Yates' 100-point streak ends in win over Westbury

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[size=12pt]Yates' 100-point streak ends in win over Westbury[/size]

By MAURICE BOBB For the Chronicle

Jan. 20, 2010, 10:23PM

Scoring six points with 1:30 remaining in a basketball game may sound like an attainable goal, but for Yates, it was mission impossible.

Unable to log its 12th 100-point plus game for the season, the Lions, ranked No. 3 in the nation on USA Today’s Super 25, had to settle for a 94-64 win over Westbury Wednesday night at Barnett Stadium.

Brandon Peters scored 28 points, Joe Young scored 25 and Elton Roy added 19 for Yates, which has won its 43rd straight game, including last season. Marquis Jones tallied 15 points for the Rebels, who had a three-game winning streak snapped.

Westbury employed patience and methodical passing as its game strategy in the opening period. The Rebels elected to slow things down, even on would-be fast breaks, to keep the Lions from running up the score. By the end of the first quarter, the Westbury had successfully put a tourniquet on the Yates' high-scoring ways, holding the Lions to 16 first-quarter points.

Westbury continued to fluster Yates with the slowed pace in the second quarter. But even when the going was slow, the Lions found ways to break out of the trance for key rallies. Roy found enough space on the wing to shoot three jumpers from behind the arc, netting 15 points by halftime.

Fired up, the Lions broke out of Westbury’s slow dance in the third quarter when Roy lobbed an alley-oop to Peters, who emphatically flushed it home, to go up by 14 with 6:36 remaining. Roy and Peters connected for two more highlight-reel alley-oops in the fourth, as Yates began to gain steam to go up 66-44.

With less than three minutes to go, Peters broke away for a crowd-pleasing, 360-degree dunk to push the Lions’ total to 84.

[b]From that point on, Yates employed a strategy of their own: immediately foul on the inbounds play. Westbury went to the free-throw line seven times in that span, giving the Lions plenty of opportunities to pad their point total to triple-digits, but missed shots and broken plays tripped them up as the clock wound down.[b]

[bullets13]

they're fouling when up 30 to get the ball back so they can score more points?  that's ridiculous.  it kind of takes the air out of the whole "if you can't stop them, it's your fault" and the "it's the coach's job to come up with a gameplan to slow them down" argument.  this is classless.  i'm glad they didn't break 100. 

[westend1]

It's the only way the know how to play.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="bullets13" post="747285" timestamp="1264083920"]
they're fouling when up 30 to get the ball back so they can score more points?  that's ridiculous.  it kind of takes the air out of the whole "if you can't stop them, it's your fault" and the "it's the coach's job to come up with a gameplan to slow them down" argument.  this is classless.  i'm glad they didn't break 100.  
[/quote]This is all on a level you would never understand. It's about exposure on a national level. National ranking (not State, local, regional, etc). It's about Nike pushing some buttons in the future for some people.

[Guest GCMPats]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="747353" timestamp="1264087104"]
[quote author=bullets13 link=topic=65031.msg747285#msg747285 date=1264083920]
they're fouling when up 30 to get the ball back so they can score more points?  that's ridiculous.  it kind of takes the air out of the whole "if you can't stop them, it's your fault" and the "it's the coach's job to come up with a gameplan to slow them down" argument.  this is classless.  i'm glad they didn't break 100.  
[/quote][b]This is all on a level you would never understand[/b]. It's about exposure on a national level. National ranking (not State, local, regional, etc). It's about Nike pushing some buttons in the future for some people.
[/quote]

I am quite educated, please help me better understand.

[team first]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="747353" timestamp="1264087104"]
[quote author=bullets13 link=topic=65031.msg747285#msg747285 date=1264083920]
they're fouling when up 30 to get the ball back so they can score more points?  that's ridiculous.  it kind of takes the air out of the whole "if you can't stop them, it's your fault" and the "it's the coach's job to come up with a gameplan to slow them down" argument.  this is classless.  i'm glad they didn't break 100.  
[/quote]This is all on a level you would never understand. It's about exposure on a national level. National ranking (not State, local, regional, etc). It's about Nike pushing some buttons in the future for some people.
[/quote]

blue it is obvious something u will never understand, if they really where fouling to try and reach 100? wow.

[westend1]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="747353" timestamp="1264087104"]
[quote author=bullets13 link=topic=65031.msg747285#msg747285 date=1264083920]
they're fouling when up 30 to get the ball back so they can score more points?  that's ridiculous.  it kind of takes the air out of the whole "if you can't stop them, it's your fault" and the "it's the coach's job to come up with a gameplan to slow them down" argument.  this is classless.  i'm glad they didn't break 100.  
[/quote]This is all on a level you would never understand. It's about exposure on a national level. National ranking (not State, local, regional, etc). It's about Nike pushing some buttons in the future for some people.
[/quote]

You are right in one respect.  I will never "understand" how some coach/AD could be so classless.   The whole school over there is a joke.  Nobody is going to remember a paper title, where they don't actually play the other good teams.  They will however, remember that Yates has no class.  Nice legacy.           ::)

[Coach Schrapps]

Hold on now not saying what they are doing is right or wrong but Yates has beaten some national powers like Montrose Christian. They also have won tournaments in Alabama and Hawaii so they have beaten the good teams.

[BLUEDOVE3]

Fellas, whether you want to buy into this or not, it really doesn't matter because it's the way of the shoe world. Shoe contracts, leverage for summer coaching jobs on elite summer basketball teams (driven by Nike). National rankings solidifies another shoe contract for the school to make it somewhat simple for you to understand. ;)

[Guest GCMPats]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="747429" timestamp="1264094117"]
Fellas, whether you want to buy into this or not, it really doesn't matter because it's the way of the shoe world. Shoe contracts, leverage for summer coaching jobs on elite summer basketball teams (driven by Nike). National rankings solidifies another shoe contract for the school to make it somewhat simple for you to understand. ;)
[/quote]

Shoe contracts? Who is getting shoe contracts? My school wears Nike, but I can assure you that Nike cannot "provide" these athletes with any shoes nor pay high school coaches to do so either. It's a violation of UIL and NCAA Amateur status laws.

[hawkdad]

I guess now they only get one shoe a piece!! ;D ;D

[bullets13]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="747353" timestamp="1264087104"]
[quote author=bullets13 link=topic=65031.msg747285#msg747285 date=1264083920]
they're fouling when up 30 to get the ball back so they can score more points?  that's ridiculous.  it kind of takes the air out of the whole "if you can't stop them, it's your fault" and the "it's the coach's job to come up with a gameplan to slow them down" argument.  this is classless.  i'm glad they didn't break 100.  
[/quote][b]This is all on a level you would never understand[/b]. It's about exposure on a national level. National ranking (not State, local, regional, etc). It's about Nike pushing some buttons in the future for some people.
[/quote]

and what level is that, exactly?  i know you aren't more intelligent than me, so why are you able to see the "clear picture" while all i see is some jackass running up the score on inferior opponents?   is it from your experience with your nike shoe deal?  or was it when you played for that high school basketball team that was ranked #3 in the nation?  was it when you were a top recruit?    their 1000 point win earlier in the season has gotten them plenty of exposure.  their 43-game win streak has given them plenty of exposure.  their #3 national ranking has given them plenty of exposure.  fouling to get the ball back and score 100 points is not going to help any of these kids get scholarships.  all it will do is make their coach look even worse than he already does.

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="GCMPats" post="747431" timestamp="1264094340"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65031.msg747429#msg747429 date=1264094117]
Fellas, whether you want to buy into this or not, it really doesn't matter because it's the way of the shoe world. Shoe contracts, leverage for summer coaching jobs on elite summer basketball teams (driven by Nike). National rankings solidifies another shoe contract for the school to make it somewhat simple for you to understand. ;)
[/quote]

Shoe contracts? Who is getting shoe contracts? My school wears Nike, but I can assure you that Nike cannot "provide" these athletes with any shoes nor pay high school coaches to do so either. It's a violation of UIL and NCAA Amateur status laws.
[/quote]OOOPS!

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="bullets13" post="747467" timestamp="1264097784"]
[quote author=BLUEDOVE3 link=topic=65031.msg747353#msg747353 date=1264087104]
[quote author=bullets13 link=topic=65031.msg747285#msg747285 date=1264083920]
they're fouling when up 30 to get the ball back so they can score more points?  that's ridiculous.  it kind of takes the air out of the whole "if you can't stop them, it's your fault" and the "it's the coach's job to come up with a gameplan to slow them down" argument.  this is classless.  i'm glad they didn't break 100.  
[/quote][b]This is all on a level you would never understand[/b]. It's about exposure on a national level. National ranking (not State, local, regional, etc). It's about Nike pushing some buttons in the future for some people.
[/quote]

and what level is that, exactly?  i know you aren't more intelligent than me, so why are you able to see the "clear picture" while all i see is some jackass running up the score on inferior opponents?   is it from your experience with your nike shoe deal?  or was it when you played for that high school basketball team that was ranked #3 in the nation?  was it when you were a top recruit?    their 1000 point win earlier in the season has gotten them plenty of exposure.  their 43-game win streak has given them plenty of exposure.  their #3 national ranking has given them plenty of exposure.  fouling to get the ball back and score 100 points is not going to help any of these kids get scholarships.  all it will do is make their coach look even worse than he already does.
[/quote]That coach is being considered for one of the best "summer" coaching jobs (Nike sponsored) right now. But all you want to focus on is a team scoring over 100 points. Yates has always played this way. Just have a better club now.

[hawkdad]

What are you saying Dove, that Yates always fouls on purpose in order to get the ball back so they can score 100 points, or that the coach is just doing this for his own personal gains?

[BLUEDOVE3]

[quote name="shackbully" post="747485" timestamp="1264098854"]
What are you saying Dove, that Yates always fouls on purpose in order to get the ball back so they can score 100 points, or that the coach is just doing this for his own personal gains?
[/quote]nope 8)

[bullets13]

[quote name="shackbully" post="747485" timestamp="1264098854"]
What are you saying Dove, that Yates always fouls on purpose in order to get the ball back so they can score 100 points, or that the coach is just doing this for his own personal gains?
[/quote]

whether he's saying it or not, both appear to be true, don't they?

[hawkdad]

[quote name="BLUEDOVE3" post="747489" timestamp="1264099045"]
[quote author=shackbully link=topic=65031.msg747485#msg747485 date=1264098854]
What are you saying Dove, that Yates always fouls on purpose in order to get the ball back so they can score 100 points, or that the coach is just doing this for his own personal gains?
[/quote]nope 8)
[/quote]

If neither is true then tell us again why they fouled on purpose to try and score 100 points.

[bullets13]

why would nike want him to coach one of their summer jobs... wasn't it wise himself that said that Yates "only knows how to play one way"?  I think i'd rather have a coach who spent some time teaching his players various facets of the game beyond simply running-and-gunning and outathleting your opponents.

[AggiesAreWe]

Up 30 and fouling on every inbounds play so that they can get the ball back in order for them to score over 100 points.

PATHETIC!!!!


People that are in support of this kind of coaching are simply clueless.

[team first]

Blue, come on buddy..Big difference in public school basketball and the AAU world...One huge difference is that the public school coaches and system have been educated about sportmanship and class...This guy could never lose and not have my respect..It's about one thing only for him.." LOOK AT ME" and my scores..But some are right on here, they only know how to play one way, and that is WITHOUT CLASS!! all goes back to the leadership doesnt it?...This is the AAU mentality that we hear about all of the time.
This last episode says it all...

[AirForce84]

Question: From a coaching standpoint, how different is the strategy of holding the ball to keep someone else from scoring than doing something to get the ball back so you can score? (in this case fouling).

[AggiesAreWe]

In this case, Yates didn't "need" to score, they were up by 30 with less than 2 minutes to play. I see that as a big difference.

A team holding the ball with under 2 minutes left leading by 30 is doing what they can to keep it from getting out of hand.

If a team is holding the ball and is trailing by 30 with under 2 minutes to play, then why would the team that is leading care if they did that? That would insure a win for them.

[BLUEDOVE3]

Goals! They were going for a record at this particular time. Let's see, I think they are #3 in the nation. I'm sure their other goal is to reach #1. You have to do it in style if you want notice from the media, and I'm not speaking of the Beaumont Enterprise ;)

[team first]

They are trying to do it in style, trying to score 100...AAU style...If they were doing it with class...they get to 96 and hold it..shake hands and be respected for it....Most likely then everyone else wants you to coninue to have big time success!