KFDM Sports - WOS football player, two other students suspended

[td]

Fact is there are plenty of "people" lurking in the fringes waiting to trash WOS for any reason. The ambulance chasers, high speed car chase watchers, and rubber-neckers of the world smell blood. Fingers are primed and ready to tear down a kid and program for a stupid mistake. We took a lot of heat for our 5 kids last year, heck people still make comments about it. Bottom line is, it makes some people feel better about themselves if they can trash someone else.

You Sir, have just hit the proverbial nail on the head.

[WOSgrad]

yes your correct.  I wasnt referring to this site should handle anything different.  I think this site has done a very good job of handling this situation.  I was more referring to the maybe the school district or local athorities could be providing this information.  There is no doubt in my mind that it is being handled correctly and promptly but the silence to some is an indication of instant cover up.  Alot of people and several on here esp think with the conspiracy theory attitude and assume cover up. I just was hoping that the local authorities could start filling in some of the gaps without hurting their investigation.  Its just my opinion but I think it would help shut some of these people up!

Yeah, but caution is being used by all for the very same reason.  The school district, local media and local authorities want to make sure that ALL ducks are in a row before proceeding with public disclosure.  They are investigating, re-investigating and then triple checking their facts.  As I understand that those involved are lawyered up, it is the only prudent course for these entities to take.  They want to make sure they are protected....curiousity of the viewing public is of very little concern to them at this point.

[Slam14]

Fact is there are plenty of "people" lurking in the fringes waiting to trash WOS for any reason. The ambulance chasers, high speed car chase watchers, and rubber-neckers of the world smell blood. Fingers are primed and ready to tear down a kid and program for a stupid mistake. We took a lot of heat for our 5 kids last year, heck people still make comments about it. Bottom line is, it makes some people feel better about themselves if they can trash someone else.

  This post gets my vote for "Truest Post of the Month"!

[SETXsports Broadcaster]

School boards , schools, law enforcement, have to take everything very carefully when dealing with young adults,   the phrase "kids will be kids" really doesn't cut it in our society any more, because it soon becomes "adults will be adults"  .  One suspension will seem out of line "as the young 6 years old with the camping utensil"  while the same suspension would seem to lenient " as with a youngster bringing a gun to school"  but both are the same violation, both carry the same punishment.  so does the school just make up the punishment as they go?  every case has its own set of circumstances, and the school has to go by the law, until it can be discussed at a board meeting.  let the board decide what the next step is, that's what they get paid for.    

Man talk about a run on sentence.

[td]

School boards , schools, law enforcement, have to take everything very carefully when dealing with young adults,   the phrase "kids will be kids" really doesn't cut it in our society any more, because it soon becomes "adults will be adults"  .  One suspension will seem out of line "as the young 6 years old with the camping utensil"  while the same suspension would seem to lenient " as with a youngster bringing a gun to school"  but both are the same violation, both carry the same punishment.  so does the school just make up the punishment as they go?  every case has its own set of circumstances, and the school has to go by the law, until it can be discussed at a board meeting.  let the board decide what the next step is, that's what they get paid for.    

Man talk about a run on sentence.

This whole thing is confusing as to why the school is involved. As far as I know law enforcement isn't involved. If any of this has changed I guess it will come out sooner or later. Obviously only the kids know the whole truth.

[AggiesAreWe]

The news article I read this morning stated that the player is suspended from the team but not from school.

???

[td]

The news article I read this morning stated that the player is suspended from the team but not from school.

???

Like I said, maybe it's not a school issue. I'm not saying one way or the other, but, if whatever this is didn't happen at school, how can you suspend them from school?

[AggiesAreWe]

If it's not a school issue, then why does it need a school board meeting to solve it?

I have been informed as to what happened and I will not discuss it. But the media and the school is not helping matters with the statements being made.

As far as I am concerned, this never should have been a story. Mostly political.

[GUNHO]

Well I have read eight pages now and you guys are doing a great job of saying nothing.Why don't you go ahead and lock this thread...reopen it when the facts are made public and then we can discuss it.I'm through.

[KFDM COOP]

If it's not a school issue, then why does it need a school board meeting to solve it?

I have been informed as to what happened and I will not discuss it. But the media and the school is not helping matters with the statements being made.

As far as I am concerned, this never should have been a story. Mostly political.

I agree! MOSTLY Political!

[the sports guy]

I don't know what happened.  I don't know what the kids did or didn't do.  

I know this. I'm tired of seeing kids get into hot water situations that will have an bad impact on their future.  

I miss problems like....getting in trouble for taking a few of Mr. Jones watermelons.  I can deal with that one!  

 

[AggiesAreWe]

I don't know what happened.  I don't know what the kids did or didn't do.  

I know this. I'm tired of seeing kids get into hot water situations that will have an bad impact on their future.  

I miss problems like....getting in trouble for taking a few of Mr. Jones watermelons.  I can deal with that one!  

 

Or like hanging a couple of 10 and 8 pound catfish halfway down someone's chimney. ;D

[the sports guy]

I don't know what happened.  I don't know what the kids did or didn't do.  

I know this. I'm tired of seeing kids get into hot water situations that will have an bad impact on their future.  

I miss problems like....getting in trouble for taking a few of Mr. Jones watermelons.  I can deal with that one!  

 

Or like hanging a couple of 10 and 8 pound catfish halfway down someone's chimney. ;D

[Guest Silsbee88]

School boards , schools, law enforcement, have to take everything very carefully when dealing with young adults,   the phrase "kids will be kids" really doesn't cut it in our society any more, because it soon becomes "adults will be adults"  .  One suspension will seem out of line "as the young 6 years old with the camping utensil"  while the same suspension would seem to lenient " as with a youngster bringing a gun to school"  but both are the same violation, both carry the same punishment.  so does the school just make up the punishment as they go?  every case has its own set of circumstances, and the school has to go by the law, until it can be discussed at a board meeting.  let the board decide what the next step is, that's what they get paid for.   

Man talk about a run on sentence.

Broadcaster, I happen to know for a fact that the school board gets paid for NOTHING!  ;D ;D ;D

[td]

If it's not a school issue, then why does it need a school board meeting to solve it?

I have been informed as to what happened and I will not discuss it. But the media and the school is not helping matters with the statements being made.

As far as I am concerned, this never should have been a story. Mostly political.

That's a great question. Do you have an answer for it?

I'm not real sure what part politics plays in the whole thing but everyone has an opinion.

[thetragichippy]

If it's not a school issue, then why does it need a school board meeting to solve it?

I have been informed as to what happened and I will not discuss it. But the media and the school is not helping matters with the statements being made.

As far as I am concerned, this never should have been a story. Mostly political.

That's a great question. Do you have an answer for it?

I'm not real sure what part politics plays in the whole thing but everyone has an opinion.

Personal opinion....the schools and school boards try to have too much power off school grounds.  The schools should educate our kids period.... and let the parents (or authorities) handle off campus activities.  I think the mystery is what has gotten everyones attention.

[Guest Silsbee88]

The news article I read this morning stated that the player is suspended from the team but not from school.

???

Like I said, maybe it's not a school issue. I'm not saying one way or the other, but, if whatever this is didn't happen at school, how can you suspend them from school?

TD, this is taken straight from WOS handbook, I am just saying:

OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES

Radios, CD Players, Cell Phones, and Other Electronic Devices and Games

“Telecommunication device†is any device that emits an audible signal, vibrates, displays a message, or

otherwise summons or delivers a communication to the possessor, including cell phones and pagers. The District

prohibits the visible display of a telecommunication device during regular school hours while the student is on school

property unless prior approval is obtained from the principal. No student shall possess or control a telecommunication device (pagers, cellular phones, laser pointers, CD players, radios, stun guns or cameras, games, etc.) that is turned on during regular school hours while the student is on school property. Students who violate this policy shall be subject to established disciplinary measures. District employees shall confiscate any device that is turned on during regular school hours. Parents shall be notified after the device is confiscated that the device may be released to the parent for a fee of $15.00 or the device will remain in the possession of the school for a period of 30 days, after which it may be released to the parent or disposed of. [see policy FNCE]

    · Electronic equipment is subject to search in the event school administrators believe reasonable suspicion exists

      to support the search.

    · Cell phones are prohibited from testing environment.

    · Cell phones or any device that permits recording the voice or image of another in any way that either            disrupts the educational environment, invades the privacy of others, or is made without the prior consent of the individuals being recorded is prohibited.

Inappropriate Use of Technology

Students are prohibited from sending or posting electronic messages that are abusive, obscene, sexually oriented,

threatening, harassing, damaging to another’s reputation, or illegal. This prohibition applies to conduct off school property if it results in a substantial disruption to the educational environment. Any person taking, disseminating, transferring, or sharing obscene, sexually oriented, lewd, or otherwise illegal images or photographs will be disciplined according to the Student Code of Conduct and may, in certain circumstances, be reported to law enforcement.

[td]

The news article I read this morning stated that the player is suspended from the team but not from school.

???

Like I said, maybe it's not a school issue. I'm not saying one way or the other, but, if whatever this is didn't happen at school, how can you suspend them from school?

TD, this is taken straight from WOS handbook, I am just saying:

OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES

Radios, CD Players, Cell Phones, and Other Electronic Devices and Games

“Telecommunication device†is any device that emits an audible signal, vibrates, displays a message, or

otherwise summons or delivers a communication to the possessor, including cell phones and pagers. The District

prohibits the visible display of a telecommunication device during regular school hours while the student is on school

property unless prior approval is obtained from the principal. No student shall possess or control a telecommunication

device (pagers, cellular phones, laser pointers, CD players, radios, stun guns or cameras, games, etc.) that is turned on

during regular school hours while the student is on school property. Students who violate this policy shall be subject to

established disciplinary measures. District employees shall confiscate any device that is turned on during regular school

hours. Parents shall be notified after the device is confiscated that the device may be released to the parent for a fee of

$15.00 or the device will remain in the possession of the school for a period of 30 days, after which it may be released to

the parent or disposed of. [see policy FNCE]

· Electronic equipment is subject to search in the event school administrators believe reasonable suspicion exists

to support the search.

· Cell phones are prohibited from testing environment.

· Cell phones or any device that permits recording the voice or image of another in any way that either disrupts the

educational environment, invades the privacy of others, or is made without the prior consent of the individuals

being recorded is prohibited.

Inappropriate Use of Technology

Students are prohibited from sending or posting electronic messages that are abusive, obscene, sexually oriented,

threatening, harassing, damaging to another’s reputation, or illegal. This prohibition applies to conduct off school property

if it results in a substantial disruption to the educational environment. Any person taking, disseminating, transferring, or

sharing obscene, sexually oriented, lewd, or otherwise illegal images or photographs will be disciplined according to the

Student Code of Conduct and may, in certain circumstances, be reported to law enforcement.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, if this happened off grounds the only way they should be involved is if it disrupted the education environment. I'm not arguing either side. I'm just posing a question. Again, as far as I know there are no authorities involved.

[kicker]

??? We never had any issues exploited like this when I was in school, but we didnt have cell phones yet either. Dont know what happened so im not going to speculate. As far as someone saying school's shouldnt have authority over non school activities, but some people need to realize it might be the only authority figure they have and an education doesnt just mean math or grammar it also means dicipline and guidance for your adulthood. JMO.

[td]

??? We never had any issues exploited like this when I was in school, but we didnt have cell phones yet either. Dont know what happened so im not going to speculate. As far as someone saying school's shouldnt have authority over non school activities, but some people need to realize it might be the only authority figure they have and an education doesnt just mean math or grammar it also means dicipline and guidance for your adulthood. JMO.

So how do you determine if the school should or shouldn't be involved? In this case the parents are very involved. Are you wanting the school to discipline over the parents? If not where do you draw the line. We can't have it both ways. You can't have the school determine if they are the only authority or not, or if the parent isn't making the right choice for the child. I have to say I disagree with what you are saying. The school is responsible for discipline at school and at school functions and or events not what happens at home or away from campus on the weekends. Now code of conduct policies I do understand. However, I also believe in the fact that the government already has too much power. Less is more.

[kicker]

??? We never had any issues exploited like this when I was in school, but we didnt have cell phones yet either. Dont know what happened so im not going to speculate. As far as someone saying school's shouldnt have authority over non school activities, but some people need to realize it might be the only authority figure they have and an education doesnt just mean math or grammar it also means dicipline and guidance for your adulthood. JMO.

So how do you determine if the school should or shouldn't be involved? In this case the parents are very involved. Are you wanting the school to discipline over the parents? If not where do you draw the line. We can't have it both ways. You can't have the school determine if they are the only authority or not, or if the parent isn't making the right choice for the child. I have to say I disagree with what you are saying. The school is responsible for discipline at school and at school functions and or events not what happens at home or away from campus on the weekends. Now code of conduct policies I do understand. However, I also believe in the fact that the government already has too much power. Less is more.

Well we didnt have to worry about the school or our parents, it was coach T. That man found out what we did everytime we did it. If we went to a party on a Sat night, he knew on Monday and believe me, we had to pay. Of course it didnthelp that I was running with his son either. haha

[td]

??? We never had any issues exploited like this when I was in school, but we didnt have cell phones yet either. Dont know what happened so im not going to speculate. As far as someone saying school's shouldnt have authority over non school activities, but some people need to realize it might be the only authority figure they have and an education doesnt just mean math or grammar it also means dicipline and guidance for your adulthood. JMO.

So how do you determine if the school should or shouldn't be involved? In this case the parents are very involved. Are you wanting the school to discipline over the parents? If not where do you draw the line. We can't have it both ways. You can't have the school determine if they are the only authority or not, or if the parent isn't making the right choice for the child. I have to say I disagree with what you are saying. The school is responsible for discipline at school and at school functions and or events not what happens at home or away from campus on the weekends. Now code of conduct policies I do understand. However, I also believe in the fact that the government already has too much power. Less is more.

Well we didnt have to worry about the school or our parents, it was coach T. That man found out what we did everytime we did it. If we went to a party on a Sat night, he knew on Monday and believe me, we had to pay. Of course it didnthelp that I was running with his son either. haha

Same thing with Coach Andy but that was a Coach personally handling a code of conduct situation. Not a school board.........

[kicker]

??? We never had any issues exploited like this when I was in school, but we didnt have cell phones yet either. Dont know what happened so im not going to speculate. As far as someone saying school's shouldnt have authority over non school activities, but some people need to realize it might be the only authority figure they have and an education doesnt just mean math or grammar it also means dicipline and guidance for your adulthood. JMO.

So how do you determine if the school should or shouldn't be involved? In this case the parents are very involved. Are you wanting the school to discipline over the parents? If not where do you draw the line. We can't have it both ways. You can't have the school determine if they are the only authority or not, or if the parent isn't making the right choice for the child. I have to say I disagree with what you are saying. The school is responsible for discipline at school and at school functions and or events not what happens at home or away from campus on the weekends. Now code of conduct policies I do understand. However, I also believe in the fact that the government already has too much power. Less is more.

Well we didnt have to worry about the school or our parents, it was coach T. That man found out what we did everytime we did it. If we went to a party on a Sat night, he knew on Monday and believe me, we had to pay. Of course it didnthelp that I was running with his son either. haha

Same thing with Coach Andy but that was a Coach personally handling a code of conduct situation. Not a school board.........

I see what your saying. I just think the school should have some pull over the dicipline of a kid outside of school.

[Guest Silsbee88]

The news article I read this morning stated that the player is suspended from the team but not from school.

???

Like I said, maybe it's not a school issue. I'm not saying one way or the other, but, if whatever this is didn't happen at school, how can you suspend them from school?

TD, this is taken straight from WOS handbook, I am just saying:

OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES

Radios, CD Players, Cell Phones, and Other Electronic Devices and Games

“Telecommunication device†is any device that emits an audible signal, vibrates, displays a message, or

otherwise summons or delivers a communication to the possessor, including cell phones and pagers. The District

prohibits the visible display of a telecommunication device during regular school hours while the student is on school

property unless prior approval is obtained from the principal. No student shall possess or control a telecommunication

device (pagers, cellular phones, laser pointers, CD players, radios, stun guns or cameras, games, etc.) that is turned on

during regular school hours while the student is on school property. Students who violate this policy shall be subject to

established disciplinary measures. District employees shall confiscate any device that is turned on during regular school

hours. Parents shall be notified after the device is confiscated that the device may be released to the parent for a fee of

$15.00 or the device will remain in the possession of the school for a period of 30 days, after which it may be released to

the parent or disposed of. [see policy FNCE]

· Electronic equipment is subject to search in the event school administrators believe reasonable suspicion exists

to support the search.

· Cell phones are prohibited from testing environment.

· Cell phones or any device that permits recording the voice or image of another in any way that either disrupts the

educational environment, invades the privacy of others, or is made without the prior consent of the individuals

being recorded is prohibited.

Inappropriate Use of Technology

Students are prohibited from sending or posting electronic messages that are abusive, obscene, sexually oriented,

threatening, harassing, damaging to another’s reputation, or illegal. This prohibition applies to conduct off school property

if it results in a substantial disruption to the educational environment. Any person taking, disseminating, transferring, or

sharing obscene, sexually oriented, lewd, or otherwise illegal images or photographs will be disciplined according to the

Student Code of Conduct and may, in certain circumstances, be reported to law enforcement.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, if this happened off grounds the only way they should be involved is if it disrupted the education environment. I'm not arguing either side. I'm just posing a question. Again, as far as I know there are no authorities involved.

TD,

I think this is what gets you:

· Cell phones or any device that permits recording the voice or image of another in any way that either disrupts the

educational environment, invades the privacy of others, or is made without the prior consent of the individuals

being recorded is prohibited.

[Gasilla]

TD,

I think this is what gets you:

· Cell phones or any device that permits recording the voice or image of another in any way that either disrupts the

educational environment, invades the privacy of others, or is made without the prior consent of the individuals

being recorded is prohibited.

This does not apply with respect to why the suspension was made.