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I personally think this bickering back and forth is childish and should stop.  Is it possible to put a block on any more comments being made?  If so, Moderator, may I suggest that you do just that?

Like my mama used to say (may she rest in peace): if you can't say anything nice; then shut the he*l up!

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Wow, I can not believe I started a 7 page discussion. Let me clarify something. I do not push sports on my kids or live out my dreams and egos through them. I let them decide on what they want to play. The only rule I have is once they start they have to finish it out. Frankly, I tend to be scared of my kids playing football. One bad hit and they could be hurt for life. My son begged me to sign him up for football. He loves the QB position because he is a leader by nature and loves to be in charge. He has 3 or 4 professional QB idols and he studies the position. Everyday that I can I practice with him at this position. I snap the ball to him and run the pass routes. For 2 reasons I do not coach him. 1. my working hours do not allow it; 2. I prefer not to yell at my kid in front of his peers.  The problem I have is he wants to play this position but is not allowed to even tryout for it. The last 2 seasons the QB position was already taken before the practices even started.  I would not have such a problem with it if the coache's sons were really good at the position. All I was asking is give my kid a chance. This is what he dreams of, not me.  The other day after his practice I asked him if he wanted to quit and he yelled absolutely not. He loves the game and will have to accept playing whatever the coaches think is best for him. You do have to admire a kid for wanting something so bad he does not quit if he does not get his way, but will stick it out and wait for his chance.

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Unfortunatley most of the post on this board did not stay on your topic. That was my point 4 or 5 pages ago. Some people want to bash other opinions and change the subject.

Are you that Stupid Naturally or do you have to work at it.

...guess that makes one more that needs to answer that question. And, by the way, you should end a question with the appropriate punctuation...which is a question mark.  AND yes...that is meant to be a bash, there is no reason to insult anyone's intelligence for having an opinion that may be different than one's own.  I like what Queen B said.....and yes it applies to myself as well, if you can't say something nice...shut the h**l up!

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I have deleted several post, and modified other posts.  This is a youth football forum so I am assuming most of us are adults and parents of the youth that are playing football.  I would be a shame to lock the forum down due to the name calling , personall attacks and the cussing (using symbols is considered cussing on this web site) being used in these threads. Keep it civil, or not at all.

It would be great for everyone that has not done so to read the forum rules before posting, that way no one gets banned.

consider this a group warning.

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Dogsout, you have a legitimate gripe. You should go to that coach and ask him to give your son a shot. He could let your son run the scout offense. From my years of experience, the QB on a youth team has to be very tough, although athleticism can make up for a small lack of toughness. The qb gets hit alot especially if he is throwing. Offensive lines in youth leagues are usually very weak and it takes a toll on the qb. Not that your son would react like this but I had an instance where a mom told me I was waisting her sons talents that he could throw and he was "so fast". One day running the scout team and he asked to be taken out. Its a hard job and the pressure that comes with it is sometimes a little more that they can handle. Keep working with him even if the coach says no because when he gets into school ball, its more about winning and the better kids will rise to the top. Good luck......

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Wow, I can not believe I started a 7 page discussion. Let me clarify something. I do not push sports on my kids or live out my dreams and egos through them. I let them decide on what they want to play. The only rule I have is once they start they have to finish it out. Frankly, I tend to be scared of my kids playing football. One bad hit and they could be hurt for life. My son begged me to sign him up for football. He loves the QB position because he is a leader by nature and loves to be in charge. He has 3 or 4 professional QB idols and he studies the position. Everyday that I can I practice with him at this position. I snap the ball to him and run the pass routes. For 2 reasons I do not coach him. 1. my working hours do not allow it; 2. I prefer not to yell at my kid in front of his peers.  The problem I have is he wants to play this position but is not allowed to even tryout for it. The last 2 seasons the QB position was already taken before the practices even started.  I would not have such a problem with it if the coache's sons were really good at the position. All I was asking is give my kid a chance. This is what he dreams of, not me.  The other day after his practice I asked him if he wanted to quit and he yelled absolutely not. He loves the game and will have to accept playing whatever the coaches think is best for him. You do have to admire a kid for wanting something so bad he does not quit if he does not get his way, but will stick it out and wait for his chance.

I understand what you are getting across and some of us have just gotten off topic. But I'm not sure if you answered my question: Did you approach the coach or are you going to use a wait and see approach? Most coaches I know started coaching to give their kids a chance to play by building a team around their kids.
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Wholetdadogsout...I know I may be asking a question that you've previously answered, but have you or your child asked the coach about a shot at the position?  It could be that the coach doesn't realize that your child is interested in the position.  I know you said he wasn't allowed to even try out for it, but I am curious to know if the coach told you or your child that, or he just never gave any other kids the opportunity to try out for that position.  If so...shame on him, he should at least give your son the opportunity to try.

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I have deleted several post, and modified other posts.  This is a youth football forum so I am assuming most of us are adults and parents of the youth that are playing football.  I would be a shame to lock the forum down due to the name calling , personall attacks and the cussing (using symbols is considered cussing on this web site) being used in these threads. Keep it civil, or not at all.

It would be great for everyone that has not done so to read the forum rules before posting, that way no one gets banned.

consider this a group warning.

I personally feel like I was just reprimended like a child for using symbols instead of the actual word.  Sorry!  I was just quoting what my mama always said without actually saying the word.

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Wholetdadogsout...I know I may be asking a question that you've previously answered, but have you or your child asked the coach about a shot at the position?  It could be that the coach doesn't realize that your child is interested in the position.  I know you said he wasn't allowed to even try out for it, but I am curious to know if the coach told you or your child that, or he just never gave any other kids the opportunity to try out for that position.  If so...shame on him, he should at least give your son the opportunity to try.

Well, I think the whole conversation came about because of "daddyball" being a part of the issues. Isn't the coach's son the quarterback? And don't get me wrong, I have no problem with a coach's son playing a key position, as long as the son is the best player at that position. Which I have found not to be the case the majority of the times.
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Yes, I have on several occassions approached the coach about my son playing at the QB position. The only answer I have received is he will try and work him in. My son asked coach and his response was we have enough quarterbacks.

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This is the reason I've heard more dads say why they turned to coaching. To give their kids an opportunity.

I just tell my son to keep working on his dream and he will someday play for an unbiased coach (i.e. middle/high school) who will let him at least tryout for the position he wants to play.

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