Jump to content

Texas High School Football Preseason Top 40

Guest scottpellegrin93

By Guest scottpellegrin93
in SETXsports Archived Threads

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 53
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

BMTSoulja1

BMTSoulja1

Posted
Posted

We appeciate the work in puttimg it together.  I respect a fellow HS football fan putting polls together for the sake of conversation...  Because this is what your predictions are causing plenty of.    I have my opinion.  I cannot speak for my fellow posters, and I'm not disrespecting you, but the 4a rankings suck.  there is no way around that... :-\

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Bigdog

Bigdog

Posted
Posted

You still haven't explained the rankings.  Why do you think PNG rates as #29?

And Nederland should be rank ahead of us?

I am not asking because I am upset about Nederland's ranking, I don't put much stock in rankings and niether does Neumann.  The Dogs do the talking on the field.  But, since you brought it up as far as the regional rankings go, yes.  Vidor and PNG are two teams that we beat consistently over multiple seasons, not just last year.  PNG has a new coach and is unproven.  Vidor has the same team and coach as last year and missed the playoffs for the eighth straight year.  I think until proven otherwise, the pre-season rankings should reflect that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rapayne

rapayne

Posted
Posted

So explain PNG being on it?

After reading some of the comments and hate on this thread, you don't deserve an explanation.

Great job again on the rankings!  But you of all people know that these are like the NCAA selections.  No matter how thought out they are, someone is going to gripe!

Appreciate it.. I do agree with you! Some people have no clue the amount of research, analyzing, reanalyzing and discussions it takes with different people and coaches to put this stuff together. I have spent several months on this material and to get disrespected for the results of how I put it together is an absolute insult. Cry and whine when they don't see their team in a certain spot. In the end, rankings mean nothing but I spend several months on it.

I feel ya, but I have got to ask again where is Cleveland??? Its crazy to me!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TexasHSFootball

TexasHSFootball

Posted
Posted

So explain PNG being on it?

After reading some of the comments and hate on this thread, you don't deserve an explanation.

Great job again on the rankings!  But you of all people know that these are like the NCAA selections.  No matter how thought out they are, someone is going to gripe!

Appreciate it.. I do agree with you! Some people have no clue the amount of research, analyzing, reanalyzing and discussions it takes with different people and coaches to put this stuff together. I have spent several months on this material and to get disrespected for the results of how I put it together is an absolute insult. Cry and whine when they don't see their team in a certain spot. In the end, rankings mean nothing but I spend several months on it.

I feel ya, but I have got to ask again where is Cleveland??? Its crazy to me!

Part of the issue with Cleveland is their district and their scheduling. Sure, they will probably win 9 or 10 games... but when you look at the overall strength of those potential wins, it's not all that impressive, even in non-district play. Some 2A people were wondering the same thing about Vanderbilt Industrial in Region IV, basically Industrial falls under the same issues Cleveland does. A district that really drags them down.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BMTSoulja1

BMTSoulja1

Posted
Posted

You still haven't explained the rankings.  Why do you think PNG rates as #29?

And Nederland should be rank ahead of us?

I am not asking because I am upset about Nederland's ranking, I don't put much stock in rankings and niether does Neumann.  The Dogs do the talking on the field.  But, since you brought it up as far as the regional rankings go, yes.  Vidor and PNG are two teams that we beat consistently over multiple seasons, not just last year.  PNG has a new coach and is unproven.  Vidor has the same team and coach as last year and missed the playoffs for the eighth straight year.  I think until proven otherwise, the pre-season rankings should reflect that.

Completely agree...
Link to comment
Share on other sites
PN-G bamatex

PN-G bamatex

Posted
Posted

We appeciate the work in puttimg it together.  I respect a fellow HS football fan putting polls together for the sake of conversation...  Because this is what your predictions are causing plenty of.    I have my opinion.  I cannot speak for my fellow posters, and I'm not disrespecting you, but the 4a rankings suck.  there is no way around that... :-\

In your opinion, they suck. While I don't believe them to be completely accurate, I love the rankings. In my opinion, they're great. To me, it shows that we're getting some respect from around the state for the first time in a while.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rapayne

rapayne

Posted
Posted

We appeciate the work in puttimg it together.  I respect a fellow HS football fan putting polls together for the sake of conversation...  Because this is what your predictions are causing plenty of.    I have my opinion.  I cannot speak for my fellow posters, and I'm not disrespecting you, but the 4a rankings suck.  there is no way around that... :-\

In your opinion, they suck. While I don't believe them to be completely accurate, I love the rankings. In my opinion, they're great. To me, it shows that we're getting some respect from around the state for the first time in a while.

Heard it best the other day, some of these schools are getting a lot of attention and hadn't even...umm lets say whizzed a drop!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
PN-G bamatex

PN-G bamatex

Posted
Posted

We appeciate the work in puttimg it together.  I respect a fellow HS football fan putting polls together for the sake of conversation...  Because this is what your predictions are causing plenty of.    I have my opinion.  I cannot speak for my fellow posters, and I'm not disrespecting you, but the 4a rankings suck.  there is no way around that... :-\

In your opinion, they suck. While I don't believe them to be completely accurate, I love the rankings. In my opinion, they're great. To me, it shows that we're getting some respect from around the state for the first time in a while.

Heard it best the other day, some of these schools are getting a lot of attention and hadn't even...umm lets say whizzed a drop!

I'll admit that I don't believe many of the predictions for PN-G to be realistic (including this one - no offense TexasHSFootball, just a difference of opinion), but I do believe PN-G has a solid shot at the #3 district spot and the playoffs this year. I also don't believe that you can just write a football team off because they have a new coach, coaching staff, or system. I think that too many people think that PN-G will perform poorly this year simply because we have a new coaching staff. I don't think that Central will perform poorly this year simply because they have a new coach. In fact, in another thread, I said that I believe that Central will take the #2 spot. I just don't think it's fair for some to take a school lightly because there's been a major change when there's obvious evidence of major improvement as well as a decorated new coaching staff.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SgtRey

SgtRey

Posted
Posted

  I don't know why everyone so freakin sensitive about their ranking...everyone is 0-0 !  Look at TXHS Rankings, Dave Campbell, Soulja's rankings( ;D)...It means absolutely nothing....your strength of schedule...sorry not the BCS(it will not determine our State champion)....we have a play-off system.  You may be able to measure or rank Teams this year after they do something.  Then maybe, the rankings will be a little more accurate than they are now. 

  Do we still want to see Pre-season rankings?  Absolutely...just don't go getting all dramatic when your team is not ranked the way you want it to be...use it as motivation like Central will...they got further in the play offs than most of us, if not all of us...but that was last year...new year, new coach, new team(only bringing back 3 starters, I believe)...

  As for what is going on at PNG, it's a strong community, lots of money, lots of missing success...they see hope....good for them....lots of teams have new coaches.  Because PNG's coach came from Permian(a recently revived program) he's suppose to save the program here(media blew it up)... yet to be proven...Coach Stump came to us from Kelly(what is Kelly?)...Coach Nelson at Ozen is comming from West Brook....so-on and so-on.

  TXHSFOOTBALL stated, his ranking are based on HIS research....has anybody else done any research on all the high schools in the State?  Not saying I agree with the rankings, but he may be close to being right...lots of factors play in to dat I'm sure...depth, injuries, schedule, etc...

  As far as I'm concerned, he's the expert on this board...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest scottpellegrin93

Guest scottpellegrin93

Posted
Posted

You still haven't explained the rankings.  Why do you think PNG rates as #29?

And Nederland should be rank ahead of us?

I am not asking because I am upset about Nederland's ranking, I don't put much stock in rankings and niether does Neumann.  The Dogs do the talking on the field.  But, since you brought it up as far as the regional rankings go, yes.   Vidor and PNG are two teams that we beat consistently over multiple seasons, not just last year.  PNG has a new coach and is unproven.  Vidor has the same team and coach as last year and missed the playoffs for the eighth straight year.  I think until proven otherwise, the pre-season rankings should reflect that.

Nederland/PN-G

INDIANS LEAD, 47-31-7

so yeah they got a good 16 games ahead of yall

Link to comment
Share on other sites
82 5A State Champs

82 5A State Champs

Posted
Posted

They don't know about all the superstars....Just like they don't know bout Da' Brooks superstars....guess they'll be adjusting those polls after the first few weeks....I know we'll move up at Da' Brook....Central....ya'll only have one place to go :-X :-X :-X ;D

All I know is that Brook is in trouble.  I hope they don't get exploited too much for the Katy game... ;) ;)

I heard that! The problem is, we might get exploited by either of a couple of schools before we get beat down by Katy. Yes SgtRey, I know Bruce is very talented, but he has not seen a snap of varsity competition......especially at the QB position. It's going to take a few weeks for everything to fall into place, and we might have a pretty good team in the making, but we haven't done anything yet. Rankings are nice, but they dont mean a thing when it comes to winning games.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
82 5A State Champs

82 5A State Champs

Posted
Posted

So explain PNG being on it?

After reading some of the comments and hate on this thread, you don't deserve an explanation.

Great job again on the rankings!  But you of all people know that these are like the NCAA selections.  No matter how thought out they are, someone is going to gripe!

Appreciate it.. I do agree with you! Some people have no clue the amount of research, analyzing, reanalyzing and discussions it takes with different people and coaches to put this stuff together. I have spent several months on this material and to get disrespected for the results of how I put it together is an absolute insult. Cry and whine when they don't see their team in a certain spot. In the end, rankings mean nothing but I spend several months on it.

We all appreciate the hard work you put into those rankings.....but if I can make a suggestion. I know that you mostly do this work by yourself, but it would be really helpful if you could manage to stay on top of updating the site within a reasonable time after games have been played. I used to really enjoy your site, and it's still in my favorites, but I guit visiting your site because it seemed like the info was two to three weeks old, and scores were not updated regularly.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SgtRey

SgtRey

Posted
Posted

They don't know about all the superstars....Just like they don't know bout Da' Brooks superstars....guess they'll be adjusting those polls after the first few weeks....I know we'll move up at Da' Brook....Central....ya'll only have one place to go :-X :-X :-X ;D

All I know is that Brook is in trouble.  I hope they don't get exploited too much for the Katy game... ;) ;)

I heard that! The problem is, we might get exploited by either of a couple of schools before we get beat down by Katy. Yes SgtRey, I know Bruce is very talented, but he has not seen a snap of varsity competition......especially at the QB position. It's going to take a few weeks for everything to fall into place, and we might have a pretty good team in the making, but we haven't done anything yet. Rankings are nice, but they dont mean a thing when it comes to winning games.

Your right 82...did you see the scrimmage today?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
SgtRey

SgtRey

Posted
Posted

Hey TXHS FOOTBALL, who does WB got at QB and what do you know bout him?

Hey, quit trying to blow your own horn.  ;D  Remember, Bruce might not have been named the starter if Paul Falgout had not gotten numerous concussions. Paul would have most likely been the starter.

N/C....did you watch the spring game?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Member Statistics

    46,115
    Total Members
    1,837
    Most Online
    ashworth32
    Newest Member
    ashworth32
    Joined


  • Posts

    • Guitar Man
      Vidor (12) @ Bridge City (42) Q4 - Game Thread/Post Updates Here

      By Guitar Man · Posted

      Regardless of the offense, kids need a reason or purpose to play football. Normally, for most kids, football is something they genuinely enjoy playing, because most players won’t be suiting up on Saturdays. At the end of the day, the most successful teams have kids and coaches that genuinely love the game and get joy and fulfillment playing it.  Vidor’s two current biggest issues are the lack of appeal to play the game and a lack of community support. The offense has been the same for years, and Mathews did a great job of getting the kids and community behind his teams year in and year out. Vidor’s whole identity was being a team you hated to play because you knew you were in for a long physical night. That made the game fun for the kids who played, and they took a lot of pride in it. Currently, I would argue that the toxic attitude of the community towards the offense and Dubois in general is the biggest thorn in the team’s side. The need for instant gratification from fans is what is fueling it all. When the players go home or out in the community and hear: how bad the offense is, how bad the defense is, or how bad the coaching is, the players will begin to lose pride in the program, and the game is no longer fun. This leads to discipline issues and players quitting. Vidor has lost their identity and Dubois and the offensive scheme isn’t the culprit. The Vidor community needs to leave their objections of who they hired at the door and let the man work if they wanna be successful in the future. 
    • leopardfan201
      Bellville vs Sealy

      By leopardfan201 · Posted

      We will see i heard they pretty dam good 3 losses but all to great teams
    • OlDawg
      Predictions Crosby @ K-Park Thursday 10/10/2024

      By OlDawg · Posted

      Yes. May have been Jimmies. What I’m seeing is a lot more teams going back to more ‘traditional style’ offenses. These things go in cycles, and it’s very difficult for all but mega schools to consistently find QB’s who can really be effective with a true spread type offense year in and year out. I’d venture to guess most schools have an outstanding QB that can win a game almost on their own only every few years if that, and that’s what you need for the ‘high flying’ spreads. So coaches go for the O’s that they can groom the majority of kids to be successful running, and take advantage of the superstar’s skills more within that O when they get them.
    • navydawg31
      Week-7 Barbers Hill at Port Arthur Memorial Predictions 10/11

      By navydawg31 · Posted

      Always a great game… with big Ned on the road to far, I’m going to attend this one. Give me PAM! Tank going to have a 3 sack game 😎😎
    • AggiesAreWe
      Dak Prescott

      By AggiesAreWe · Posted

      That last one cost me $50

  • Topics

×
×
  • Create New...