Any Play-off Previews this Year?

[Guest DickVitale]

So Clay does not list his titles with Todd at HJ, right? I have earned every accolade that I got. Besides I have also won district and been to regionals as a head coach, and have never missed the playoffs at any point in my career on any level...Won district each year I coached sub varsity...(Never lost a sub varsity district game) Why are you riding me so? back up, man!

Dickie V, you really ought to have better things to do with your time than to put your career synopsis out on a sports discussion board!!!

You are probably right, but, I needed to be clear to some folks on here..Besides, I was in between recruiting calls!! I don't know who these guys think I am where they can just challenge me like that...But...You are probably right, and I should just ignore it.....

[Guest DickVitale]

Playoff basketball is about momentum...I DOUBT that Travis wants to get a 40-50 point loss going into the playoffs, though, knowing Greg Wise (Yates Head Coach) I doubt he would even waste their time playing Silsbee...Silsbee has a shot to win a 3A title this year...Leave it at that...They should not try to bite off more than they can chew playing a Yates team that is clearly on a mission.  Besides they take 4 teams to the playoffs in 4A and 5A this season so that can't happen anyway...Stop being a homer AAW and realize your teams limitations. Yates would beat the heck out of Silsbee....really...And I know, "we only lost to Ozen by 1 point!" Yeah..That was Novemeber.....Wanna play them again now? That would be a beating..bad beating....Still pulling for your tigers though, don't get me wrong...Just a little reality check...Silsbee is 3A tough....keep that in mind.

Let's see, where do I start first knocking holes in your post. Yes, first of all, you are correct that 4A takes 4 teams to the playoffs, BUT, district ends next Tuesday night and the playoffs don't start till the following Tuesday night. The Friday and Saturday in between is left for any tie breaker games needed or if anyone chooses to have a warm up game. So there is an opportunity for these teams to play. Here is the 4A bracket for you to see: http://www.uil.utexas.edu/athletics/brackets/basketball/boys/pdf/4ABoys.pdf Get your facts straight!

Secondly, I was not disputing the fact that Yates or Wheatly would not run over Silsbee. I personally believe that would be the case. What I was disputing with you was the fact that YOU thought that it was in Silsbee's best interest not to play those teams and I said I will trust Travis judgment as to what HE feels is best for his team and what he thinks would be good for HIS team. I'll trust him with that decision, not you. I am willing to bet you and anyone else that Silsbee would not lose by 40-50 points to either one of these teams.

Also, just because Silsbee and Ozen played to a one point game in NOVEMBER, doesn't mean that Ozen would blow Silsbee out now. How do figure that one? Is it because you feel only Ozen can get better as the season progress's and not anyone else? Silsbee is pretty battle tested and you and I both know that Ozen is not as good with Saveat at the helm compared to Boutte. Boutte was the coach back in November.

I agree, Walter, that playoff basketball is about momentum, but if Silsbee gets the opportunity to play either Yates or Wheatly, I wouldn't doubt Travis decision in playing them. I would trust that it would only do Silsbee good, would be no harm. By your words, they would definetly not play anyone better in the 3A playoffs.

Now lets get you straightened out, Mr. Sanchez....If the district schedule ends on Tuesday as you say, Greg Wise would not waste his time playing Silsbee. period. They are taking four teams and have to play an extra game as district champs to get to regionals and state, so the key word for a pressing team is fresh legs and rest.

Your tigers MAY not get beat by 40-50 (probably 30) but either way it would not be a "good loss" if there is such a thing.  Yates and Wheatley press 32 minutes, but they are bigger, faster, and stronger than your guys...(I have seen them ALL play so that is not just a 4A-3A statement) which also means that the window for injury would be greater in an up tempo game versus a more physical opponent.

Mike, I can assure you that your team would not play Ozen to a one point game again, even without Willie or Boutte at the helm...Silsbee played over their heads and Ozen played un-inspired and still won the game...You play them now and your team gets beat...probably real bad....I don't think you realize it, but I am pulling for your tigers to go all the way..I really am...Just don't get besides yourself in your assessment of them versus other teams in higher classifications...Yates, Wheatley and Ozen are GOOD 4A squads that could represent region 3 in Austin, so its no crime that Silsbee really cant stand next to them at THIS point in the season. Now YOU stop being a homer and accept reality! Still think you are a good guy, though...Just a homer!

[AggiesAreWe]

Playoff basketball is about momentum...I DOUBT that Travis wants to get a 40-50 point loss going into the playoffs, though, knowing Greg Wise (Yates Head Coach) I doubt he would even waste their time playing Silsbee...Silsbee has a shot to win a 3A title this year...Leave it at that...They should not try to bite off more than they can chew playing a Yates team that is clearly on a mission.  Besides they take 4 teams to the playoffs in 4A and 5A this season so that can't happen anyway...Stop being a homer AAW and realize your teams limitations. Yates would beat the heck out of Silsbee....really...And I know, "we only lost to Ozen by 1 point!" Yeah..That was Novemeber.....Wanna play them again now? That would be a beating..bad beating....Still pulling for your tigers though, don't get me wrong...Just a little reality check...Silsbee is 3A tough....keep that in mind.

Let's see, where do I start first knocking holes in your post. Yes, first of all, you are correct that 4A takes 4 teams to the playoffs, BUT, district ends next Tuesday night and the playoffs don't start till the following Tuesday night. The Friday and Saturday in between is left for any tie breaker games needed or if anyone chooses to have a warm up game. So there is an opportunity for these teams to play. Here is the 4A bracket for you to see:

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Get your facts straight!

Secondly, I was not disputing the fact that Yates or Wheatly would not run over Silsbee. I personally believe that would be the case. What I was disputing with you was the fact that YOU thought that it was in Silsbee's best interest not to play those teams and I said I will trust Travis judgment as to what HE feels is best for his team and what he thinks would be good for HIS team. I'll trust him with that decision, not you. I am willing to bet you and anyone else that Silsbee would not lose by 40-50 points to either one of these teams.

Also, just because Silsbee and Ozen played to a one point game in NOVEMBER, doesn't mean that Ozen would blow Silsbee out now. How do figure that one? Is it because you feel only Ozen can get better as the season progress's and not anyone else? Silsbee is pretty battle tested and you and I both know that Ozen is not as good with Saveat at the helm compared to Boutte. Boutte was the coach back in November.

I agree, Walter, that playoff basketball is about momentum, but if Silsbee gets the opportunity to play either Yates or Wheatly, I wouldn't doubt Travis decision in playing them. I would trust that it would only do Silsbee good, would be no harm. By your words, they would definetly not play anyone better in the 3A playoffs.

Now lets get you straightened out, Mr. Sanchez....If the district schedule ends on Tuesday as you say, Greg Wise would not waste his time playing Silsbee. period. They are taking four teams and have to play an extra game as district champs to get to regionals and state, so the key word for a pressing team is fresh legs and rest.

Your tigers MAY not get beat by 40-50 (probably 30) but either way it would not be a "good loss" if there is such a thing.  Yates and Wheatley press 32 minutes, but they are bigger, faster, and stronger than your guys...(I have seen them ALL play so that is not just a 4A-3A statement) which also means that the window for injury would be greater in an up tempo game versus a more physical opponent.

Mike, I can assure you that your team would not play Ozen to a one point game again, even without Willie or Boutte at the helm...Silsbee played over their heads and Ozen played un-inspired and still won the game...You play them now and your team gets beat...probably real bad....I don't think you realize it, but I am pulling for your tigers to go all the way..I really am...Just don't get besides yourself in your assessment of them versus other teams in higher classifications...Yates, Wheatley and Ozen are GOOD 4A squads that could represent region 3 in Austin, so its no crime that Silsbee really cant stand next to them at THIS point in the season. Now YOU stop being a homer and accept reality! Still think you are a good guy, though...Just a homer!

First of all, the question wasn't about Coach Wise CHOOSING to play Silsbee, it was if there was a possibility to play the game. I showed that there is a possibility since the schedule would allow it. You said that they COULD not play based on the fact that 4A took 4 teams. Now you say the coach would not do it based on playing too many games. I would totally understand a coach not wanting to play too many games, but you were saying it couldn't happen because of the schedule. That's not true.

I believe that Ozen would probably win a rematch, but to say it would be a blow out is down right ridiculous. Without Boutte and Jefferson, this would be another close game, maybe not 1 point, but close. That's not being a homer, that's just understanding the game of basketball. To claim that Ozen played uninspired basketball the last time these two played is a knock on Boutte. I don't beleive that to be the case.

I never said that Silsbee could hang with the Yates and Wheatlys, but I don't think they would lose by 40-50 points. I know what kind of team Silsbee is and what their limitations are. It doesn't matter to me if you are "pulling" for the Tigers. It doesn't make your brash statements any wiser.

I do accept the reality and the reality is Silsbee is a very good basketball team. Are they on the level of Yates and Wheatly? No. But I think they are worthy enough to be on the same court as them. It would be a great prep for the playoffs.

[sabinebball]

Anyone interested in traveling for a warm up classic there are ones in Royce City, Tyler and Burleson (Ft Worth).  Sabine will be traveling to Burleson but not sure of the matchup yet because a lot of districts are still undecided.  I think the Ponder/Krum friday night game will clear up the matchups.  I know Argle, Burkburnett, Dallas Madison are playing in it from 3A ranks and a lot of highly ranked 2A teams. 

[Guest DickVitale]

Whatever AAW, you are such a homer, man.....To play uninspired against a 3A team and you are a 4A power is a natural occurance and is in no way a reflection on Boutte...Thats just dumb...They were beating the daylights out of Silsbee (but of course you forgot that fact) and let up, and that happens to Coach K from Duke at times....So how is it SO RIDICULOUS to say that they would blow Silsbee out? Get outta here, man!!! If you don't look at those two teams and KNOW that you are OVERMATCHED at EVERY spot, you really don't know this game half as much as you thought. This is February, Mike...Although Silsbee has gotten better, Ozen's better trumps Silsbee's because they are BETTER ATHLETES.... BIGGER, STONGER, AND FASTER...At every position. You HAVE to know that....Now you have been getting all ticked off so I am going to leave your team alone...good luck to your tigers Mr. Sanchez.....Lighten up.

[AggiesAreWe]

Whatever AAW, you are such a homer, man.....To play uninspired against a 3A team and you are a 4A power is a natural occurance and is in no way a reflection on Boutte...Thats just dumb...They were beating the daylights out of Silsbee (but of course you forgot that fact) and let up, and that happens to Coach K from Duke at times....So how is it SO RIDICULOUS to say that they would blow Silsbee out? Get outta here, man!!! If you don't look at those two teams and KNOW that you are OVERMATCHED at EVERY spot, you really don't know this game half as much as you thought. This is February, Mike...Although Silsbee has gotten better, Ozen's better trumps Silsbee's because they are BETTER ATHLETES.... BIGGER, STONGER, AND FASTER...At every position. You HAVE to know that....Now you have been getting all ticked off so I am going to leave your team alone...good luck to your tigers Mr. Sanchez.....Lighten up.

What makes you think I am getting ticked off? I am having a debate about basketball. You obviously don't know me that well. As far as I am concerned, you can continue your bashing of Silsbee, you are not doing me any favors by stopping. I think you are the one that needs to "lighten up". You are the one that seems to be getting all hot under the collar because someone is debating basketball with you. Is it because you feel so superior? You need to step down off that pedestal.

You'll never convince me that Silsbee is not capable of beating this year's Ozen team. You can call me a homer for thinking that way, but that's what I beleive.

[ST413]

Why don't you ask H-J about Silsbee's half court defense?

[Guest DickVitale]

Why don't you ask H-J about Silsbee's half court defense?

No need...Just watch the West Orange Stark game again...They just missed a ton of easy ones against you guys...They got to the basket whenever they wanted.

[ST413]

May not have been our best effort but in the playoffs ,the effort will be there. Even with that it was still a victory(by 23 pts I believe). Whether we will get out of the region only time will tell.  But I like our chances better than any other single team.  Yet it is the playoffs and everyone will be gunning for the tigers after last year.  However the defense will be there just like it was in Sour Lake. virtually every shot was contested.

[Guest DickVitale]

May not have been our best effort but in the playoffs ,the effort will be there. Even with that it was still a victory. Whether we will get out of the region only time will tell.  But I like our chances better than any other single team.  Yet it is the playoffs and everyone will be gunning for the tigers after last year.  However the defense will be there just like it was in Sour Lake. virtually every shot was contested.

Thats great, young fella...Didn't mean to rain on you guys parade. I hope your team can tweak the small issues and get back to Austin.  Good luck.

[ST413]

This is no "young fella"..although I wish I was  few years younger.

[Guest DickVitale]

This is no "young fella"..although I wish I was  few years younger.

My apologies....Thought you were a Silsbee student athlete up late on the computer!! I should go to bed, but I am up watching the Duke/UNC game again courtesy of the DVR, and I cant stop!!! I am a hoops junkie, what can I say!

[#10gwh]

DICK is just what his name says nothing more... just a hater... talk about a homer.... you are 40 times more a homer than aggies about your prescious Ozen... i cant believe you threw them in with Wheatly and Yates... quit dreaming... they are good 4a teams ozen is not

[Guest DickVitale]

DICK is just what his name says nothing more... just a hater... talk about a homer.... you are 40 times more a homer than aggies about your prescious Ozen... i cant believe you threw them in with Wheatly and Yates... quit dreaming... they are good 4a teams ozen is not

That is so original...Did you make that up?  :

[jmspears3]

DICK is just what his name says nothing more... just a hater... talk about a homer.... you are 40 times more a homer than aggies about your prescious Ozen... i cant believe you threw them in with Wheatly and Yates... quit dreaming... they are good 4a teams ozen is not

Ozen is a good 4A team, but they will not make it to the state tourney

[Guest DickVitale]

DICK is just what his name says nothing more... just a hater... talk about a homer.... you are 40 times more a homer than aggies about your prescious Ozen... i cant believe you threw them in with Wheatly and Yates... quit dreaming... they are good 4a teams ozen is not

Ozen is a good 4A team, but they will not make it to the state tourney

You are probably right. They have had way too many distractions, and without Boutte at the helm, it will be difficult this year for them in the playoffs.

[jmspears3]

DICK is just what his name says nothing more... just a hater... talk about a homer.... you are 40 times more a homer than aggies about your prescious Ozen... i cant believe you threw them in with Wheatly and Yates... quit dreaming... they are good 4a teams ozen is not

Ozen is a good 4A team, but they will not make it to the state tourney

You are probably right. They have had way too many distractions, and without Boutte at the helm, it will be difficult this year for them in the playoffs.

IMO if Boutte had not of left maybe none of these distractions would have happened.

Hopefully Boutte will be back on the court sooner than later, he is to good of a coach to be behind a desk.

[Guest DickVitale]

DICK is just what his name says nothing more... just a hater... talk about a homer.... you are 40 times more a homer than aggies about your prescious Ozen... i cant believe you threw them in with Wheatly and Yates... quit dreaming... they are good 4a teams ozen is not

Ozen is a good 4A team, but they will not make it to the state tourney

You are probably right. They have had way too many distractions, and without Boutte at the helm, it will be difficult this year for them in the playoffs.

IMO if Boutte had not of left maybe none of these distractions would have happened.

Hopefully Boutte will be back on the court sooner than later, he is to good of a coach to be behind a desk.

He will be back.....Write it down.

[CATMAN]

A warm up game is not about a W or L It about what team that will help you when the playoff start.You no that MR.DICK

[Guest DickVitale]

A warm up game is not about a W or L It about what team that will help you when the playoff start.You no that MR.DICK

??? You talk like a darn robot, son! Jesus Christ!! If you read the thread I was talking about playoff MOMENTUM....Getting beat by 30 in a warm up game does NOT help your playoff run at all...My goodness.... : :

[Guest tigersvoice]

DICK is just what his name says nothing more... just a hater... talk about a homer.... you are 40 times more a homer than aggies about your prescious Ozen... i cant believe you threw them in with Wheatly and Yates... quit dreaming... they are good 4a teams ozen is not

Ozen is a good 4A team, but they will not make it to the state tourney

You are probably right. They have had way too many distractions, and without Boutte at the helm, it will be difficult this year for them in the playoffs.

IMO if Boutte had not of left maybe none of these distractions would have happened.

Hopefully Boutte will be back on the court sooner than later, he is to good of a coach to be behind a desk.

He will be back.....Write it down.

Do you mean at Ozen, or PA Memorial, or Syracuse University, or the San Antonio Spurs?

[KHSAlum400]

This thread has switched to another topic.... >

[HoopInsider_Cooper]

Yep...about to lock it up. Last warning.