19 4A VS 20 4A Who will come out on top???

[lcm2007ms]

I see 20-4a going 3-1 with vidor losing to Dayton. Of couse I will be pulling for the pirates and hope you guys take it

[7mary3]

PNG, Central, Crosby, Dayton....they split it...my upset special will be the Ned v Crosby game.  Nederland can totally win this one.

[D3zii]

Vidor can beat Dayton IMO

[VP93....]

Sweep for 20 4A...

[D3zii]

It would be a 20-4A sweep way before it would be a 19-4A Sweep..i agree with VP 93 ... :)

[PURPLE 4EVER]

Having seen the 19-4A teams...
There is a big drop off between Dayton and Crosby then the 3rd and 4th place teams, the same is probably true with PN-G and Central.
The top two teams are 1st and 2nd for a reason, they are better than the 3rd and 4th place teams.
Look for all four top seeds to advance, if there is an upset....
I think it will be from Barbers Hill and GC Memorial.

[BMTSoulja1]

Not neccessary, though.  Last year's Jag team finished 3rd in the district with losses to Livingston and Lumberton which were co-district champs.  We outlasted them in the playoffs, which our two top ranked teams got bounced in the first round.  Even our 4th place team Nederland got to the second round...

[shovel]

[quote name="PURPLE 4EVER" post="701466" timestamp="1257686145"]
Having seen the 19-4A teams...
There is a big drop off between Dayton and Crosby then the 3rd and 4th place teams, [b]the same is probably true with PN-G and Central.[/b]The top two teams are 1st and 2nd for a reason, they are better than the 3rd and 4th place teams.
Look for all four top seeds to advance, if there is an upset....
I think it will be from Barbers Hill and GC Memorial.
[/quote]

I disagree. While PNG and Central are strong, don't underestimate Vidor or Nederland. Vidor has some BIG, experienced kids and some horsepower in the backfield. It will take a strong defense to slow them down. Nederland got derailed early in the season with injuries. They have filled those holes and are getting better every week. 20-4A is much stronger across the board than it has been in years. While we usually have 1 or 2 strong teams, this year, everybody was tough. If I were to bet, I'd pick Central and PNG to win. But I wouldn't bet against Vidor or Nederland. Gonna be some good games this weekend!

[silly365]

i couldnt agree with you more!!!

[Jackthehammer]

Chef Ken Kenechi

[Cougtalk]

[quote name="stillanut" post="700766" timestamp="1257615387"]
20-4A Sweeps!
[/quote]
Maybe if you mean the 20-4a of like 4 years ago u know... Dayton Crosby...

[Cougtalk]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="701486" timestamp="1257690113"]
Not neccessary, though.  Last year's Jag team finished 3rd in the district with losses to Livingston and Lumberton which were co-district champs.  We outlasted them in the playoffs, which our two top ranked teams got bounced in the first round.  Even our 4th place team Nederland got to the second round...
[/quote]

Yeah But lumberton Ran into Crosby =P

Fun Fact... just thinking back... Crosby Lost two years in a row to Dayton in first round... (both Years Dayton went deep in playoffs)

So without Dayton in the picture Crosby is 1-1 In Bidistricts VS the current 20-4a Lost to Central in 05-06 and Beat Lumberton Last year...

Dayton just wins playoff games...

[liltex]

That's what they play for.Thanks

[Guest octfeb]

[quote name="Cougtalk" post="702325" timestamp="1257750032"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=62041.msg701486#msg701486 date=1257690113]
Not neccessary, though.  Last year's Jag team finished 3rd in the district with losses to Livingston and Lumberton which were co-district champs.  We outlasted them in the playoffs, which our two top ranked teams got bounced in the first round.  Even our 4th place team Nederland got to the second round...
[/quote]

Yeah But lumberton Ran into Crosby =P

Fun Fact... just thinking back... Crosby Lost two years in a row to Dayton in first round... (both Years Dayton went deep in playoffs)

So without Dayton in the picture Crosby is 1-1 In Bidistricts VS the current 20-4a Lost to Central in 05-06 and Beat Lumberton Last year...

Dayton just wins playoff games...


[/quote]Yeah yall over there in 20-4A keep saying 19-4A is the weaker district.Like I asked in another thread who went to the finals last year and who went to the semi finals the year before? was it A.20-4A or was it B.19-4A ???      ANSWER: 19-4A :o

[TradinUp BH]

[quote name="octfeb" post="702359" timestamp="1257771995"]
[quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=62041.msg702325#msg702325 date=1257750032]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=62041.msg701486#msg701486 date=1257690113]
Not neccessary, though.  Last year's Jag team finished 3rd in the district with losses to Livingston and Lumberton which were co-district champs.  We outlasted them in the playoffs, which our two top ranked teams got bounced in the first round.  Even our 4th place team Nederland got to the second round...
[/quote]

Yeah But lumberton Ran into Crosby =P

Fun Fact... just thinking back... Crosby Lost two years in a row to Dayton in first round... (both Years Dayton went deep in playoffs)

So without Dayton in the picture Crosby is 1-1 In Bidistricts VS the current 20-4a Lost to Central in 05-06 and Beat Lumberton Last year...

Dayton just wins playoff games...


[/quote]Yeah yall over there in 20-4A keep saying 19-4A is the weaker district.Like I asked in another thread who went to the finals last year and who went to the semi finals the year before? was it A.20-4A or was it B.19-4A ???      ANSWER: 19-4A :o
[/quote]

Dayton ::) This has been the last couple of years, you start talking about past, and 19-4A is nothing. You can only hang your hat on two good years at Dayton WOW ::) Your the one bringing up the past and I'll put our district teams history versus 19-4A any day. Get ready for the beat down your going to get ;D

[dayton]

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="702368" timestamp="1257773584"]
[quote author=octfeb link=topic=62041.msg702359#msg702359 date=1257771995]
[quote author=Cougtalk link=topic=62041.msg702325#msg702325 date=1257750032]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=62041.msg701486#msg701486 date=1257690113]
Not neccessary, though.  Last year's Jag team finished 3rd in the district with losses to Livingston and Lumberton which were co-district champs.  We outlasted them in the playoffs, which our two top ranked teams got bounced in the first round.  Even our 4th place team Nederland got to the second round...
[/quote]

Yeah But lumberton Ran into Crosby =P

Fun Fact... just thinking back... Crosby Lost two years in a row to Dayton in first round... (both Years Dayton went deep in playoffs)

So without Dayton in the picture Crosby is 1-1 In Bidistricts VS the current 20-4a Lost to Central in 05-06 and Beat Lumberton Last year...

Dayton just wins playoff games...


[/quote]Yeah yall over there in 20-4A keep saying 19-4A is the weaker district.Like I asked in another thread who went to the finals last year and who went to the semi finals the year before? was it A.20-4A or was it B.19-4A ???      ANSWER: 19-4A :o
[/quote]

Dayton ::) This has been the last couple of years, you start talking about past, and 19-4A is nothing. You can only [b]hang your hat on two good years at Dayton WOW ::) [/b] Your the one bringing up the past and I'll put our district teams history versus 19-4A any day. Get ready for the beat down your going to get ;D
[/quote]

I'll bite....  :)

much more than 2 good years at dayton! 14 years in the playoffs.... and counting.

How about PNG's History against Dayton?
'98 - 45-24 - broncos
'06 - 33-2  - broncos
'07 - 40-7  - broncos


Can't see the historical forum for more..... but since we're just stirring the pot, I suppose that'll do.  ;D ;D

[hitman009]

I have seen all the teams play a couple of times..... 19 4A is better.... PNG and Central really dominated in that district. everyone else was descent at best.  In 19 4A all most all the playoff teams could hang with eachother. but still predict 2-2. If their is any upsets it would have to go to 19 4A. 

[TradinUp BH]

PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[BHFAN]

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="702377" timestamp="1257774895"]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]

ahhhhh PNG history I just can't seem to get enough of it ;D

[PURPLE 4EVER]

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="702377" timestamp="1257774895"]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]
Compare the last decade???
Dayton's last ten years crushes what has happened at PN-G (and I am a PN-G grad).
By the way...
I still think 20-4A is celebrating the day Dayton was moved out of that district.
After obliterating every single team in that district for two years (except for one hiccup against Lumberton) (no other team has come close to the points allowed vs points scored) the people in the Triangle where shouting, FINALLY!  One of our own teams can win district again.

[westend1]

[quote name="PURPLE 4EVER" post="702423" timestamp="1257779299"]
[quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=62041.msg702377#msg702377 date=1257774895]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]
Compare the last decade???
Dayton's last ten years crushes what has happened at PN-G (and I am a PN-G grad).
By the way...
I still think 20-4A is celebrating the day Dayton was moved out of that district.
After obliterating every single team in that district for two years (except for one hiccup against Lumberton) (no other team has come close to the points allowed vs points scored) the people in the Triangle where shouting, FINALLY!  One of our own teams can win district again.
[/quote]

Dayton can't even win their own district.  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).  If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2. 

[dayton]

[quote name="westend1" post="702424" timestamp="1257779787"]

[b][b]Dayton can't even win their own district. [/b] [/b]  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).   If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2.  
[/quote]

WB can't even out rank a div. II 4A school in their beloved golden triangle.  :)


anything can happen, but I think it'll be a split as well.

[westend1]

[quote name="dayton" post="702428" timestamp="1257780003"]
[quote author=westend1 link=topic=62041.msg702424#msg702424 date=1257779787]

[b][b]Dayton can't even win their own district. [/b] [/b]  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).   If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2.   
[/quote]

WB can't even out rank a div. II 4A school in their beloved golden triangle.  :)
[/quote]

Wow!  You really got me there.    Nice comeback for a second place team.              :D  ::)

[BMTSoulja1]

::) ::)  What about that  'hiccup' at Babe in '06? Wouldnt call that 'dominating', if memory serves me correctly...

[dayton]

[quote name="westend1" post="702431" timestamp="1257780124"]
[quote author=dayton link=topic=62041.msg702428#msg702428 date=1257780003]
[quote author=westend1 link=topic=62041.msg702424#msg702424 date=1257779787]

[b][b]Dayton can't even win their own district. [/b] [/b]  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).   If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2.   
[/quote]

WB can't even out rank a div. II 4A school in their beloved golden triangle.  :)
[/quote]

Wow!   You really got me there.     Nice comeback for a second place team.              :D  ::)
[/quote]

Congrats on your district championship and win over NS. We definitely know how those DC's feel over here in dayton.