Coach Schrapps Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 I have been reading a lot of posts on here about good officials and bad officials and HJ officialls...Just Kidding ;D. I agree with the idea that it is a difficult job and I would never in a million years want to do it. No matter what call you make someone is going to think your wrong. If you have the nerve to make a big call you will be verbally assaulted by fans, players and even coaches. Its a tough job no doubt about that.That being said though what is frustrating for a coach is when referees don't know the rules of basketball. For example, in one of our games this season I had an official who did not know that when a man was being defended he had to do the five second count...it got so bad that the other referee had to explain to him that he was supposed to do that. Another issue is when referees don't make the right call. This is another situation that I have had happen several times this season. A player has his hands straight up but clearly fouls a player with his hips...this is a blocking foul not a reaching foul, but some referees don't make the correct call. The most frustrating issue with refs is the inconsistency they have in regards to the issue of a player slapping the backboard and disturbing the ball. Some refs refuse to make this call and some know the rule and make the right call.There are some great officials in this area but at the same time especially in the lower levels there are some refs that need a rules refreshment.
True Blue Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 You are right on point. A judgement call that everone will see their own way But a rule call can only be made one way. I was just asking if anyone ever watch and told these guys when they make the wrong call on a rule violation?I watch a ref make a backcourt call when the player only put one foot in the frontcourt and turned to go the otherway. He called backcourt, The rule states that there must be 3 points in the front court in order to be backcourt.After the game the Ref said he did not know this new rule. That was just one call, I watch several others, I just hope they get it wright come Dist. play. I have never lost a game because of a Ref, but they can change the momentum of a game. Most games are lost and won by making and missing shots.
PoppaBearstarr Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 I know it is frustrating, and i dont think it is a new rule it has been as long as I can remember that you have two establish yourself in the frontcourt first both feet and the ball before you can be called for a back court...but after you have established yourself in the front court then nothing can go back accross...I might be wrong I'm not the professional but that is what I was taught a long time ago....Someone tell me if that is still correct.
PoppaBearstarr Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 [quote name="Kelly Basketball" post="725731" timestamp="1260208171"]I have been reading a lot of posts on here about good officials and bad officials and [b][size=14pt][color=blue]HJ officialls[/color][/size][/b]...Just Kidding ;D. I agree with the idea that it is a difficult job and I would never in a million years want to do it. No matter what call you make someone is going to think your wrong. If you have the nerve to make a big call you will be verbally assaulted by fans, players and even coaches. Its a tough job no doubt about that.That being said though what is frustrating for a coach is when referees don't know the rules of basketball. For example, in one of our games this season I had an official who did not know that when a man was being defended he had to do the five second count...it got so bad that the other referee had to explain to him that he was supposed to do that. Another issue is when referees don't make the right call. This is another situation that I have had happen several times this season. A player has his hands straight up but clearly fouls a player with his hips...this is a blocking foul not a reaching foul, but some referees don't make the correct call. The most frustrating issue with refs is the inconsistency they have in regards to the issue of a player slapping the backboard and disturbing the ball. Some refs refuse to make this call and some know the rule and make the right call.There are some great officials in this area but at the same time especially in the lower levels there are some refs that need a rules refreshment. [/quote]I can't believe you said that.....I know you were just kidding, but I hear the samething from the same town or towns every year. There is no way it can be the kids playing fault so it has to be the referee's....LMAO....that is funny. I think that the referee's do a great job and anyone who doesn't agree should lace them up get a whistle and give it a shot yourself. You would be run out of the gym in your home town....
True Blue Posted December 7, 2009 Report Posted December 7, 2009 [quote name="PoppaBearstarr" post="725827" timestamp="1260217679"]I know it is frustrating, and i don't think it is a new rule it has been as long as I can remember that you have two establish yourself in the frontcourt first both feet and the ball before you can be called for a back court...but after you have established yourself in the front court then nothing can go back across...I might be wrong I'm not the professional but that is what I was taught a long time ago....Someone tell me if that is still correct.[/quote] You are right , you have to have 3 point in the frontcourt before you can be called for backcourt. You can cross the middle stripe with you feet but if the ball never comes in the frontcourt you can go back across. The Ref that called the game that I watch did not know this. I saw him after he missted that call, ask the other Ref if he had made the right call. The guy just laughed and walked off. I Watch the same Ref in another game call travel on a kid for catching his shot after getting it blocked. He called it up and down. The other guy try ed to tell him he misted the call but he had already gave the ball to the other team and the play had started. I am not trying to call this Ref out just wont him the make the right calls when Dist. games start.
PoppaBearstarr Posted December 8, 2009 Report Posted December 8, 2009 They will usually talk about it at half or after the game and the senior official tell them what the correct call but they will not and I dont think they should ever correct each other out on the court, unless it is truley a big call in a big game with lots of implications. Sorry but that is just my own opinion...
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