Hup's Poll as of 10/10/09

[Hupernikomen]

An alternative poll to discuss while we wait on the experts to place their votes!

5A/4A        (Previous Rank)

1.  PAM       (7)  You beat NS you go to #1

2.  Central   (2)   Another tight game and another win.

3.  PNG       (5)  Time to give them some props.  One of the more impressive wins tonight.

4.  Vidor      (3)   Showdown with PNG up next.

5.  WB        (4)   Beat Channelview about like the should have. PNG jumps over with perfect record.

6.  Crosby   (10)   Took out frustration on Dayton after years of beatdowns.

7.  Dayton      (1)   Couldn't have played much worse.

8.  Lumberton   (6)  Another close loss.

9.  Livingston 8   Really didn't want to rank 9 and 10 but someone has to fill the spots.

10. Nederland NR Got a "W", will it lead to more?

3A and Under  Based on Relative Strength.

1.  Newton (top 10 2A)  Woodville kept it close for a little while.

2.  Kirbyville (top 15 2A) No problems with the Dragons.

3.  Jasper (top 15 3A)  Offense sputtered in the mud.

4.  Evadale (top 20 1A)  Hopefully the weather caused the low score against a very weak Burkeville team.

5.  Corrigan  (top 20 2A) Blowout of Buffalo.

6.  Silsbee    (top 30 3A)  Marquee win against the Stangs.

7.  WO-S   (top 30 3A)  Gut check time for the Stangs.  How do they respond from here?

8.  Anahuac (top 30 2A) Smooth sailing to the playoffs.

9.  Cleveland (top 30 3A) Class of the district.

10. Coldspring   (top 40 3A) Looking to turn heads against Cleveland.  Talent is there.

Honorable Mention

Orangefield (top 40 3A), East Chambers (top 40 2A), Bridge City (top 50 3A)

 **Evadale being above someone means they are higher ranked in their classification not that they would necessarily beat them heads up**

[NDNTime]

Hup,

I think you mean dayton at 7 and lumberton at 8.  Is that correct?

[Hupernikomen]

Hup,

I think you mean dayton at 7 and lumberton at 8.  Is that correct?

thanks i didn't finish my edit earlier.

[j_dog]

Hup, it didn't take you long to move on ....  

[Hupernikomen]

Hup, it didn't take you long to move on ....  

Yeah nothing like being the ruler of your own poll

Gives the pundits something to banter about while the experts place their votes.

[j_dog]

soon it will be time to start charging!  ;D

[Hupernikomen]

soon it will be time to start charging!   ;D

Not when my #1 team loses 28-0!

[j_dog]

soon it will be time to start charging!   ;D

Not when my #1 team loses 28-0!

i thought your REAL  #1 team won 14-0. 

[Hupernikomen]

soon it will be time to start charging!   ;D

Not when my #1 team loses 28-0!

i thought your REAL  #1 team won 14-0.   

The only team that really matters won 14-0.

[uknowit2]

Last time I checked, Cleveland was 3A.

[Hupernikomen]

Last time I checked, Cleveland was 3A.

Still is too.  Thanks.

[uknowit2]

NP. Can't argue with the rankings though, other than a 1A team over several very good 3 and 2A schools. Depth makes a big difference.

[Hupernikomen]

NP. Can't argue with the rankings though, other than a 1A team over several very good 3 and 2A schools. Depth makes a big difference.

I tried to explain what relative strength means and even gave a disclaimer at the bottom...I'd say Evadale couldn't play within 28 points of anyone in the top ten but that is not type of poll I constructed.

[uknowit2]

My bad. Didn't catch the comment at the bottom.

[BMTSoulja1]

I agree!  I wouldn't be a bit mad if Memorial took our spot as No. 1 in SETX.  Beating NS especially in a district game will do this for you!

[Hupernikomen]

I agree!  I wouldn't be a bit mad if Memorial took our spot as No. 1 in SETX.  Beating NS especially in a district game will do this for you!

I watched some of their video.  It didn't stream very well for me.  The field was horrible but you could tell that PAM has a ton of talent.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

An alternative poll to discuss while we wait on the experts to place their votes!

5A/4A        (Previous Rank)

1.  PAM       (7)  You beat NS you go to #1

2.  Central   (2)   Another tight game and another win.

3.  PNG       (5)  Time to give them some props.  One of the more impressive wins tonight.

4.  Vidor      (3)   Showdown with PNG up next.

5.  WB        (4)   Beat Channelview about like the should have. PNG jumps over with perfect record.

6.  Crosby   (10)   Took out frustration on Dayton after years of beatdowns.

7.  Dayton      (1)   Couldn't have played much worse.

8.  Lumberton   (6)  Another close loss.

9.  Livingston 8   Really didn't want to rank 9 and 10 but someone has to fill the spots.

10. Nederland NR Got a "W", will it lead to more?

3A and Under  Based on Relative Strength.

1.  Newton (top 10 2A)  Woodville kept it close for a little while.

2.  Kirbyville (top 15 2A) No problems with the Dragons.

3.  Jasper (top 15 3A)  Offense sputtered in the mud.

4.  Evadale (top 20 1A)  Hopefully the weather caused the low score against a very weak Burkeville team.

5.  Corrigan  (top 20 2A) Blowout of Buffalo.

6.  Silsbee    (top 30 3A)  Marquee win against the Stangs.

7.  WO-S   (top 30 3A)  Gut check time for the Stangs.  How do they respond from here?

8.  Anahuac (top 30 2A) Smooth sailing to the playoffs.

9.  Cleveland (top 30 3A) Class of the district.

10. Coldspring   (top 40 3A) Looking to turn heads against Cleveland.  Talent is there.

Honorable Mention

Orangefield (top 40 3A), East Chambers (top 40 2A), Bridge City (top 50 3A)

 **Evadale being above someone means they are higher ranked in their classification not that they would necessarily beat them heads up**

i likey  ;D

[Cougtalk]

An alternative poll to discuss while we wait on the experts to place their votes!

5A/4A        (Previous Rank)

1.  PAM       (7)  You beat NS you go to #1

2.  Central   (2)   Another tight game and another win.

3.  PNG       (5)  Time to give them some props.  One of the more impressive wins tonight.

4.  Vidor      (3)   Showdown with PNG up next.

5.  WB        (4)   Beat Channelview about like the should have. PNG jumps over with perfect record.

6.  Crosby   (10)   Took out frustration on Dayton after years of beatdowns.

7.  Dayton      (1)   Couldn't have played much worse.

8.  Lumberton   (6)  Another close loss.

9.  Livingston 8   Really didn't want to rank 9 and 10 but someone has to fill the spots.

10. Nederland NR Got a "W", will it lead to more?

3A and Under  Based on Relative Strength.

1.  Newton (top 10 2A)  Woodville kept it close for a little while.

2.  Kirbyville (top 15 2A) No problems with the Dragons.

3.  Jasper (top 15 3A)  Offense sputtered in the mud.

4.  Evadale (top 20 1A)  Hopefully the weather caused the low score against a very weak Burkeville team.

5.  Corrigan  (top 20 2A) Blowout of Buffalo.

6.  Silsbee    (top 30 3A)  Marquee win against the Stangs.

7.  WO-S   (top 30 3A)  Gut check time for the Stangs.  How do they respond from here?

8.  Anahuac (top 30 2A) Smooth sailing to the playoffs.

9.  Cleveland (top 30 3A) Class of the district.

10. Coldspring   (top 40 3A) Looking to turn heads against Cleveland.  Talent is there.

Honorable Mention

Orangefield (top 40 3A), East Chambers (top 40 2A), Bridge City (top 50 3A)

 **Evadale being above someone means they are higher ranked in their classification not that they would necessarily beat them heads up**

Fan Alert but here me out regardless 6.  Crosby  (10)  Took out frustration on Dayton after years of beatdowns.

Crosby moves from 10 to 6 after a shutout? of a district opponent... i guess i have only one question and its one of Bias.

If Nederland would of shut-out and beat PNG 28-0 when they played in mid county madness i find it hard to believe you wouldn't of put them in the top 3. Their obviously not the best team... but i expected a bigger surge than up four spots.

my ranking are just by your logic

"PAM      (7)  You beat NS you go to #1" mine is you beat an undefeated rival whom you haven't beat in ten years you jump into top 5, i think everyone's giving Crosby to little credit because of 5 turnovers (4 fumbles 1 interception) regardless I'm sure the Broncos had the ball atleast 8-9 times which means the Defense still had to rise up to the occasion.

5A/4A        (Previous Rank)

1.  PAM      (7)  You beat NS you go to #1

2.  Central  (2)  Another tight game and another win.

3.  PNG      (5)  Time to give them some props.  One of the more impressive wins tonight.

4.  Crosby  (10)  Took out frustration on Dayton after years of beatdowns.

5.  Vidor      (3)  Showdown with PNG up next.

6.  WB        (4)  Beat Channelview about like they should have. PNG jumps over with perfect record.

7.  Dayton      (1)  Couldn't have played much worse.

8.  Lumberton  (6)  Another close loss.

9.  Livingston 8  Really didn't want to rank 9 and 10 but someone has to fill the spots.

10. Nederland NR Got a "W", will it lead to more?

Maybe its my Biased maybe its yours or maybe its a combination of both... Dunno but id liek a response.

[NorthoftheBorder]

I think Lumberton moves ahead of Dayton and Crosby.  Jasper beat Kirbyville and should be ahead of them.

[Cougtalk]

I think Lumberton moves ahead of Dayton and Crosby.  Jasper beat Kirbyville and should be ahead of them.

They loss their no justification for them moving up...

[Hupernikomen]

I think Lumberton moves ahead of Dayton and Crosby.  Jasper beat Kirbyville and should be ahead of them.

Jasper's poll is based on relative strength within their conference.  Kirbyville is the higher ranked team of the two at this point.

As far as Crosby needing to be 5th instead of 6th..I rank those teams based on who would beat who IMO.  I think Crosby would get smoked by any of the teams ranked ahead of them.

[AggiesAreWe]

I think Lumberton moves ahead of Dayton and Crosby.  Jasper beat Kirbyville and should be ahead of them.

Jasper's poll is based on relative strength within their conference.  Kirbyville is the higher ranked team of the two at this point.

As far as Crosby needing to be 5th instead of 6th..I rank those teams based on who would beat who IMO.  I think Crosby would get smoked by any of the teams ranked ahead of them.

Hup, you contradict yourself. You say you rank Crosby lower because you THINK they would lose to the teams ranked ahead of them. But you rank Evadale ahead of teams that you say would beat them. That's not very credible.

BTW, a team actually beating another team carries more weight than a speculative win. :

[Hupernikomen]

I think Lumberton moves ahead of Dayton and Crosby.  Jasper beat Kirbyville and should be ahead of them.

Jasper's poll is based on relative strength within their conference.  Kirbyville is the higher ranked team of the two at this point.

As far as Crosby needing to be 5th instead of 6th..I rank those teams based on who would beat who IMO.  I think Crosby would get smoked by any of the teams ranked ahead of them.

Hup, you contradict yourself. You say you rank Crosby lower because you THINK they would lose to the teams ranked ahead of them. But you rank Evadale ahead of teams that you say would beat them. That's not very credible.

BTW, a team actually beating another team carries more weight than a speculative win. :

How many times do I have explain that the 2 ranking systems are different?

The 4A/5A RANKING is heads up ranking.  The 3A and Under is based on RELATIVE STRENGTH to be fair to the smaller schools.

[Hupernikomen]

The solution is pretty simple.  I won't even bother doing 4A/5A.  Kinda meaningless to rank them anyways with it being mainly one district and  two 5A schools.

[PURPLE 4EVER]

Remember...

The true winner of these polls is the last team left playing...

Hopefully some of these teams will be playing in December.

Being ranked #1 now doesn't mean anything if you get knocked out of the playoffs in week 1.

Just ask Lumberton last year how much their district cochampion carried them into the playoffs.