SETX Top 5 Football Programs..LAST 10 years. On the Rise or Fall

[badndn]

Team of the decade!!!

Katy Tigers 83.88 Points
88% winning percent, 45 playoff wins, 6 title appearances and 4 State Championships.

Close second
Celina 78.90 points
90% winning percent, 40 playoff wins, 6 title appearances and 4 State Championships. (interesting side note is that Celina won state titles in 1999 & 98 as well)

And in third
Southlake Carroll 76.88 Points
88% winning percent, 41 playoff wins, 5 title appearances and 4 State Championships.

And for good measure Lake Travis after starting out the decade (6-6) (1-9) (0-10) (3-7) finished strong going (15-1) (16-0) (15-0) with 19 playoff wins and 3 State titles in 3 appearances for a total of 43.67 points.

[BrenhamFan]

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I did some research and over the past ten years I figured win% (total % .80 being .8 pts), Playoff wins (1 pt per), State Title Apearences (3 pts per), State Championships (5 pts per). Results below speak for themselves.

             Points
1 Newton 36.80
2 Dayton 21.73
3 KVille 21.68
4 Jasper 19.63
5 WOS 15.82
6 Ned 12.65
7 Central 9.59
8 BC 8.61
9 WBrook 8.50
10 BHill 5.74
11 EC 4.71
12 PNG 4.61
13 Sils 3.48
14 PAM 2.51
15 Lum 2.48

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Great idea, with the point system.  I know Brenham isn't setx, but where exactly would we fall in your point system?  (I wanna make sure I don't miss anything)
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Brenham would have been second on this list with 27.77 points.
(6-5) (11-2) (14-2) (5-5) (9-2) (14-1) (11-2) (8-3) (8-5) (13-3) 21 playoff wins and 2 title appearances.
Just behind Newton who had 25 playoff wins, 2 title appearances and one State Championship.
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Thanks.  PNG starts in the alamodome next year, right?

[D3zii]

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WOS #1??
Have you been paying attention?

#1 Dayton - Model of consistency including State title game last year. [b]Neutral[/b]
#2 Newton - Allways a threat in November. [b]Neutral[/b]
#3 Kirbyville - With the bulk of that in the past four years (Two state title appearences does that for ya) [b]Rise[/b]
#4 Jasper - How quickly you folks forget the great State title game against Gilmer a few years back. [b]Rise[/b]
#5 WOS - And dropping. [b]Fall[/b]
#6 Nederland - Great area team, just haven't made it all the way.[b]Neutral[/b]
#7 West Brook - Moving up with the past five years. Previous five not so much! [b]Rise[/b]
#8 East Chambers - The Thomas era was pretty good.[b]Fall[/b]
#9 PNG - Up and down the past 10, but there were a few DC's and two and three round seasons and the future looks good. [b]Rise[/b]
#10 Silsbee - Up and down. [b]Rise[/b]


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Wow..No Central..I Know im a Jag fan and this is an opinion Site..But I know Central has had a better Last ten years then the bottom 7 of thoes teams..

[T-daddy]

good work and thanks for your time badndn...

[badndn]

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good work and thanks for your time badndn...
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No problem.
It was actually kinda cool going through and placing real meaningful values on wins and playoff appearances. We all talk alot about our favorite programs, but most of us look at what have you done for me lately and tend to forget about the recent history. As a PNG fan I thought before I did the stats that PNG was a top program in the GT over the past decade, but most of that was based on last year and that feeling we all have about the future. The numbers don't lie...They tell me I was wrong! Kinda gives some perspective into the Burnett era since D. Long left (1999 which was one year before the decade!).

As an overall program I think the ammenaties, current staff and results from the Varsity and JV last year (21-1) at PNG make it a potential top program, but time will tell.

[Guest airitout123]

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good work and thanks for your time badndn...
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No problem.
It was actually kinda cool going through and placing real meaningful values on wins and playoff appearances. We all talk alot about our favorite programs, but most of us look at what have you done for me lately and tend to forget about the recent history. As a PNG fan I thought before I did the stats that PNG was a top program in the GT over the past decade, but most of that was based on last year and that feeling we all have about the future. The numbers don't lie...They tell me I was wrong! Kinda gives some perspective into the Burnett era since D. Long left (1999 which was one year before the decade!).

As an overall program I think the ammenaties, current staff and results from the Varsity and JV last year (21-1) at PNG make it a potential top program, but time will tell.
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You did a great job on this.  I would like to see the winning percentage weighted more. 

[badndn]

I figured the real measure of success is playoff wins. Some teams that are in weaker districts would mop up each year on easy regular season points, but bow out in the first or second round each year and look like great programs, when in fact they are just good programs.

If two teams in a district both make the playoffs.
Team A goes 6-4 reg season, but goes five deep in the playoffs
Team B goes 10-0 reg season, But looses in the 1st round

Who had the better program? Say team A played a tuff non-district going 1-3 and went 5-1 in district and team B played a buch of pushovers predistrict. One thing you know for sure is a playoff win is a well earned point.

[DogOne]

"One thing you know for sure is a playoff win is a well earned point"

What if that 1st round playoff win comes against the 4th place team from one of the "weaker districts"?   

[Bucof2010]

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"One thing you know for sure is a playoff win is a well earned point"

What if that 1st round playoff win comes against the 4th place team from one of the "weaker districts"?     
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Whats your suggestion?

[badndn]

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"One thing you know for sure is a playoff win is a well earned point"

What if that 1st round playoff win comes against the 4th place team from one of the "weaker districts"?     
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Still worth more than a regular season win.

[DogOne]

I have no problem with badndn's formula.  In fact, I think it's very good.  I just think that some first round playoff games are little more than scrimmages.  For example, Longview (9-1 at the time) beat Whitehouse (3-7) 52 to 9; Lake Travis (10-0) beat Austin Crockett (3-6) 58 to 7; Brenham (8-2) beat Manor (2-8) 49 to 14; Refugio (10-0) beat Boling (4-6) 69 to 20; and Dallas Skyline (10-0) beat Garland Rowlett (4-6) 38 to 0 in their first round playoff games last season. 

[badndn]

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I have no problem with badndn's formula.  In fact, I think it's very good.  I just think that some first round playoff games are little more than scrimmages.  For example, Longview (9-1 at the time) beat Whitehouse (3-7) 52 to 9; Lake Travis (10-0) beat Austin Crockett (3-6) 58 to 7; Brenham (8-2) beat Manor (2-8) 49 to 14; Refugio (10-0) beat Boling (4-6) 69 to 20; and Dallas Skyline (10-0) beat Garland Rowlett (4-6) 38 to 0 in their first round playoff games last season.   
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Thats understood, but per capita there are more good matchups than bad in the first round, so it would be hard to handicap. I guess the only other way to do it would have been to give a point for 1st rnd, 2 for 2nd and so on.

[liltex]

As it stands I think this is a great system to measure where you are and where you want to be.A brilliant idea Badndn.