True Blue Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Lazeek You need to read the definition of professional. It is some that gets payed for a job. It does not state the amount. So if you take the money get ready for all that comes with it, good and bad. Whsalum maybe if more refs concerned themself professionals they would make more effort to do a good job. Like I have said , most ARE doing a good job but for the ones that are not someone should watch these games and point out what they have done right and wrong, they maybe they can get it right the next time. Never have I said that they were making bad calls on purpose. It is just maybe that they don't know the exact rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I would not consider our local officials "professional referees" because this is not their sole source of income. This a part time thing.Now I do consider them to do a 'professional" job in which I believe for the most part, it is done. Refs have bad games, but the bottom line is they are out there doing their best and nobody can make every call correct, it's just humanly impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 If you get payed for a job you are a Professional. Part time or not. And for the most part they do, do a good job. But this weekend I watch a few make ruling call that were wrong, not judgement. I just wonted to know if anyone told them that they made the wrong call. I know that on a judgement call that everone will not see it the same. But on a rule there is just one call to make. Not meaning to put anyone down just wont to see them get it right when dist. play starts. These early games should be used for the refs to get ready for dist. play just like for the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopInsider_Cooper Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 [font=Courier]Hey guys....keep thread on Orangefield topic please![/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazeek Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I am confused.......is the thread about mediocre refs or mediocre OF coaching??? ;D ;D ;DCoach Rey does a great job over there and if anyone is complaining it is likely because their kid is riding the pine for the Bobcats. If it is about the refs then just get over it........it is high school hoops and you play with the refs that are sent.........score more points and move on to the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Sorry I read it as Mediocrity of Refs, and OF. But I have said my peace and I will get off my soap box ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttownbball Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Mk first of all my team aka the Tarkington Longhorns are 4-0 and don't get any respect at all plus our team scrimmaged yall and beat yall so yeahhhhhh! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppaBearstarr Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 The losing team always thinks they got hosed on the calls....If thats why you think you lost than you will never get any better...You have to adjust to however the refs are calling...HJ does this very well, I didnt bring HJ into this thread you did...it is amazing how childish you sound when you say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRef Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 [quote name="Bucof2010" post="725219" timestamp="1260133909"]It seems like there are fewer refs around here than a few years ago and those that are left are doing a serious amount of games...anyone verify?[/quote]Well let me explain that to you in three little letters [b]UIL[/b].The local chapter plit up and part of the guys stayed with TASO and the other part went with the UIL! Depending on if your coach chose to use UIL officials or TASO officials depends on which half of the refs you are seeing.See in our 3a district everyone is supporting TASO except one school! That one school went with the UIL officials, sure the coach had his reason! But back to the subject Bucof2010 that is why you are seeing fewer refs, because some of them went to a new chapter that your coach does not use or they stayed with the old chapter that your coach does not use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 It is my understanding that the UIL chapter has more members than the TASO chapter and that the number of area schools are about evenly split on who is using what chapter. TASO may have a couple more schools than the UIL therefore the TASO chapter may be a little short handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUSHCOACH Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 [quote name="SteelerCzy" post="725032" timestamp="1260118229"][quote author=True Blue link=topic=63421.msg724965#msg724965 date=1260111392]Ref are human and they do make misstakes, but they also are grown men getting payed to do a job. With that being said if in the real world you do a bad job at something and make that many mistakes, and you are getting payed that will be a short job. I just hate to see bad calls that can change a game one way or the other. JMO the best ref. is the one that when the game is over you cant even remember who he was[/quote]Good post, the ref's are human, however, job performance should come into play. The last couple years the good ref's are few and far between.[/quote] And I'm sure the refs are few and far between because of the verbal abuse they have to take every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppaBearstarr Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Thats true, half of the fans are always mad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 What is this thread about? I'm lost. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDOVE3 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 [quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="725641" timestamp="1260200516"]The losing team always thinks they got hosed on the calls....If thats why you think you lost than you will never get any better...You have to adjust to however the refs are calling...HJ does this very well, I didnt bring HJ into this thread you did...it is amazing how childish you sound when you say it.[/quote]Good point! You have to adjust to ref's calls and use them to your advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aTmfan06 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 There were bad calls both ways in the orangefield/Kountze game..... Refs didnt give either team the advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no-look Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 [quote name="ttownbball" post="725540" timestamp="1260163589"]Mk first of all my team aka the Tarkington Longhorns are 4-0 and don't get any respect at all plus our team scrimmaged yall and beat yall so yeahhhhhh! ;)[/quote] 4-0?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bleed orange Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 [quote name="utfan06" post="725933" timestamp="1260225518"]There were bad calls both ways in the orangefield/Kountze game..... Refs didnt give either team the advantage.[/quote]This thread was not started because of HJ, Kountze or the refs. Why do people read more into a text than is actually there? The poster who started this is frustrated with Orangefield basketball plain and simple. I also think that Orangefield has gotten better and is a worthy opponent in basketball. Years ago we were a easy win. Not anymore which speaks volume about our little dribbler program but I do think the expectations are a little high. Nothing wrong with that. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopInsider_Cooper Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 [font=Courier]Enough about refs in this thread! Stick to Orangefield or it's locked.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyman Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM SOUNDS LIKE CENSORSHIP COOP NO ONE IS CALLING NAMES JUST BAD CALLS I WAS THERE AND COULD CALL NAMES BUTTHAT WOULD BE IMPROPER AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL READ THIS AND TAKE A LITTLE MORE PRIDE IN THEIR (HOBBY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopInsider_Cooper Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 [font=Courier]There is already a thread about refs....go there with ref stuff.[/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roper84 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Nederland 61, Orangefield 28 - WOW96' which was it on Mon night: Coaching or Refs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketSitR Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 LOL!!! My son was talking about all of the bad calls in a game this weekend that i had to miss.. His JV team had lost.. As i questioned him he brought up the fact that his team had missed about 20 layups and put backs under the boards..... He thought for a minute and said " but they still made bad calls!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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