Pre-Spring 20-4A Rankings

[Coach Parker]

Bear,
I have been attending Vidor games for over 10 years.  I have never once heard a racial remark made by anyone.  Now im sure some idiot here in Vidor has said something that has embarrassed the 99.99% of our community.  We are working hard at changing the image that has been given to us by a few individuals many years ago. 
It seems that every thread that has anything to do with Vidor leads to some type of racial comment.  The people of Vidor today are not the people of Vidor 40 years ago.  Many times I have heard racial comments directed to our players in one sport or another and I have never commented or judged that community by the ignorance of a few idiots.  Please give us the same courtesy.  Dont feed the fire by making comments that make all of us look bad

[Guest JoesBros]

[quote name="A Bear's Bear" post="763632" timestamp="1266778897"]
[quote author=Tim Riggins link=topic=66232.msg763383#msg763383 date=1266717060]
[quote author=JoesBros link=topic=66232.msg763287#msg763287 date=1266698635]
And btw, the fan's conduct at last seaon's homecoming game against LCM was shameful and embarrassing.

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Enlighten me on this
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Several flare-ups resulted in a group of Vidor fans (overflow, had to sit on LCM side) had to be escorted out by police for inappropriate behavior, though in fairness, an LCM student was also forced to leave.  There was also reports of less-than-friendly heckling by Vidor fans as LCM walked to and from the locker room at half-time and at the end of the game.  Most comments were simply untasteful, although there were reports (and I, at the concession stand, heard one fan myself) of racial slurs...However, i am obviously calling out vidor fans in general.
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and that should not be a factor in your rankings either

[badndn]

Championship teams are made up front on the lines.
that said, PNG may be losing a stud RB and some WR and DB's, but our OLine and DLines will be back in full force with extras for rotation. The QB will be back for year #2 under Faircloth. The big question marks will be at WR and DB (anyone who saw Sophomore Bertrand run on JV last year knows we will be good at RB). Two names to remember from our undefeated JV, both Sophomore WR's, Nelson and Lacour.

Not picking just yet, but I like the fact that the NDNs return some meat!

[PNG Proud]

True, PNG is losing a "stud running back", but remember, he wasn't a stud RB LAST yr.  He only became a "stud" under the new system, and I look to re-load with another better than average RB again this yr.  We'll be fine,  trust me.

[bojonomore]

[quote name="PNG Proud" post="764347" timestamp="1266887195"]
True, PNG is losing a "stud running back", but remember, he wasn't a stud RB LAST yr.  He only became a "stud" under the new system, and I look to re-load with another better than average RB again this yr.  We'll be fine,  trust me.
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Yeah with as many players as PNG has, they are never worried about a loss of seniors, and i don't think the importance of a hard-working off-season can be stressed enough (10-15 pounds, added speed, strength, and improved skill set.)  Take LCM's gameday programs from the last two years-being the only one i can back with factual evidence: you can see significant added weight on almost all of the non-linemen. 

[D3zii]

Central will have alot comeing back..Well more than we had comeing back last year.
Thats a plus :).

[Jackthehammer]

[quote name="Coach Parker" post="764011" timestamp="1266855916"]
Bear,
I have been attending Vidor games for over 10 years.  I have never once heard a racial remark made by anyone.  Now im sure some idiot here in Vidor has said something that has embarrassed the 99.99% of our community.  We are working hard at changing the image that has been given to us by a few individuals many years ago. 
It seems that every thread that has anything to do with Vidor leads to some type of racial comment.  The people of Vidor today are not the people of Vidor 40 years ago.  Many times I have heard racial comments directed to our players in one sport or another and I have never commented or judged that community by the ignorance of a few idiots.  Please give us the same courtesy.  Dont feed the fire by making comments that make all of us look bad
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Ok first comment of the year. I think though I check on here most days. After the story on the Vidor Central either Pre or Post game prayer I dont think its fair to tie the Vidor program to the old Vidor ways years ago. Coach Matthews is a class act in Vidor and it looks like he is working very hard to teach his kids more than just football.

[bigtank_77705]

1st Place 3 way tie: Nederland if Forney is the QB and they protect him. Central SPEED, SPEED, SPEED. PNG Do not see repeat of last year's performance but still very good
4th Place 2 way tie: LCM will be better/ Ozen will be better and both may special a few poeple.
5th - 8th any order

[D3zii]

Central, Yes we all know Central has speed and is probly one of the Fastest Teams in this Region year in and year out , possibly the state..
But ive notice that can only get you so  far on just your speed and athletisim. i think if we want to be in it next year for the long run, winning district and going farther this year then we have the pass 2 years, were gone to have to be discipline..Just My Opinon

[BrenhamFan]

[quote name="D3zii" post="766880" timestamp="1267156814"]
Central, Yes we all know Central has speed and is probly one of the Fastest Teams in this Region year in and year out , possibly the state..
But ive notice that can only get you so  far on just your speed and athletisim. i think if we want to be in it next year for the long run, winning district and going farther this year then we have the pass 2 years, were gone to have to be discipline..Just My Opinon
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I agree.  Look at Angleton.  That was the fastest team I have ever seen.  They were just lacking diciplene and coaching.

[D3zii]

Yea..Thats a really good team..
But Yea i think if we get more diciplene with the Speed and athlelets we have, we can be in it next year, in district n play-offs..
From what i heard this Group comeing up is one of the most Athletic classess as a whole to come thur here, just no diciplene

[bigtank_77705]

I agree, but speed is the only thing that can not be coached up and i know coach washington will and is coaching his them right know during the offseason to be more discipline. But as lone as Central has the speed that it has they will always have an advantage on most teams they face not only in 20-4a but the state.

[KFDM COOP]

Will be a tough District to predict again!

[Ned11str8]

1. Nederland
2. Central
3. PNG
4. Vidor
5. Livingston
6. Ozen
7. Lumberton

[D3zii]

[quote name="bigtank_77705" post="767042" timestamp="1267200260"]
I agree, but speed is the only thing that can not be coached up and i know coach washington will and is coaching his them right know during the offseason to be more discipline. But as lone as Central has the speed that it has they will always have an advantage on most teams they face not only in 20-4a but the state.
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True.
Speed is the only thing that cant be coached.. So As long as we have our speed and can be more discipline, I see Us being really good thus year..

[bojonomore]

[quote name="Ned11str8" post="788832" timestamp="1270948339"]
1. Nederland
2. Central
3. PNG
4. Vidor
5. Livingston
6. Ozen
7. Lumberton
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Ha were you waiting for someone to point out you missed LCM so you could trash-talk? Really, what is with you dissing LCM on every thread you comment on?  Seems to me like someone has a childish personal beef-am i right?  And don't bother denying it, b/c i have two other posts i can bring up.   

[skipper]

LC-M will be in the playoffs count on it

[TITAN POWER]

[quote name="A Bear's Bear" post="788868" timestamp="1270956586"]
[quote author=Ned11str8 link=topic=66232.msg788832#msg788832 date=1270948339]
1. Nederland
2. Central
3. PNG
4. Vidor
5. Livingston
6. Ozen
7. Lumberton
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Ha were you waiting for someone to point out you missed LCM so you could trash-talk? Really, what is with you dissing LCM on every thread you comment on?  Seems to me like someone has a childish personal beef-am i right?  And don't bother denying it, b/c i have two other posts i can bring up.   
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Looks like Bear is living in glass houses and shouldn't be throwing rocks at anyone.  Look what you said about Vidor in this post.  Looks like someone needs to get out of the kitchen. ::)

[ForeverADog]

1. PNG
2. Central
3. Nederland
4. LCM
5. Ozen
6. Livingston
7. Lumberton
8. Vidor

PNG Central and Nederland get in pretty easy. LCM ozen and Livingston fight for the 4th spot.

[PN-G bamatex]

[quote name="Ned11str8" post="788832" timestamp="1270948339"]
1. Nederland
2. Central
3. PNG
4. Vidor
5. Livingston
6. Ozen
7. Lumberton
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Forgetting someone?

Typical bulldog.... ;D

[BigWolf10]

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[quote author=Ned11str8 link=topic=66232.msg788832#msg788832 date=1270948339]
1. Nederland
2. Central
3. PNG
4. Vidor
5. Livingston
6. Ozen
7. Lumberton
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Forgetting someone?

Typical bulldog.... ;D
[/quote]OUCH!!!! :D

[Guest scottpellegrin93]

You got to think about whats coming back and how did that team JV do...If you Ask me you can't go wrong with the district champs being
PN-G they Both went undefeated untill the playoffs


1. PN-G
2. Nederland
3. Central
4. LC-M
5. Livingston
6. Vidor
7. Ozen
8. Lumberton

[Ned11str8]

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You got to think about whats coming back and [color=red]how did that team JV do[/color]...If you Ask me you can't go wrong with the district champs being
PN-G they Both went undefeated untill the playoffs


1. PN-G
2. Nederland
3. Central
4. LC-M
5. Livingston
6. Vidor
7. Ozen
8. Lumberton
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How did the JV teams do ?

[Guest scottpellegrin93]

Everyone besides you ned11str8 knew exactly what I meant...you don't got anything better to do then pick up grammer errors on a message board and post them

[D3zii]

Umm..I know everone wants to believe that Because their JV was Really good their Varsity team will be the same way.

But im here to tell you, IMO just because your JV teams were so good dosent mean your Varsity team will be all that next year..

1. This is Varsity. Everythings Faster, Bigger and Stronger. The Team you whopped up on is working that much harder to do the same to you..
2. Some players may respond Diffrent to the Varsity level.. You may say Football is football no matter who you play, But why do you think You get draft Bust every Year..
3. You never know What Juniors from last Year Played Varsity but didnt start, maybe thats why the JV wasnt so good.. Ever Thought about that..

IDK that was just On my mind. Now im not saying they wont be good..Im just tired of seeing Our JV, was like this or we went undefeated on JV. Not just on here, Every were