pngfan1 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 So I get the argument that we don't know how effective he will be as a HC because he has never been a HC, but the argument we as PNG fans are making is that if you are going to hire a lifetime assistant coach to be your HC (which happens everyday and has happened in every HC's career) and you are going to Gamble that he can be a good HC, you need to look at the positives. This guy is loaded with positives as an assistant coach. From The great storied programs he has coached and played at, to the great coaches he has learned from, to the numbers (and wins) that his systems have helped to produced. You gotta admit that amongst HS assistants his resume is very impressive. Time will tell if it translates, but the folks in PN and G are very happy with the choice based on the facts. Also another note about hiring HC's with previous experience being less of a gamble, how about when Permian hired the guy from Sealy who had won several state titles, including one the year before he took the Permian job, and he ruined that program for several years. How about LaMarque hiring this guy from Dallas last year. HC with experience. Look how down they are. It's a gamble no matter who you pick because it is different! Remember the most successful HC in our local 4A district the past few years have held only one HC job. Neuman-Nederland, Creuder-Lumberton, Stowers-Central, Has Stewart at Dayton ever been a HC anywhere else?. Very well said.
smitty Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 It didn't appear that some of the cheerleaders realised it. Wow....You dug up some great facts on him... He's 0-0 as a Hd coach....Thanks for letting us know!
smitty Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 It was a good post! Well thought out. Good post!
Squaw1 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Posted February 14, 2009 What I find funny about those that post things like..."He doesnt have HC experience etc"....Is that....Todd Dodge was not over .500 before he got his first nod....So where is the justification?...The guy has been at good schools with some great coaches on staff.... I do agree that having probably somewhere in the area of 7-10 years experience in the field is necessary, but all coaches that pursue a HD coaching job have to have a 1st one.... The comments on no hd coaching experience is bogus.... OMG, Coonass, this is scarey as heck!! I have to AGREE with you on this. :-*
texans Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Stewart was a head coach at clear lake, and cleburne before taking the dayton job. All three programs had losing records before he got there and he brought them to the playoffs. Please dont start comparing the two coaches, one has won over 100 games and the other has won a total of 0 games. Pride, honor, tradition, dayton broncos.
badndn Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Stewart was a head coach at clear lake, and cleburne before taking the dayton job. All three programs had losing records before he got there and he brought them to the playoffs. Please dont start comparing the two coaches, one has won over 100 games and the other has won a total of 0 games. Pride, honor, tradition, dayton broncos. Who is comparing? I was making the case that all good coaches were assistants before they were Head Coaches. You guys floor me with how you like to read into things for what they are not and not for what they are. Give it a rest already.
NDNWarrior Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 I think Coach Faircloth is off to a very good start and will bring PNG back to the powerhouse we once enjoyed! (At least I hope so! ;D)
pngfan66 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Posted February 18, 2009 I think Faircloth is pushing the entire program. He is now getting some updated tech, new assistants, pushing the boys hard in off season. Even my 8th grader is pumped up about him ! Thinks are looking up at the rez now ! I have faith that Faircloth is going to do some very amazing things for PNG athletics !!! I'm not concerned about his lack of HC experience. I think the experience that he is putting on the table shows his abilities. I can hardly wait to hear Cherokee being played in about 6 month's for our first game !!!! Watch out the Indians are on the war path at the REZ !!!!!
NDNWarrior Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 So I get the argument that we don't know how effective he will be as a HC because he has never been a HC, but the argument we as PNG fans are making is that if you are going to hire a lifetime assistant coach to be your HC (which happens everyday and has happened in every HC's career) and you are going to Gamble that he can be a good HC, you need to look at the positives. This guy is loaded with positives as an assistant coach. From The great storied programs he has coached and played at, to the great coaches he has learned from, to the numbers (and wins) that his systems have helped to produced. You gotta admit that amongst HS assistants his resume is very impressive. Time will tell if it translates, but the folks in PN and G are very happy with the choice based on the facts. Also another note about hiring HC's with previous experience being less of a gamble, how about when Permian hired the guy from Sealy who had won several state titles, including one the year before he took the Permian job, and he ruined that program for several years. How about LaMarque hiring this guy from Dallas last year. HC with experience. Look how down they are. It's a gamble no matter who you pick because it is different! Remember the most successful HC in our local 4A district the past few years have held only one HC job. Neuman-Nederland, Creuder-Lumberton, Stowers-Central, Has Stewart at Dayton ever been a HC anywhere else?. GREAT POST! ;D
NDNWarrior Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 I think Faircloth is pushing the entire program. He is now getting some updated tech, new assistants, pushing the boys hard in off season. Even my 8th grader is pumped up about him ! Thinks are looking up at the rez now ! I have faith that Faircloth is going to do some very amazing things for PNG athletics !!! I'm not concerned about his lack of HC experience. I think the experience that he is putting on the table shows his abilities. I can hardly wait to hear Cherokee being played in about 6 month's for our first game !!!! Watch out the Indians are on the war path at the REZ !!!!! Man, I love it when all us NDN's are "FIRED UP", bleeding purple, and continuing the legend of HONOR.......PRIDE..........TRADITION! Gonna be a GREAT year for PNG! Scalp 'em, NDN's, Scalp 'em!
pngfan1 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Posted February 18, 2009 One thing for sure that his hiring did immediately was change the attitude of the kids and fans. Everyone seems to be excited and everything I hear from the kids is good also.
KFDM COOP Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 A PN-G person told me...A large lineman was puking and he was bending over. Coach told him "we don't bend over--if you have to puke stand up straight like a man". He also said all boys will play and all boys will be in shape.
pngfan66 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Posted February 22, 2009 Yep I've watched the boys up at the school a few times doing some conditioning and drills. They are pushing as hard and harder than they do during 2 a days !!! It is obvious that Faircloth is bringing the hard line to the rez on the boys like I have seen at Odessa Permian video's ! This is awesome ! Our boys should be in top shape and know what to expect come next season ! I'm glad that he is also telling the boys to be MEN now and start acting like it ! So I guess to follow the lead "boys" will no longer be used ! We will start saying "MEN" ! That's apparently what Faircloth wants to make them into ! That is what we need ! I bet if Faircloth goes for the spring time training the stands will be packed with fans wanting to see the new system ! Dang how long till football season ? lol
badndn Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 A PN-G person told me...A large lineman was puking and he was bending over. Coach told him "we don't bend over--if you have to puke stand up straight like a man". He also said all boys will play and all boys will be in shape. actually he said all boys at the MS and Freshman level will play because it is a developmental stage and they need to find out who can and can't on the field at those ages. love the attitude!
KFDM COOP Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 The MOJO mat excerises start this week i believe. Those are the drills that were on video.
NDNWarrior Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 Yep I've watched the boys up at the school a few times doing some conditioning and drills. They are pushing as hard and harder than they do during 2 a days !!! It is obvious that Faircloth is bringing the hard line to the rez on the boys like I have seen at Odessa Permian video's ! This is awesome ! Our boys should be in top shape and know what to expect come next season ! I'm glad that he is also telling the boys to be MEN now and start acting like it ! So I guess to follow the lead "boys" will no longer be used ! We will start saying "MEN" ! That's apparently what Faircloth wants to make them into ! That is what we need ! I bet if Faircloth goes for the spring time training the stands will be packed with fans wanting to see the new system ! Dang how long till football season ? lol Wow! This is GREAT! I bet your right, the stands will have a lot of fans watching spring training! ;D
Cardinal Supporter Posted February 22, 2009 Report Posted February 22, 2009 I hope to go watch the spring game. I am interested in what the new system looks like. But beware. I remember coach Malone. People were saying he was weeding out the babies and momma's boys and so on. A lot of parents did not like the tough program he instilled. And a lot of teachers also. Yes, his program worked and is what was needed to turn PNG around at the time. He made them into winners. But beware of parents and some teachers that work around him. They are not used to the rigid program. I hope everyone at PNG accepts it and not just the fans. Good luck PNG. I am excited for you and hope this system brings good things to the tribe.
pngfan1 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 He also told them they will no longer have their name on the back of their game jerseys. He said they had to play as a team and that name is on the front of the jersey.
YankeeDawg Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 He also told them they will no longer have their name on the back of their game jerseys. He said they had to play as a team and that name is on the front of the jersey. Sounds like Coach isn't going to put up with any "super-star" egos or "I'm too good to have to run laps" BS. From what I've heard and read so far he is definitely TEAM focused which I think may be the shot in the arm that PNG needs to succeed.
Cardinal Supporter Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 He also told them they will no longer have their name on the back of their game jerseys. He said they had to play as a team and that name is on the front of the jersey. Some of the other sport coaches did not like not having the names of players on the back of their shirts, Jerseys, etc... That was a petty thing in my opinion to be mad at but it happened.
smitty Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 Burnett didn't promote a TEAM philosophy? He also told them they will no longer have their name on the back of their game jerseys. He said they had to play as a team and that name is on the front of the jersey. Sounds like Coach isn't going to put up with any "super-star" egos or "I'm too good to have to run laps" BS. From what I've heard and read so far he is definitely TEAM focused which I think may be the shot in the arm that PNG needs to succeed.
YankeeDawg Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 Burnett didn't promote a TEAM philosophy? He also told them they will no longer have their name on the back of their game jerseys. He said they had to play as a team and that name is on the front of the jersey. Sounds like Coach isn't going to put up with any "super-star" egos or "I'm too good to have to run laps" BS. From what I've heard and read so far he is definitely TEAM focused which I think may be the shot in the arm that PNG needs to succeed. I didn't say he didn't, did I ? I'm referring to what Coach Faircloth said about the names on the jerseys.
pngfan1 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 A PN-G person told me...A large lineman was puking and he was bending over. Coach told him "we don't bend over--if you have to puke stand up straight like a man". He also said all boys will play and all boys will be in shape. actually he said all boys at the MS and Freshman level will play because it is a developmental stage and they need to find out who can and can't on the field at those ages. love the attitude! He also wants ALL the middle school athletic periods to be first period so the varsity coaches can be at the middle school practices every morning.
Cardinal Supporter Posted February 23, 2009 Report Posted February 23, 2009 A PN-G person told me...A large lineman was puking and he was bending over. Coach told him "we don't bend over--if you have to puke stand up straight like a man". He also said all boys will play and all boys will be in shape. actually he said all boys at the MS and Freshman level will play because it is a developmental stage and they need to find out who can and can't on the field at those ages. love the attitude! He also wants ALL the middle school athletic periods to be first period so the varsity coaches can be at the middle school practices every morning. Not a bad idea. Faircloth seems to be on top of everything. That way the varsity coaches can get a first hand look at the kids that will be the future for PNG. Oh. About the puking thing. When I played one practice we had in hot August I began to feel like throwing up. I told my coach that and he yelled at me "get over there and throw up then get back in line". That is just coaches talking.
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