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BCWOSfan

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What is the reason for declining enrollment? Is it that bad over there? One thing is for sure, the "no comment" by the volleyball coach speaks volumes. Why do some people think west orange is getting bashed out of jealousy? What would they be jealous of? (I am not being rude, its just that i know very little about the situation over there, and i am looking for WO-S fans to give me some info)

what does the enrollment have to do with anything? Also, what exactly are you implying with the comment "is it that bad over there?" Seems like you may be trying to get off into some other discussion...

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I know that we have already had a big discussion in another thread about whether or not its just a game or if there are life lessons attached to it....I believe the latter and really have to wonder if these kids appreciate the discussion they have caused with this issue. Everyone on the team (and their family)makes some sort of sacrifice to play-be it time, effort or whatever and also to be in drill or cheer teams, but these girls (and /or their parents) obviously missed the part of TEAM.  

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Maybe next year some local teams will step up and want to play WO-S in football and they want have to travel to places like Brokeshire Royal to play non-district games.

So now its everybody else's fault because they wont step up and play WOS? ::)

77 and AggiesWeAre must be related.  ;D ;D

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What is the reason for declining enrollment? Is it that bad over there? One thing is for sure, the "no comment" by the volleyball coach speaks volumes. Why do some people think west orange is getting bashed out of jealousy? What would they be jealous of? (I am not being rude, its just that i know very little about the situation over there, and i am looking for WO-S fans to give me some info)

Enrollement started declining when the hurricanes started and even before...Everyone is moving out into the "country". LCM's numbers have not increased and neither has BC's. So I am not sure where the kids are going or even why. No it is not bad over there either. And jealousy...... well that is an opinion. WOS takes good athletes and turns them into excellent athletes. They are smaller than most teams not only in number but size as well. IMHO

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this is crazy! 

First, W's campaign to get this thread moved is just another way of admitting he agrees that this is wrong and doesnt want it read.  If you cant argue the facts of the thread then the only thing left to do is argue the location of the thread.  Nice attempt but I hope most can see right through that.

As for the situation I think some people are getting way ahead of yourself.  I agree that what is going on is a terrible thing for the WOS program.  This should have never been allowed to go this far, but it has and I think that we need to wait and let the proper officials at WOS have a chance to get to the bottom of this.  To say that Dan Hooks has nothing to do with this and there is nothing he can do is crap.  He is the Athletic Director and has everything to do with this.  I am positive that he had nothing to do with decisions that the players have made.  I am also positive that he is just as disappointed in decsion that the players have made and can not and should not support their decisions.  I am doing my very best to keep my views and opinions to myself until I feel this matter is over.  I have faith that the officials in WOS will handle this properly.  Trust me, I will have no shortage of opinions and will have no problem speaking my peace once the time has come and I feel like it was not handled properly.  These are all just my thoughts on the matter and I thought I would share them with you.   

Mr Ryker, since you know so much, why don't you break down exactly what control over this situation you think Hooks has. Give us some examples of things he can do.

I dont know, I am not an AD or am I even going to prented I am.  I just know that at every other program I have been involved with the AD is in charge of all althletics and what goes on with athletics inlcuding the volleyball program.  If this is not the case at WOS and he is not capable of handling such a situation then let me know and Ill gladly retract my statments.  I just assumed he was, thanks.

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Maybe next year some local teams will step up and want to play WO-S in football and they want have to travel to places like Brokeshire Royal to play non-district games.

So now its everybody else's fault because they wont step up and play WOS? ::)

77 and AggiesWeAre must be related.  ;D ;D

Very logical arent we.
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Maybe next year some local teams will step up and want to play WO-S in football and they want have to travel to places like Brokeshire Royal to play non-district games.

So now its everybody else's fault because they wont step up and play WOS? ::)

That's a good point.  Do you really think it's the traveling part that's the problem.......... Why not blame it on the people that actually made the decision...........and the ones that "let" it happen.

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Maybe next year some local teams will step up and want to play WO-S in football and they want have to travel to places like Brokeshire Royal to play non-district games.

So now its everybody else's fault because they wont step up and play WOS? ::)

77 and AggiesWeAre must be related.  ;D ;D

Thank you for that compliment. ;) ;D

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I can't believe I just read 12 pages of this. 

The one thing that WosGrad typed that I did not agree with is the was the AggiesAreWe isn't a WOS hater.  This was Christmas come early to him.  His hatred has made him famous.  Congrats buddy, you are a message board Rock Star.  He doesn't respect the program or Dan Hooks.  He is envious.  Its rather close in comparison, but it is definitely envy.  I'm sure he does root for the Mustangs because he is a football fan and needs something to do in November and December when his school is no longer playing.  Its just like Cowboys fans, just because the Cowboys are not in the playoffs you still watch.  You find a team, maybe the same division or conference and you run with them just like they are your own.  But you aren't really a fan.  You are just bored and next year when the slate is clean, you go back to your Cowboys and you start complaining about the team you followed in the playoffs.  That is what he does.  He says he just does it to get at the "homers" or to get COOP all excited.  We aren't buying it.  He's just a joke.  Mustang fans are used to it.  We've been  hated on for years.  And by hated, I mean envied.

My favorite part of reading all of these pages was when COOP told AggiesAreWe "I know more than you!"

I disagree with you on this matter.  I dont think that the issue is that he or anyone else on here is jealous of your program.  AAW is a very opinionated person that not only has no problem speaking his mind but I think enjoys giving you his opinion about a matter.  AAW enjoying debating football and is looking for anyone that is willing to spare with him.  I think that your arrogance is calling him out more so than he is hating on your program.  I have no beef with WOS football and want to support it very much, but its comments like this "We aren't buying it.  He's just a joke.  Mustang fans are used to it.  We've been  hated on for years.  And by hated, I mean envied." that makes it hard to stomach WOS.  I understand completely how he feels and I can promise you its not jealousy.  If you would spend less time at the helm of your program boasting about its greatness and calling out anyone who is not bowing to your greatness jealous then you probably wouldnt have people like AAW constantly looking to say something bad about your program.   

::)  The "greatness" of WO-S' football program is not seen by most, especially if you don't have boys that have gone through the program.  It's really not JUST about football.  I know that some of you may not understand it, but until you live in this district and these men/coaches have the impact that they do on most of these young men/athletes...you won't.  I know that there are some who boasts about WO-S' greatness, but I think that there are far more who simply don't give WO-S the credit they may deserve.  Our football program does still own the title Winningest Football Program in the State of Texas-all classifications and we do go to the playoffs most years.  We really don't need to BOAST about anything because our records speak for themselves, but don't misunderstand "boasting" and all the blab that we get accused of for just pride and coming to the defense of our program when need be.  But, we could post on here all day...and will still get blasted...that is something that we're used to.  Thanks for thinking about us!! ;)

I agree with you, Im not saying that you dont deserve to be proud of your program and I will never try take anything way from what y'all have accomplished.  No doubt in my mind that y'all have the most successful program in the area, esp for the size.  I was just trying to say that when it comes to the WOS program I am pretty neutral.  I see alot more people in this forum that boast about the program and make jealousy accusations when they are unprovoked, far more than I see someone trying to bash your program.

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On Fridays the teams who have footballs games the varsity plays FIRST, HJ agreed to play at 4:00pm giving time for Hardin - Jefferson and WO - S's volleyball players to make it to each teams football game.  WO - S declined and forfeited.

Bridge City and Orangefield do NOT have football games this week, so varsity will play last after freshmen and JV.

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On Fridays the teams who have footballs games the varsity plays FIRST, HJ agreed to play at 4:00pm giving time for Hardin - Jefferson and WO - S's volleyball players to make it to each teams football game.  WO - S declined and forfeited.

Bridge City and Orangefield do NOT have football games this week, so varsity will play last after freshmen and JV.

Great but what happens when the bus has already left for the game? What if that is the only transportation they student has? How are they supposed to get from the volleyball game to the football game, in Houston, then? It would be different if the game was somewhere such as Beaumont or something but it's in Houston...

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Arent there several smaller schools in the area that are 2A and 1A that have alot smaller enrollment numbers and have to play schools alot further away.  I wonder how they manage to successfully manage a volleyball program and football program?  

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On Fridays the teams who have footballs games the varsity plays FIRST, HJ agreed to play at 4:00pm giving time for Hardin - Jefferson and WO - S's volleyball players to make it to each teams football game.  WO - S declined and forfeited.

Bridge City and Orangefield do NOT have football games this week, so varsity will play last after freshmen and JV.

Great but what happens when the bus has already left for the game? What if that is the only transportation they student has? How are they supposed to get from the volleyball game to the football game, in Houston, then? It would be different if the game was somewhere such as Beaumont or something but it's in Houston...

I think it's called planning  ;)

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I understand you need to plan but a lot of the kids at WOS rely solely on the bus system for transportation because parents are unable to do so. They should be punished for it? These kids are being punished for being involved in extracurricular activities...

Hardin - Jefferson is being punished for girls wanting to go to a football game that has zero effect on the rest of the season (district, playoffs. ect.)

HJ has to sit out an entire week without playing a game, after playing a good Orangefield team close.

What kids from WO-S are being punished?  ::) They're getting to do what they want, some punishment.  ::)

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since when is requiring a kid to stay behind and participate in a district game in a sport that they have not only made a commitment to their school to participate in,  but also to their teammates instead of watching a nondistrict football game in houston punishment?  Can someone please explain this to me?

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