jmspears3 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 SPLIT CONFERENCE FOOTBALL ALIGNMENT STUDY - DRAFT This is a draft of a plan that could split football conferences into two divisions. This is not a proposal by UIL staff, nor has it been approved by the UIL Legislative Council. The study of a split conference alignment plan for football is complete. This plan divides each conference into two divisions in football. The largest half of each conference is grouped into a division and the smaller half of the conference is divided into a separate division. The large school division has 16 districts and the smallest half of each conference has 16 districts. Approximately six to eight schools are placed into each district. The same number of schools from each district advance to the playoffs. Twelve champions would be crowned as is done currently. Possible Advantages: • Provides more clarity and less confusion regarding who is Division I and who is Division II. • Clearly defines divisions prior to the season rather than at the end of district play. • Creates more equity in relation to the largest and smallest school within a division. • Eliminates two schools with the largest enrollments in the state advancing to the playoffs in the smaller enrollment division. • Eliminates the smallest schools in a conference grouped with the largest schools in a conference. Possible Disadvantages: • Additional travel. • Other team sport activities could want the same division alignment. • Creates an additional group of schools that will be the smallest within a division. • Creates administrative inconvenience. • Scheduling issues could occur in multi-school districts that share stadiums. The UIL staff presented the concept to the Legislative Council in June and October. The Council authorized this study to provide information regarding the actual placement of schools into districts. This draft is for study purposes only and applies to football They tried this in 2008 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 SPLIT CONFERENCE FOOTBALL ALIGNMENT STUDY - DRAFT This is a draft of a plan that could split football conferences into two divisions. This is not a proposal by UIL staff, nor has it been approved by the UIL Legislative Council. The study of a split conference alignment plan for football is complete. This plan divides each conference into two divisions in football. The largest half of each conference is grouped into a division and the smaller half of the conference is divided into a separate division. The large school division has 16 districts and the smallest half of each conference has 16 districts. Approximately six to eight schools are placed into each district. The same number of schools from each district advance to the playoffs. Twelve champions would be crowned as is done currently. Possible Advantages: • Provides more clarity and less confusion regarding who is Division I and who is Division II. • Clearly defines divisions prior to the season rather than at the end of district play. • Creates more equity in relation to the largest and smallest school within a division. • Eliminates two schools with the largest enrollments in the state advancing to the playoffs in the smaller enrollment division. • Eliminates the smallest schools in a conference grouped with the largest schools in a conference. Possible Disadvantages: • Additional travel. • Other team sport activities could want the same division alignment. • Creates an additional group of schools that will be the smallest within a division. • Creates administrative inconvenience. • Scheduling issues could occur in multi-school districts that share stadiums. The UIL staff presented the concept to the Legislative Council in June and October. The Council authorized this study to provide information regarding the actual placement of schools into districts. This draft is for study purposes only and applies to football They tried this in 2008 also. With the way the economy is and how schools need to watch their budgets, this one disadvantage nips this idea in the bud. It will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFDM COOP Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 It will eventually. That's what the UIL wants and with Gas prices expected to drop some more it could happen. The vote last time was closer than i expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFDM COOP Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is what it would look like based off last Realignment, Minus Kirbyville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PURPLE 4EVER Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is what they were talking about last year... In 4A they would merger 19-4A and 20-4A. The larger schools would be in one district and the smaller schools in the other district. This would really help out Dayton because it would be between the current 19-4A and 20-4A, but schools on the outskirts of the district would travel much more, for instance, LC-M could be in the district with Galena Park, that is a long trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is what it would look like based off last Realignment, Minus Kirbyville Orangefield, Coldspring, WOS, Cleveland, and Splendora will have 2 hour one way travel for district games. That's ridiculous. That kind of travel is necessary out in West Texas, but not around here. I think the fact of having neighborhood districts is far more important than this "equaling" : the playing field concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam14 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is what it would look like based off last Realignment, Minus Kirbyville Orangefield, Coldspring, WOS, Cleveland, and Splendora will have 2 hour one way travel for district games. That's ridiculous. That kind of travel is necessary out in West Texas, but not around here. I think the fact of having neighborhood districts is far more important than this "equaling" : the playing field concept. I think it's unnecessary too, but it still happens. Livingston moves to district 20-4A this year to create a 2 hour drive for every school in the district and multiple drives for Livingston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECBucFan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 ....with Gas prices expected to drop some more it could happen. Anyone REALLY think gas will stay this cheap during the summer? Or the next 10 summers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDOSullivan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is what it would look like based off last Realignment, Minus Kirbyville Orangefield, Coldspring, WOS, Cleveland, and Splendora will have 2 hour one way travel for district games. That's ridiculous. That kind of travel is necessary out in West Texas, but not around here. I think the fact of having neighborhood districts is far more important than this "equaling" : the playing field concept. I have to agree, that is a heck of a travel budget, especially for basketball/baseball. I would hate to have to know I would get home on a Tuesday night at Midnight+ and have to be at school at 7:30am the next day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDOSullivan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Do you have a site where I can look at the 2A schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFDM COOP Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Check through this thread! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDOSullivan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Check through this thread! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Thanks Coop. The upper 2A, if Kirbyville moves up to 3A would be. Anahuac Buna Newton East Chambers Woodville Warren. I would hate that trip to and from Anahuac to Newton....Pack a sandwich and a thermos of coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapayne Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 One of the models has Diboll and Hamshire-Fannet in a district together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvillefan1992 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Why would kirbyville move back into 3A? We just got moved down to 2A. Just curious..I'm sure our numbers have not increased that much for us to have get moved again. At least for the next year. They dint realign for another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECBucFan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I have to agree, that is a heck of a travel budget, especially for basketball/baseball. I would hate to have to know I would get home on a Tuesday night at Midnight+ and have to be at school at 7:30am the next day.... I've said before, and I'll say again: Reality will set in. On a number of levels. Net result will be: 1) Longer travel and higher expenses 2) More kids trying to get to Wednesday morning class like zombies 3) Decreased fan attendance (You can bet on this one!) 4) Ultimately, decreased UIL revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDOSullivan Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Why would kirbyville move back into 3A? We just got moved down to 2A. Just curious..I'm sure our numbers have not increased that much for us to have get moved again. At least for the next year. They dint realign for another year. Well, throw Kirbyville into the mix. Do you want to go to Anahuac and East Chambers on a cold January Tuesday night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvillefan1992 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Why would kirbyville move back into 3A? We just got moved down to 2A. Just curious..I'm sure our numbers have not increased that much for us to have get moved again. At least for the next year. They dint realign for another year. Well, throw Kirbyville into the mix. Do you want to go to Anahuac and East Chambers on a cold January Tuesday night? Well, honestly Kirbyville has been traveling for quite some time.. this wouldnt be the first time for Kirbyville to travel. Same could go for Anahuac and EC I guess.lol..do they really want to come to kville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brubaker Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 This is a RIDICULOUS Plan, for all the good it's trying to bring, I as a player, don't want to be playing a couple of two hour road trips, until I'm in the playoffs. The dang tweaking has got to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECBucFan Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 This is a RIDICULOUS Plan, ... The dang tweaking has got to stop. You are correct! The problem is short-sighted thinking. When a fan sees the potential schedule, the thought is "it would be cool to play those teams". When the time actually comes and travel times, expenses, inconvenience for people getting off work in the evenings, etc. is faced and the reality sets in, the thoughts will be "whoa, this ain't no good! We could have played our former opponent 30 minuets away instead of driving two hours on a Tuesday night." This will backfire on the UIL. They will hear complaints both from fans and budget strapped schools, and their game revenue will drop due to declining attendance. The eternal "tweaking" is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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