AggiesAreWe Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Saw some talk suggesting that Coldspring should intentionally lose their game this week to Liberty to allow Shepherd into the playoffs thus putting Coldspring facing Bridge City in the 1st round rather than WOS. This also would eliminate Huffman from making the playoffs and sending Cleveland to Div.I to face Silsbee in the 1st round instead of going DII and facing Bridge City.I honestly don't see the Coldspring coaches doing this and I imagine the Huffman and Cleveland coaching staffs would have a big problem with this also. But, it is food for thought.What are you guys opinions on this scenario? Should they, or shouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-daddy Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I say they should rest their starters to make sure they are "fresh" for the playoffs...I dont know if Barbay feels the same way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya_know Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 They will not do it. I believe they think they can get a big enough lead early and still be able to rest the starters. How do you tell kids in high school that you want them to intentionally lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name="ya_know" post="696651" timestamp="1257344778"]They will not do it. I believe they think they can get a big enough lead early and still be able to rest the starters. How do you tell kids in high school that you want them to intentionally lose?[/quote]I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BOOGER Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 IF they do it, it will be an embarassment to coaching! I agree with ya_know, how do tell a kid to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WO-S 89 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Didn't Waco LaVega do it a couple of years ago to put them in Div.I instead of Div.II. It got them to the state championship game instead of lossing to Gilmer in the 2nd. rd. of the Div. II playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 i dont think they will play thier QB because they wont take a chance on chad getting hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name="WO-S 89" post="696664" timestamp="1257345482"]Didn't Waco LaVega do it a couple of years ago to put them in Div.I instead of Div.II. It got them to the state championship game instead of lossing to Gilmer in the 2nd. rd. of the Div. II playoffs. [/quote]Is that a yes, they should? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [size=14pt]I would think that you would play to win.... as said in earlier post... you get a big lead and then rest your starters... let them get some work and stay sharp... but do not put them in a position to be hurt in a blowout game... I do not think a coach would put his players who he has tried to keep momentum with all year long makes them stumble going into the playoffs... I surely would not... you want to go in on a good note, knowing that in the end, [b]you have to beat the best to be called the best..... [/b] In my honest opinion if you deliberatly loose a game so you do not have to play a certain team shows no confidence in your own team.... and if they find out you have done this to them... could put a very big dent in your relationship, not only with the current team, but players and parents coming up that will have no trust in the coach.... I say NO play the game and decide it on the field not over a playoff pairing... [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WO-S 89 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="696673" timestamp="1257345883"][quote author=WO-S 89 link=topic=61833.msg696664#msg696664 date=1257345482]Didn't Waco LaVega do it a couple of years ago to put them in Div.I instead of Div.II. It got them to the state championship game instead of lossing to Gilmer in the 2nd. rd. of the Div. II playoffs. [/quote]Is that a yes, they should?[/quote]No it's not right. I was just saying it almost worked out for Waco LaVega. I care less who we play in the 1st. rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name="WO-S 89" post="696681" timestamp="1257346215"][quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=61833.msg696673#msg696673 date=1257345883][quote author=WO-S 89 link=topic=61833.msg696664#msg696664 date=1257345482]Didn't Waco LaVega do it a couple of years ago to put them in Div.I instead of Div.II. It got them to the state championship game instead of lossing to Gilmer in the 2nd. rd. of the Div. II playoffs. [/quote]Is that a yes, they should?[/quote]No it's not right. I was just saying it almost worked out for Waco LaVega. I care less who we play in the 1st. rd. [/quote]My question has nothing to do with who WOS or even Silsbee plays. I was asking if you are the coach of Coldspring, would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WO-S 89 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="696690" timestamp="1257346612"][quote author=WO-S 89 link=topic=61833.msg696681#msg696681 date=1257346215][quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=61833.msg696673#msg696673 date=1257345883][quote author=WO-S 89 link=topic=61833.msg696664#msg696664 date=1257345482]Didn't Waco LaVega do it a couple of years ago to put them in Div.I instead of Div.II. It got them to the state championship game instead of lossing to Gilmer in the 2nd. rd. of the Div. II playoffs. [/quote]Is that a yes, they should?[/quote]No it's not right. I was just saying it almost worked out for Waco LaVega. I care less who we play in the 1st. rd. [/quote]My question has nothing to do with who WOS or even Silsbee plays. I was asking if you are the coach of Coldspring, would you do it?[/quote]To answer your question----------No they don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty99 Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I would highly doubt that Coach Barbay would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoboandBlair Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 1. You play to win games, not take the easy road.2. I don't think Barbay and Coldspring is afraid of WOS. This WOS team isn't as good as they have been the past few years.3. If both teams are good enough, you would have to play them at some point down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipper Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 this i funny. coldsprings will not do that well all know that :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFDM COOP Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Coldspring will win Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipper Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted November 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I say they will win handily. Starters will sit the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggen Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 the thing is, Coldspring could still sit there starters and beat liberty with mostly back-ups in the game.......C-spring will play to win and when the game is in hand the starters will be on the sideline eating hotdogs and Nachos like Mark Sanchez..... ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncplaya Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name="biggen" post="696834" timestamp="1257353033"]the thing is, Coldspring could still sit there starters and beat liberty with mostly back-ups in the game.......C-spring will play to win and when the game is in hand the starters will be on the sideline eating hotdogs and Nachos like Mark Sanchez..... ;D[/quote]and like biggen. lol. What time yall play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urgf Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Coldspring will win Friday, and perhaps beat WOS. It will definately be a tough game for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1KatKiller Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I agree. The Dc at Coldspring is the former header at Orangefield and I know for a fact that he wants a crack at WOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltex Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 No Sir.Play every game to win whoever the opponent is.To be the best play the best-Throw it all out there and always believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasilla Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I don't think any coach would go into a game with the intentions of losing it. That being said, if he doesn't start his vital players to rest them and keep them from injury and starts the backups and they lose then that's a different story. Like someone mentioned earlier, LaVega went to the state finals last year because they rested their starters the last game of the season and lost. Some people said they threw the game, others said he was a genius for doing it. Whichever it was, it gave him a shot at the title which is everyone's ultimate goal. I personally don't think Barbay will rest his starters just because of who he is. But I will say this, I guarantee you that if he does start Andrew Leigh and Chad Allen and one of them sustains a seson ending injury, you can bet that there will be doubters on this board saying, "Why risk your starters in a meaningless game?"" They have clinched a playoff spot. Losing this game will not kill them and will, in fact, give them a better chance to advance to the next round. If you look at it from a coaching stand point, he gains nothing by risking his players friday except for a little pride and people on message boards claiming he took a dive (which I really don't think he gives a crap about). All in all, it will be interesting to see what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 [quote name="Gasilla" post="696913" timestamp="1257357157"]I don't think any coach would go into a game with the intentions of losing it. That being said, if he doesn't start his vital players to rest them and keep them from injury and starts the backups and they lose then that's a different story. Like someone mentioned earlier, LaVega went to the state finals last year because they rested their starters the last game of the season and lost. Some people said they threw the game, others said he was a genius for doing it. Whichever it was, it gave him a shot at the title which is everyone's ultimate goal. I personally don't think Barbay will rest his starters just because of who he is. But I will say this, I guarantee you that if he does start Andrew Leigh and Chad Allen and one of them sustains a seson ending injury, you can bet that there will be doubters on this board saying, "Why risk your starters in a meaningless game?"" They have clinched a playoff spot. Losing this game will not kill them and will, in fact, give them a better chance to advance to the next round. If you look at it from a coaching stand point, he gains nothing by risking his players friday except for a little pride and people on message boards claiming he took a dive (which I really don't think he gives a crap about). All in all, it will be interesting to see what he does.[/quote]I agree 110%. Good post gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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