Kountze Updates/Kountze Wins!!!

[bullets13]

anyone?

[bbfan1955]

Kountze  66

Warren  48

[24 over par]

much closer than i expected

[KHSAlum400]

Waiting to hear TopDawg's or "unknown123456789's" analysis of what went on in this game. Much closer than I expected too.

[TopDawG52]

kountze came out flat.. started a different line up with

1... D smith  6 ppg  8 apg

2  J turner    5 ppg  good Defense

3  R walker  15ppg   

4  D tealer    8ppg    good defense and nice rebounder

5  M williams  17 ppg  all around best player...

we did not apply the normal pressure we started off in a sort of 1-2-2  Defense somethin new and also played some halfcourt defense i think the coaches started this lineup because of Defense (that is what you have to half to win in the Playoffs... most of the scoring comes off the bench with the such players as  Zay Mcdaniell  david johnson  jack mcknight and tyrece smith...    we got up as much as 30 but just let Warren hang around nothing to worry about the boys are getting ready for the showdown with Anahuac which i think we be a hugh booster whoever wins having to meet up with New Wavely early..

[whsalum]

This Kountze club isn't as good as some of the past clubs.They are playing about as well as they can but are a lot smaller on the defensive side than in years past and don't shoot the ball as well as they have over the last several years.I think they will win a playoff game or two but I dont think they make the regional tournament this year.I think Anahuac will win the seeding game but I haven't looked at the UIL bracket yet.So I really can't predict how deep the Panthers will go,both clubs will struggle against New Waverly.

[TopDawG52]

I'm going to go out on a limb... i will compare this years team to the team two years ago

Kountze  07                               

shooters-  C.J. Busby and Cameron Powell

Defensive Specialist- Fred Boykin and Jamesky Sabaeron

Ball Handlers-  Freddie Haynes and Fred Boykin

Shot Blockers-  C.J. Busby

Scorers-  C.J. Busby. Cameron Powell and Fred Boykin(Getting to the Freethrow line...

Kountze 09

Shooters  Zay McDaniel, David Johnson and Jack McKnight

Defensive Specialist-  J.J Turner and Milton Williams

Ball Handlers- Domingo Smith

Shot Blockers - Roman Walker(at times)

Scorers - Milton Williams and Roman Walker...

Kountze 07 was better at just playing the game. the guards were getting to the basket getting fouled

and knocked down open shots if you gave it to them.. the overall best thing they did was take care of the ball thanks to a trendmous pg in Freddie Haynes... now kountze 09 is the more quicker team and better shooting team but they lack the pentration from the guards and just knowing the game of basketball.. the only thing i see stopping kountze 09 from a deep playoff run is freethrows or not playing smart Basketball limiting the turnovers... the Defense will be there and the talent has always been there.

[whsalum]

I'm going to go out on a limb... i will compare this years team to the team two years ago

Kountze   07                               

shooters-  C.J. Busby and Cameron Powell

Defensive Specialist- Fred Boykin and Jamesky Sabaeron

Ball Handlers-   Freddie Haynes and Fred Boykin

Shot Blockers-  C.J. Busby

Scorers-  C.J. Busby. Cameron Powell and Fred Boykin(Getting to the Freethrow line...

Kountze 09

Shooters   Zay McDaniel, David Johnson and Jack McKnight

Defensive Specialist-  J.J Turner and Milton Williams

Ball Handlers- Domingo Smith

Shot Blockers - Roman Walker(at times)

Scorers - Milton Williams and Roman Walker...

Kountze 07 was better at just playing the game. the guards were getting to the basket getting fouled

and knocked down open shots if you gave it to them.. the overall best thing they did was take care of the ball thanks to a trendmous pg in Freddie Haynes... now kountze 09 is the more quicker team and better shooting team but they lack the pentration from the guards and just knowing the game of basketball.. the only thing i see stopping kountze 09 from a deep playoff run is freethrows or not playing smart Basketball limiting the turnovers... the Defense will be there and the talent has always been there.

Dawg I usually respect your opinion but your evaluating this club with your heart and not your head.Look at your matchups here position by position.The 07 club was night and day better than this group and alot bigger.I've seen this years club several times and they just don't shoot the ball very well.Kountze has always beat people with a tough full court defense.The teams that handled the pressure in the past(EC-with Tramain)always played them tough.The team with Powell and Busby were state champs and this years group while pretty solid is a long way from that caliber.They do have a young club so they may grow in to that type team but they aren't there yet.

[TopDawG52]

whsalum i'm going to have to say this Kountze team 09 is not as near as good as 07 but i can bet the bank that they shoot the ball alot better than the 07 team. yes they were alot bigger lets look at it at a respective.. you have

kountze 07

PG Freddie Haynes -good slasher/ sometimer shooter-made the team go...

SG Fred Boykin-  Defense and Slasher--- ok Shooter at times..

SF  Jamesky sabaeron--- Defense (only reason he started as a Jr.)

PF  Cameron Powell--  moved down to the post during the playoff run  ( Great Shooter)

C  C.J. Busby  --- 6-6  you bets to believe he could shoot (best Shooter on the team and probly the district at the time...)

kountze 09 

PG  Domingo Smith    Does not Turn the ball over..

SG  Zay McDaniel  only a Soph  Shoots lights out...  better shooter than F.Boykin

SF  David Johnson  they call him white chocolate---Boy Can shoot the lights out...better than Sabaeron

PF  Milton williams        Is a small version of C. Powell  Banger if he was as tall as cam would be almost as good..

C  Roman Walker      can shoot the ball but have not come along so far this year...

as i say  Kountze 09 shoots the ball better than Kountze 07 anybody that follows kountze basketball knows this.  Kountze 07 would beat kountze 09 about 40 or maybe 50 if they are shooting the ball well.. because of Size and The ability to get to the Rack... Better Shooting Team= kountze 09

[whsalum]

Dawg, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one.I follow a lot of high school and college ball (probably watch around 35-40 games a year)and try to evaluate the clubs that I see.I saw the 07 club ALOT as they were in our district that year.I even saw the seeding game and the 2 games in the drum and that club was special.Night in and night out they could light it up.This years group I have seen  4 times and they have struggled each time I've seen them.They are normal for a high school club,they struggle shooting against the better defensive teams while the 07 club could shoot it against anyone.The 07 club would hang 100 on ya on any given night and did it on a regular basis.I don't mean any disrespect to this years team but the 07 KHS club was something special.

[Bucof2010]

E.C. Beat Ktz. In 07 (-;

[KHSAlum400]

This Kountze club isn't as good as some of the past clubs.They are playing about as well as they can but are a lot smaller on the defensive side than in years past and don't shoot the ball as well as they have over the last several years. I think they will win a playoff game or two but I dont think they make the regional tournament this year. I think Anahuac will win the seeding game but I haven't looked at the UIL bracket yet.So I really can't predict how deep the Panthers will go,both clubs will struggle against New Waverly.

whalum, If Anahuac wins the seeding game, Kountze will have a much easier road to Tyler than the Panthers. If Kountze loses, like you're saying, they will face a 3rd place 24-2A team, an overrated Newton team, and possibly Corrigan-Camden/Woodville for a trip to Regionals. The loser of the seeding game will have a much easier road than their counterpart. But, who plays to lose, right?

To end the speculation, this year's team is NO WHERE NEAR the 06-07 Kountze Lion team IMO.

[whsalum]

E.C. Beat Ktz. In 07 (-;

Yes they did that's why I mentioned the seeding game because they split.However Kountze won the state title that year.In my opinion the team that I saw at the drum that year was one of the best 2-a clubs I've seen.

[whsalum]

KHSAlum 400,I totally agree with you.I hadn't looked at the UIL brackets,that's why I didn't comment on which team would go deep in the playoffs.My question was about comparing the 2 clubs in 07 and 09 and there is NO comparison.

[aTmfan06]

E.C. Beat Ktz. In 07 (-;

But we did win state that year:)

[KHSAlum400]

Here's a little video I found of the '07 Kountze Lion team FYI. Once again, this year's team is NO WHERE NEAR the 07 team...

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[aTmfan06]

The 09 team is not a better shooting team!! lol

[TopDawG52]

Ok i rest my case. everyone is in title to their own Opinion.. I know if you asked Coach Joubert he would let you know the only Consistent shooter he had on the 07 team was C.J. Busby and Cam Powell until he had to go down low in the playoffs. name some other shooters i'm missing because i can't think of none of them.

[whsalum]

Ok i rest my case. everyone is in title to their own Opinion.. I know if you asked Coach Joubert he would let you know the only Consistent shooter he had on the 07 team was C.J. Busby and Cam Powell until he had to go down low in the playoffs. name some other shooters i'm missing because i can't think of none of them.

I quess if your just gonna have 2 that's 2 pretty good ones to have.I think they were both all state that year.Maybe the the times I saw this years club they were just having an off night.

[aTmfan06]

Ok i rest my case. everyone is in title to their own Opinion.. I know if you asked Coach Joubert he would let you know the only Consistent shooter he had on the 07 team was C.J. Busby and Cam Powell until he had to go down low in the playoffs. name some other shooters i'm missing because i can't think of none of them.

Tell me a CONSISTENT shooter from this team??

[unknown 123456789]

Ok i rest my case. everyone is in title to their own Opinion.. I know if you asked Coach Joubert he would let you know the only Consistent shooter he had on the 07 team was C.J. Busby and Cam Powell until he had to go down low in the playoffs. name some other shooters i'm missing because i can't think of none of them.

Tell me a CONSISTENT shooter from this team??

zay mcdaniel and david johnson both shoot over 50 percent

[Bucof2010]

First time I saw Zay play was when he was a 7th grade 3 pt. Machine.

[bone]

09 team not 07 team for real