG, Braham (MN) High- MICHIGAN STATE 66.Phil Nelson, 6-8 WF/BF, Kaiser (OR) McNary- WASHINGTON 67.Jodie Meeks, 6-3 WG/PG, Norcross (GA) High- KENTUCKY 68.Jamie Skeen, 6-7 BF/WF, Huntersville (NC) North Mecklenburg- WAKE FOREST 69.Nigel Munson, 6-0 PG, Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha- VIRGINIA TECH 70.Hasheem Thabeet, 7-2 C, Cypress (TX) Christian- Undecided 71.Donald Sloan, 6-3 WG, Seagoville (TX) High- TEXAS A&M 72.Marques Johnson, 6-4 WG/PG, Ft. Wayne (IN) Snider- TENNESSEE 73.Tory Jackson, 5-10 PG, Saginaw (MI) Buena Vista- NOTRE DAME 74.Keaton Grant, 6-3 WG/PG, Bridgton (ME) Prep- PURDUE 75.Tyrone Appleton, 6-2 WG/PG, Cincinnati (OH) Harmony- VIRGINIA TECH 76.Demond Carter, 5-10 PG/WG, Laplace (LA) Reserve Christian- BAYLOR 77.Josh Lomers, 7-0 C, Boerne (TX) High- BAYLOR 78.Russell Westbrook, 6-2 WG/PG, Los Angeles (CA) Leuzinger- UCLA 79.Patrick Beverly, 6-2 WG, Chicago (IL) Marshall- ARKANSAS 80.Daniel Deane, 6-8 BF, Salt Lake City (UT) Judge Memorial- UTAH 81.Bryce Webster, 6-9 BF/C, Mendota Heights (MN) St. Thomas- MINNESOTA 82.Marreese Speights, 6-10 BF, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- FLORIDA [b]83.Curtis Eatmon, 6-3 PG/WG, Los Osos (CA) High- UTAH 84.Matt Bouldin, 6-5 WG, Highlands Ranch (CO) Thunder Ridge- GONZAGA 85.Edgar Sosa, 6-2 WG/PG, Manhattan (NY) Rice- LOUISVILLE 86.Doneal Mack, 6-4 WG, Statesville (NC) Christian- FLORIDA 87.Dan Werner, 6-7 WF, Lincroft (NJ) Christian Brothers- Undecided 88.Adrion Graves, 6-4 WG/WF, Cincinnati (OH) Hughes- XAVIER 89.Jordan Hill, 6-9 BF/C, Lenoir (NC) Patterson School- ARIZONA 90.L.D. Williams, 6-4 WG/WF, Montverde (FL) Academy- WAKE FOREST 91.Tom Herzog, 7-0 C, Flint (MI) Powers- MICHIGAN STATE 92.Rob Thomas, 6-6 WF/BF, South Kent (CT) Prep- ST. JOHN’S 93.Matt Hill, 6-10 BF, Lincoln (NE) Southeast- TEXAS 94.DeSean Butler, 6-6 WF, Bloomfield (NJ) Tech- WEST VIRGINIA 95.Djibril Thiam, 6-8 WF, Tierra Rejada (CA) Stoneridge Prep- BAYLOR 96.Nic Wise, 5-9 PG, Kingwood (TX) High- ARIZONA 97.Antonio Pena, 6-8 BF, Oakdale (CT) St. Thomas More- VILLANOVA 98.Bobby Maze, 6-2 WG/PG, Lenoir (NC) Patterson- OKLAHOMA 99.John Mandeldove, 6-11 C, Chatham (VA) Hargrave- CONNECTICUT 100.Isacc Miles, 6-2 PG/WG, Shawnee Mission (KS) Bishop Miege- CREIGHTON Let me clear my throat! Utah let the kid go because he was not good enough to play at that level. The #300 ranking from Hoops Scoop was fair. They gave his scholarship to a walk-on player................ Also, there was a kid (pg?sg?) from the Clear Lake area that LU supposely was going to sign. LU hyped this kid up a few months ago. This kid was no good too. My point is this: I'm not saying these kids can't ball, but LU is very good hyping these kids up and most of it is just hype. Okay, this is my last reply on this topic. I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall here. I've spent spent about 1 hr googling information about Curtis Eatmon. I have never seen information where Utah "let this kid go". Please provide a link or something to make your claim valid. I believe he wasn't happy at Utah and decided to leave. Here is a little teaser from the Salt Lake Tribune...sheez! This is no fun, you're giving up too soon Rim. Utes Basketball: by Michael C. Lewis Monday, January 07, 2008 Utes Release Eatmon From His Scholarship We knew it was coming, and finally it happened. The Utes have released point guard Curtis Eatmon from his scholarship. Coach Jim Boylen announced the move at his weekly press conference today, and insisted that it did not come because Eatmon has been injured all year, but because the coaches don't believe he's good enough to contribute. "I didn't feel it was fair to keep him, for another two years, on my roster, when his opportunity would not be there in my mind," Boylen said. "I think that's fair." The Utes had long planned for Eatmon not to return next season, after the sophomore had not impressed them during their summertime exhibition tour in Australia. The plan became more clear when Eatmon was allowed to leave the team after fall semester classes concluded last month, in advance of the Dec. 20 surgery in Colorado (rather than Utah) that aimed to repair his troublesome hips.
Guest coachacola Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 And here's a response to that press release: Obviously, the family remains upbeat about Eatmon's recovery and potential -- though one thing they said jumped out at me. While coach Jim Boylen emphasized as his press conference today that Eatmon had never suffered a trauma to cause what he called the "condition" in his hip that ultimately required surgery, the family explained that Eatmon fell during a "pro-am" game in Salt Lake City during the summer and suffered a fracture that aggravated an impingement in his hip. And though I don't mean to stir the pot, there are a few other little remarks in the text that sound to me almost like veiled pokes at the support or care that Eatmon received with the Utes. But that's just me, guessing. Looks like his injury might played a bigger role in him leaving the team than what the coach is saying. Link: http://blogs.sltrib.com/utehoops/2008/01/family-addresses-eatmons-departure-from.htm
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