19 4A VS 20 4A Who will come out on top???

[westend1]

[quote name="dayton" post="702434" timestamp="1257780239"]
[quote author=westend1 link=topic=62041.msg702431#msg702431 date=1257780124]
[quote author=dayton link=topic=62041.msg702428#msg702428 date=1257780003]
[quote author=westend1 link=topic=62041.msg702424#msg702424 date=1257779787]

[b][b]Dayton can't even win their own district. [/b] [/b]  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).   If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2.   
[/quote]

WB can't even out rank a div. II 4A school in their beloved golden triangle.  :)
[/quote]

Wow!   You really got me there.     Nice comeback for a second place team.              :D  ::)
[/quote]

Congrats on your district championship and win over NS. We definitely know how those DC's feel over here in dayton.

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Thanks!  I'm sure Dayton will get another one soon.

[dayton]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="702433" timestamp="1257780224"]
::) ::)  What about that  'hiccup' at Babe in '06? Wouldnt call that 'dominating', if memory serves me correctly...
[/quote]

that was a great one. Jags really cranked it up in the 4th quarter and capitalized on some bronco TO's. Jags and Broncos is a tough matchup.

[BMTSoulja1]

In '07, you did shut us out 20-0.  Fact of the matter was that we had a down year.  You know, missing the playoffs, lossing to Ozen...

[dayton]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="702440" timestamp="1257780549"]
In '07, you did shut us out 20-0.  Fact of the matter was that we had a down year.  You know, missing the playoffs, lossing to Ozen...
[/quote]

You guys were a mess that year... but honestly still played us tough. We just match up well I think.

[PURPLE 4EVER]

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[quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=62041.msg702423#msg702423 date=1257779299]
[quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=62041.msg702377#msg702377 date=1257774895]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]
Compare the last decade???
Dayton's last ten years crushes what has happened at PN-G (and I am a PN-G grad).
By the way...
I still think 20-4A is celebrating the day Dayton was moved out of that district.
After obliterating every single team in that district for two years (except for one hiccup against Lumberton) (no other team has come close to the points allowed vs points scored) the people in the Triangle where shouting, FINALLY!  One of our own teams can win district again.
[/quote]

Dayton can't even win their own district.  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).   If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2.   
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I will match up Dayton's last ten years against any body in the Triangle...

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="dayton" post="702447" timestamp="1257780740"]
[quote author=BMTSoulja1 link=topic=62041.msg702440#msg702440 date=1257780549]
In '07, you did shut us out 20-0.  Fact of the matter was that we had a down year.  You know, missing the playoffs, lossing to Ozen...
[/quote]

[b]You guys were a mess that year[/b]... but honestly still played us tough. We just match up well I think.
[/quote]Amen to that, Brother!  Let's try, 'hot' mess!  ;D ;D

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="PURPLE 4EVER" post="702450" timestamp="1257780816"]
[quote author=westend1 link=topic=62041.msg702424#msg702424 date=1257779787]
[quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=62041.msg702423#msg702423 date=1257779299]
[quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=62041.msg702377#msg702377 date=1257774895]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]
Compare the last decade???
Dayton's last ten years crushes what has happened at PN-G (and I am a PN-G grad).
By the way...
I still think 20-4A is celebrating the day Dayton was moved out of that district.
After obliterating every single team in that district for two years (except for one hiccup against Lumberton) (no other team has come close to the points allowed vs points scored) the people in the Triangle where shouting, FINALLY!  One of our own teams can win district again.
[/quote]

Dayton can't even win their own district.  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).   If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2.   
[/quote]
I will match up Dayton's last ten years against any body in the Triangle...

[/quote]I like that!  You talk a good game since Dayton have had 2 really great years with the state final appearance.  But I seem to remember Dayton getting smacked around by 20-4a at one point.  I remember Ozen smacking them around in the playoffs one year this decade...

[JS]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="702433" timestamp="1257780224"]
::) ::)  What about that  'hiccup' at Babe in '06? Wouldnt call that 'dominating', if memory serves me correctly...
[/quote]My personal favorite it was a hard fought game with #14 blocking a PAT---district championship on the line.

[D3zii]

Lol..Men is always something about us and field goals.

[BMTSoulja1]

[quote name="D3zii" post="702459" timestamp="1257781349"]
Lol..Men is always something about us and field goals.
[/quote]Yep, I was thinking that.  Game on the line at the end of the 4th....  district championship on the line...  We come up short.  1 point in '06 and 3 this year...

[dayton]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="702461" timestamp="1257781489"]
[quote author=D3zii link=topic=62041.msg702459#msg702459 date=1257781349]
Lol..Men is [b]always something about us and field goals.[/b][/quote]Yep, I was thinking that.  Game on the line at the end of the 4th....  district championship on the line...  We come up short.  1 point in '06 and 3 this year...
[/quote]

I couldn't believe what I was reading during the PNG/Central game friday!!!!

[dayton]

[quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="702455" timestamp="1257781057"]
[quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=62041.msg702450#msg702450 date=1257780816]
[quote author=westend1 link=topic=62041.msg702424#msg702424 date=1257779787]
[quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=62041.msg702423#msg702423 date=1257779299]
[quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=62041.msg702377#msg702377 date=1257774895]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]
Compare the last decade???
Dayton's last ten years crushes what has happened at PN-G (and I am a PN-G grad).
By the way...
I still think 20-4A is celebrating the day Dayton was moved out of that district.
After obliterating every single team in that district for two years (except for one hiccup against Lumberton) (no other team has come close to the points allowed vs points scored) the people in the Triangle where shouting, FINALLY!  One of our own teams can win district again.
[/quote]

Dayton can't even win their own district.  They lost to a team that PNG put a beat down on.(and lost bad).   If this thing is not 2-2, it will be in 20 4A's favor.  No way 19-4A takes more than 2.   
[/quote]
I will match up Dayton's last ten years against any body in the Triangle...

[/quote]I like that!  You talk a good game since Dayton have had 2 really great years with the state final appearance.  But I seem to remember Dayton getting smacked around by 20-4a at one point.  I remember Ozen [b]smacking them around [/b] in the playoffs one year this decade...
[/quote]

that was '05.... I believe the score was 13-12... not exactly a smacking around.  ;)

that was a pretty physical game. That's what I like about 20-4A is the physical style is a good prep for the playoffs.

[JS]

If I remember correctly 14-13 with Dayton missing a PAT?????

[dayton]

last ten years .... what I can remember.... somebody correct me if I'm wrong and fill in the blanks

'99 -
'00 -
'01 -
'02 - regional semis (bay city?)
'03 - regional finals  (Oak ridge?)
'04 - lost to Ned in the first round
'05 - Lost to ozen in the first round
'06 - rd. 2 loss to Texas City
'07 - State semis loss to LT
'08 - State finals loss to SS

[BMTSoulja1]

I stand corected....  It wasn't a 'smacking around'.  ;D ;D

[Guest octfeb]

[quote name="Scalp'em" post="702377" timestamp="1257774895"]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]ummm so how many of those are 4A standings?and back in the 30's 40's and 50's how many schools were there 2?

[westend1]

[quote name="octfeb" post="702495" timestamp="1257784433"]
[quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=62041.msg702377#msg702377 date=1257774895]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]ummm so how many of those are 4A standings?and back in the 30's 40's and 50's how many schools were there 2?
[/quote]

Must  have been a few good schools around.  Dayton only made the playoffs like eight times from world war II to 1990.      ;) :D ;D

[adminbaberuth]

I look for 20-4A to rest some guys and get everyone healthy for the following week.

[dayton]

[quote name="adminbaberuth" post="702548" timestamp="1257788594"]
I look for 20-4A to rest some guys and get everyone healthy for the following week.
[/quote]

:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

[TradinUp BH]

It's funny how it's Dayton this Dayton that! I told you it's a one team district and thats Dayton. You look at 20-4A and historically you have Central, Nederland, PNG, and recently Lumberton, and this year Vidor. 19-4A is a glorified 1A football district ;D ;D ;D

[hitman009]

Here is the way I see it:
[b]Dayton[/b] vs Vidor - Dayton is firing on all cylinders right now. they will move the ball and play some good D. vidor is one dimensional. OK D but I don't think they can stop those Broncos right now.
[b]Crosby[/b] vs Nederland - Crosby moves the ball on off, does not turn the ball over much and has a D that will knock the crap out of you. When the game is on the line they will make plays. Nederland has a inexperienced QB, an RB, a line that needs some work and a D that is decent at best.
[b]PNG[/b] vs Barbers Hill - PNG is on a roll but may have some hangovers from the big game last week and may walk into the game thinking they beat them once, they can do it again. NOT GOOD! Different Barbers Hill team. They still are tough on D and O.   Barbers Hill can move the ball on offense but their D needs some work.  Could be a close one if PNG does not jump on them.
[b]Central [/b] vs GCM - Cental could so two things: be quit and let GCM hang with them or be pissed for blowing last weeks game and come out and destroy them. Their D has to stop the big play. GCM has to believe and hang with them. Create the big play, and move the ball. Could be a close one or major blow out.

For all you people releying on the non district scores from the beginning of the season, remember these are total different teams now.  Right now everyone is undefeated and the loser rolls out the basketballs!!!!

[PURPLE 4EVER]

[quote name="hitman009" post="702560" timestamp="1257789958"]
Here is the way I see it:
[b]Dayton[/b] vs Vidor - Dayton is firing on all cylinders right now. they will move the ball and play some good D. vidor is one dimensional. OK D but I don't think they can stop those Broncos right now.
[b]Crosby[/b] vs Nederland - Crosby moves the ball on off, does not turn the ball over much and has a D that will knock the crap out of you. When the game is on the line they will make plays. Nederland has a inexperienced QB, an RB, a line that needs some work and a D that is decent at best.
[b]PNG[/b] vs Barbers Hill - PNG is on a roll but may have some hangovers from the big game last week and may walk into the game thinking they beat them once, they can do it again. NOT GOOD! Different Barbers Hill team. They still are tough on D and O.   Barbers Hill can move the ball on offense but their D needs some work.  Could be a close one if PNG does not jump on them.
[b]Central [/b] vs GCM - Cental could so two things: be quit and let GCM hang with them or be pissed for blowing last weeks game and come out and destroy them. Their D has to stop the big play. GCM has to believe and hang with them. Create the big play, and move the ball. Could be a close one or major blow out.

For all you people releying on the non district scores from the beginning of the season, remember these are total different teams now.  Right now everyone is undefeated and the loser rolls out the basketballs!!!!
[/quote]
Good summary...
The #1 and #2 seeds from each district should be favored to win (but you never know until the game is played).
Weather this weekend should be AWEsome!

[BigWolf10]

[quote name="hitman009" post="702560" timestamp="1257789958"]
Here is the way I see it:
[b]Dayton[/b] vs Vidor - Dayton is firing on all cylinders right now. they will move the ball and play some good D. vidor is one dimensional. OK D but I don't think they can stop those Broncos right now.
[b]Crosby[/b] vs Nederland - Crosby moves the ball on off, does not turn the ball over much and has a D that will knock the crap out of you. When the game is on the line they will make plays. Nederland has a inexperienced QB, an RB, a line that needs some work and a D that is decent at best.
[b]PNG[/b] vs Barbers Hill - PNG is on a roll but may have some hangovers from the big game last week and may walk into the game thinking they beat them once, they can do it again. NOT GOOD! Different Barbers Hill team. They still are tough on D and O.   Barbers Hill can move the ball on offense but their D needs some work.  Could be a close one if PNG does not jump on them.
[b]Central [/b] vs GCM - Central could so two things: be quit and let GCM hang with them or be pissed for blowing last weeks game and come out and destroy them. Their D has to stop the big play. GCM has to believe and hang with them. Create the big play, and move the ball. Could be a close one or major blow out.

For all you people releying on the non district scores from the beginning of the season, remember these are total different teams now.  Right now everyone is undefeated and the loser rolls out the basketballs!!!!
[/quote]Your accessmen ts are realistic. I think my Jags and the NDN's will be Pumped and set the tone of both games quickly. In the game Friday, my Jags didn't display that passing attack I started getting accustom to. I think we pull out some more wrinkles and get Memorial outta the way.
  The NDN's are FIRE. They are a precision, quick passing, lure you to think you know, then hit you with Harmon on a draw, for big yards or to the house. I'd not want them in the Playoffs.
They are ready and we are ready. Now, the question is are our opponents ready?

[Guest octfeb]

[quote name="westend1" post="702517" timestamp="1257785968"]
[quote author=octfeb link=topic=62041.msg702495#msg702495 date=1257784433]
[quote author=Scalp'em link=topic=62041.msg702377#msg702377 date=1257774895]
PNG

State Champions - 1953 (3A), 1955 (3A), 1975 (4A, #3 National Ranking)

State Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1975, 1977, 1999

Semi Finals - 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1999

Quarter Finals - 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1999

Regional Finals - 1934, 1946, 1947, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1996, 1999, 2007

Area Finals - 1989, 1999, 2003, 2004

Bi-District - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007

District Champions - 1933, 1934, 1938, 1941, 1946, 1947, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1961, 1968, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2009

[/quote]ummm so how many of those are 4A standings?and back in the 30's 40's and 50's how many schools were there 2?
[/quote]

Must  have been a few good schools around.  Dayton only made the playoffs like eight times from world war II to 1990.       ;) :D ;D
[/quote]aww that may or may not be true.So I would say isnt it great that we arent playing in the past? 8) Dayton may have sucked way back then,but I hardly think that they suck now.14 straight years into the playoffs and counting                                               
GO BRONCOS
ALWAYS BELIEVE
     

[westend1]

That's what i've been trying to tell you.  Those last 14 years mean nothing.  Why do you Dayton fans keep bringing up the past?  You guys are 2 seeds THIS year.            ??? :P ;)