SETX Top 5 Football Programs..LAST 10 years. On the Rise or Fall

[D3zii]

1.[b]W.O.S[/b] (Probly one of the Best Program in the state) [b]To early to tell[/b]
2.[b]Dayton[/b] (A close 2nd to W.O.S) [b]Rise[/b]
3.[b]Nederland[/b] (Nederland has dominated the area the last 10 yrs) [b]Rise[/b]
4.[b]Central[/b] (Underrated program) [b]Rise[/b]
5.[b]WestBrook[/b] (They started getting back to dominance 5 yrs ago) [b]Rise[/b]

[BoboandBlair]

Newton should be included on any list, most likely #1.

If you are going back 10 years you can drop West Brook and add Kirbyville too.

[badndn]

WOS #1??
Have you been paying attention?

#1 Dayton - Model of consistency including State title game last year. [b]Neutral[/b]
#2 Newton - Allways a threat in November. [b]Neutral[/b]
#3 Kirbyville - With the bulk of that in the past four years (Two state title appearences does that for ya) [b]Rise[/b]
#4 Jasper - How quickly you folks forget the great State title game against Gilmer a few years back. [b]Rise[/b]
#5 WOS - And dropping. [b]Fall[/b]
#6 Nederland - Great area team, just haven't made it all the way.[b]Neutral[/b]
#7 West Brook - Moving up with the past five years. Previous five not so much! [b]Rise[/b]
#8 East Chambers - The Thomas era was pretty good.[b]Fall[/b]
#9 PNG - Up and down the past 10, but there were a few DC's and two and three round seasons and the future looks good. [b]Rise[/b]
#10 Silsbee - Up and down. [b]Rise[/b]

[KFDM COOP]

WOS will be back in 2010

[BoboandBlair]

[quote name="KFDM COOP" post="745132" timestamp="1263703472"]
WOS will be back in 2010
[/quote]

We keep hearing this on a yearly basis.  They were suppose to be the real deal last year, but weren't.  IMO WOS days of a state title participant are well over, esp. with the 3A numbers steadily going up, and once-mighty 4A's dropping down.

WOS will be a perrennial 3rd/4th round participant before bowing out to a team they should beat.

[WeedBegone]

A team loaded with talent in the last 7-years that refuses for various reasons to get on the rise is PAM.  Time could run out for them if they dont get it together as a Team, Fans, and coaches.  They have great new facilities and if they use them they may get there.

Badndn, you acknowledged Nederland, but I believe Central is more on the rise and will present big problems for you guys.

[TexazBall]

Dayton has good History bandan, But Newton is the king right now ,And Your right about W.O.S..I dont htink thier number 1.

1.Newton *Even had 4a and 5a teams scared to play them* [b]Rise[/b]
2.Dayton *Consitant every year* [b]Rise[/b]
3.Jasper  *One of the best teams in SETX the last 10 yrs* [b]Risel[/b]
4.W.O.S  *Hopefully they get that good set of ATH WOS is known for* [b]IDK[/b]
5.Nederland *Best Programs in the Area* [b]Netural[/b]
6.Central    *Agree with D3zii..Very Underrated* [b]Rise[/b]
7.West Brook *Best Team in the Area Last 5 yrs* [b]Rise[/b]
8.Kirbyville   *2 state Title Apperacnes, but this is the last 10 yrs* [b]Rise[/b]

[BoboandBlair]

1. Newton                            Nuetral
2. Dayton                            Rise
3. WOS                                Fall
4. Kirbyville                          Rise
5. Nederland                        Fall
6. Jasper                              Rise
7. Central                            Nuetral
8. West Brook                      Rise
9. East Chambers                  Nuetral
10 Silsbee                            Fall

[rapayne]

1. Dayton                            Here to stay
2. Kirbyville                          Rise
3. Newton                            Staying Put
4. WOS                                Fall
5. Jasper                              Rise
6.  Central                            Rise
7. Cleveland                        Rise
8. West Brook                      Rise
9. Nederland                        Fall
10 Silsbee                            Fall

[D3zii]

Sorry i forgot all abut Newton.n Kirbyville Revised Top 10

1.Newton [b]Rise[/b]
2.W.O.S  [b]To early to say[/b]
3.Dayton  [b]Rise[/b]
4.Kirbyville  [b]Rise[/b]
5.Jasper  [b]Rise[/b]
6.Nederland  [b]Fall[/b]
7.Central    [b]Rise[/b]
8.WestBrook  [b]Rise[/b]
9.East Chambers  [b]Rise[/b]
10.Silsbee      [b]Fall[/b]

[badndn]

I did some research and over the past ten years I figured win% (total % .80 being .8 pts), Playoff wins (1 pt per), State Title Apearences (3 pts per), State Championships (5 pts per). Results below speak for themselves.

            Points
1 Newton 36.80
2 Dayton 21.73
3 KVille 21.68
4 Jasper 19.63
5 WOS 15.82
6 Ned 12.65
7 Central 9.59
8 BC 8.61
9 WBrook 8.50
10 BHill 5.74
11 EC 4.71
12 PNG 4.61
13 Sils 3.48
14 PAM 2.51
15 Lum 2.48

[dayton]

nicely done!

[Bucof2010]

Very nice ndn

I think some of you are using only the past year or two

1. WOS in the past ten years no one has consistently beat them one person said they'll always go three or four rounds deep and lose I'd say that's pretty good
THE MIDGET RB WILL SURPRISE NEUTRAL


2. Newton just as successful as WOS but smaller classification is deciding factor and head to head I'm guessing goes to WOS NEVER CHANGE

3. Dayton pretty much owns two 4a districts not as consist
ent playoff success as the two prior. NEUTRAL

4. Central guess they're the perrenial sleeper cause they get little respect on here
UP

5.  Silsbee only team that interests us when they play WOS in district UP

[mat]

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="745570" timestamp="1263789632"]
Very nice ndn

I think some of you are using only the past year or two

1. WOS in the past ten years no one has consistently beat them one person said they'll always go three or four rounds deep and lose I'd say that's pretty good
THE MIDGET RB WILL SURPRISE NEUTRAL


2. Newton just as successful as WOS but smaller classification is deciding factor and head to head I'm guessing goes to WOS NEVER CHANGE

3. Dayton pretty much owns two 4a districts not as consist
ent playoff success as the two prior. NEUTRAL

4. Central guess they're the perrenial sleeper cause they get little respect on here
UP

5.  Silsbee only team that interests us when they play WOS in district UP
[/quote]

Seams pretty acurate

[badndn]

[quote name="Bucof2010" post="745570" timestamp="1263789632"]
Very nice ndn
[b]I think some of you are using only the past year or two[/b][/quote]
Thanks, Remember the bold quote!
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
1. WOS in the past ten years no one has consistently beat them one person said they'll always go three or four rounds deep and lose I'd say that's pretty good THE MIDGET RB WILL SURPRISE NEUTRAL[/quote]
WOS got 8 points from the 2000 state title run 10 years ago. That's gone next year. Without it WOS would have had 7 points and finished 10th on this list. Interesting!!!! Also WOS had the highest Win %, but just didn't get it done in the playoffs over the past 9 years (except 2005). I think this says more about the 3A district then it does WOS.
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
2. Newton just as successful as WOS but smaller classification is deciding factor and head to head I'm guessing goes to WOS NEVER CHANGE[/quote]
Newton has two state title runs and is the only team in the area with an actuall State Championship. Head to Head vs WOS might not go to WOS (ask Kirbyville  ;)). Newton is head and shoulders above the pack right now over the past 10 years.
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
3. Dayton pretty much owns two 4a districts not as consistent playoff success as the two prior. NEUTRAL[/quote]
Picked up a lot of points the past three years and looks to get stronger!
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
4. Central guess they're the perrenial sleeper cause they get little respect on here UP[/quote]
Central was aided big time by the playoff runs from the past few years. But they only have 1 ten win seasons in the past ten years. Moving up lately.
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
5.  Silsbee only team that interests us when they play WOS in district UP[/quote]
(4-6) (5-6) (1-9) (0-10) (9-1) (4-5) (9-3) (4-6) (6-5) (7-5) records over 10 years. That and only 3 playoff wins. Two of those in one year And only one with JJ. Remember the quote at the top!

[Bucof2010]

Wow I thought silsbee would've had better seasons than that hard to argue fact lol

Im not sure Dayton wont fall off a little this coming year they've had amazing talent graduate the past two years and it can't stay that high forever

[PURPLE 4EVER]

Just ask Nederland how good Dayton's freshmen class is...
There will be a lot of young line men step up next year at Dayton, but the skills positions on offense (with exception of Peyton) is basically all returning.
Lots of sophomores played a lot last year.

[dayton]

[quote name="PURPLE 4EVER" post="746070" timestamp="1263905658"]
Just ask Nederland how good Dayton's freshmen class is...
There will be a lot of young line men step up next year at Dayton, but the skills positions on offense (with exception of Peyton) is basically all returning.
Lots of sophomores played a lot last year.
[/quote]

I agree the talent is as good or better to me..... Experience will be the issue, if anything.

[Guest BKJ85]

[quote name="badndn" post="745657" timestamp="1263836704"]
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
Very nice ndn
[b]I think some of you are using only the past year or two[/b][/quote]
Thanks, Remember the bold quote!
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
1. WOS in the past ten years no one has consistently beat them one person said they'll always go three or four rounds deep and lose I'd say that's pretty good THE MIDGET RB WILL SURPRISE NEUTRAL[/quote]
WOS got 8 points from the 2000 state title run 10 years ago. That's gone next year. Without it WOS would have had 7 points and finished 10th on this list. Interesting!!!! Also WOS had the highest Win %, but just didn't get it done in the playoffs over the past 9 years (except 2005). I think this says more about the 3A district then it does WOS.
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
2. Newton just as successful as WOS but smaller classification is deciding factor and head to head I'm guessing goes to WOS NEVER CHANGE[/quote]
Newton has two state title runs and is the only team in the area with an actuall State Championship. Head to Head vs WOS might not go to WOS (ask Kirbyville  ;)). Newton is head and shoulders above the pack right now over the past 10 years.
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
3. Dayton pretty much owns two 4a districts not as consistent playoff success as the two prior. NEUTRAL[/quote]
Picked up a lot of points the past three years and looks to get stronger!
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
4. Central guess they're the perrenial sleeper cause they get little respect on here UP[/quote]
Central was aided big time by the playoff runs from the past few years. But they only have 1 ten win seasons in the past ten years. Moving up lately.
[quote author=Bucof2010 link=topic=64850.msg745570#msg745570 date=1263789632]
5.  Silsbee only team that interests us when they play WOS in district UP[/quote]
(4-6) (5-6) (1-9) (0-10) (9-1) (4-5) (9-3) (4-6) (6-5) (7-5) records over 10 years. That and only 3 playoff wins. Two of those in one year And only one with JJ. Remember the quote at the top!
[/quote]JJ won two of the three. His Jr and Sr year Navasota knocked us out of the playoffs in the second round. 

[AggiesAreWe]

JJ went 2-2 in the playoffs while quarterbacking the Silsbee team.

[bowhunter45]

This is cool stuff.... Does anyone have Kvilles resume for the last 10 years? And it would realy be interesting to see what Alverez has done sence he took over.

[PURPLE 4EVER]

[quote name="badndn" post="745497" timestamp="1263772559"]
I did some research and over the past ten years I figured win% (total % .80 being .8 pts), Playoff wins (1 pt per), State Title Apearences (3 pts per), State Championships (5 pts per). Results below speak for themselves.

             Points
1 Newton 36.80
2 Dayton 21.73
3 KVille 21.68
4 Jasper 19.63
5 WOS 15.82
6 Ned 12.65
7 Central 9.59
8 BC 8.61
9 WBrook 8.50
10 BHill 5.74
11 EC 4.71
12 PNG 4.61
13 Sils 3.48
14 PAM 2.51
15 Lum 2.48

[/quote]
This makes a lot of sense.
Great job.

[BrenhamFan]

[quote name="badndn" post="745497" timestamp="1263772559"]
I did some research and over the past ten years I figured win% (total % .80 being .8 pts), Playoff wins (1 pt per), State Title Apearences (3 pts per), State Championships (5 pts per). Results below speak for themselves.

             Points
1 Newton 36.80
2 Dayton 21.73
3 KVille 21.68
4 Jasper 19.63
5 WOS 15.82
6 Ned 12.65
7 Central 9.59
8 BC 8.61
9 WBrook 8.50
10 BHill 5.74
11 EC 4.71
12 PNG 4.61
13 Sils 3.48
14 PAM 2.51
15 Lum 2.48

[/quote]

Great idea, with the point system.  I know Brenham isn't setx, but where exactly would we fall in your point system?  (I wanna make sure I don't miss anything)

[badndn]

[quote name="WildcatGRAD81" post="746354" timestamp="1263938246"]
This is cool stuff.... Does anyone have Kvilles resume for the last 10 years? And it would realy be interesting to see what Alverez has done sence he took over.
[/quote]
KVille
(3-7) (4-6) (7-4) (6-4) (10-3) (8-4) (8-4) (11-2) (13-1) (12-3)

[badndn]

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="746385" timestamp="1263941989"]
[quote author=badndn link=topic=64850.msg745497#msg745497 date=1263772559]
I did some research and over the past ten years I figured win% (total % .80 being .8 pts), Playoff wins (1 pt per), State Title Apearences (3 pts per), State Championships (5 pts per). Results below speak for themselves.

             Points
1 Newton 36.80
2 Dayton 21.73
3 KVille 21.68
4 Jasper 19.63
5 WOS 15.82
6 Ned 12.65
7 Central 9.59
8 BC 8.61
9 WBrook 8.50
10 BHill 5.74
11 EC 4.71
12 PNG 4.61
13 Sils 3.48
14 PAM 2.51
15 Lum 2.48

[/quote]

Great idea, with the point system.  I know Brenham isn't setx, but where exactly would we fall in your point system?  (I wanna make sure I don't miss anything)
[/quote]
Brenham would have been second on this list with 27.77 points.
(6-5) (11-2) (14-2) (5-5) (9-2) (14-1) (11-2) (8-3) (8-5) (13-3) 21 playoff wins and 2 title appearances.
Just behind Newton who had 25 playoff wins, 2 title appearances and one State Championship.