HUM398 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 [url=http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf] http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf [/url][url=http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments/2010/enrollment/4A_fb_enroll.pdf]http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments/2010/enrollment/4A_fb_enroll.pdf[/url]My biggest comment is on 19-4a, It tells you all sorts of things that North Forest High is down by as much as it is... two years ago they started with 2038 Kids, now they are sitting at 1625. Usually drops that significant are attributed to splits, but after a merger the school is still losing kids like crazy. at this pace in 4 years they will be a 3a school, but more probable they will be closing their doors as a district. Also, in 5a...Plano East recorded 6171 kids... That is such a large discrepancy. 2054-6171... If Plano East had any sort of coaching they would take advantage of the pure numbers they have...although, it seems that most schools usually max out at 300-350 kids in a program.
Guest GCMPats Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name="HUM398" post="762707" timestamp="1266604353"][url=http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf] http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments..._fb_enroll.pdf [/url][url=http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments/2010/enrollment/4A_fb_enroll.pdf]http://www.utexas.edu/uil/alignments/2010/enrollment/4A_fb_enroll.pdf[/url]My biggest comment is on 19-4a, It tells you all sorts of things that North Forest High is down by as much as it is... two years ago they started with 2038 Kids, now they are sitting at 1625. Usually drops that significant are attributed to splits, but after a merger the school is still losing kids like crazy. at this pace in 4 years they will be a 3a school, but more probable they will be closing their doors as a district. Also, in 5a...Plano East recorded 6171 kids... That is such a large discrepancy. 2054-6171... If Plano East had any sort of coaching they would take advantage of the pure numbers they have...although, it seems that most schools usually max out at 300-350 kids in a program. [/quote]As long as North Forrest I S D is in the shape it's in, their numbers will continue to drop.Plano East is a baseball school. Plano is the football school.
AggiesAreWe Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 District 22-4A is interesting. Five of the seven schools in that district have 3A numbers but elected to stay 4A. Doesn't surprise me as 4 of these schools have had 3A numbers for the last 3 realignments.
AggiesAreWe Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 Another interesting point, I see no reason for Lufkin Hudson to not be playing football. Their enrollment is 705, which makes them the second largest school in the 18-3A district.What's up with that?
Guest GCMPats Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 Plano ISD has 3 high schools for 11th-12th: Plano (2597), Plano West(1903), and Plano East (2721).They have 5 Secondary schools for 9th - 10th: Clark (1354), Jasper (1948), Shepton (1600), Williams (2006) and Vines (1281).Those numbers they submit to the UIL are somewhat deceiving.
HUM398 Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name="GCMPats" post="762750" timestamp="1266607344"]Plano ISD has 3 high schools for 11th-12th: Plano (2597), Plano West(1903), and Plano East (2721).They have 5 Secondary schools for 9th - 10th: Clark (1354), Jasper (1948), Shepton (1600), Williams (2006) and Vines (1281).Those numbers they submit to the UIL are somewhat deceiving.[/quote]They aren't really deceiving. Plano HS uses a system very similar to North Shore (Senior Campuses, and Underclassmen campuses)...these are designed to be Mega High Schools. These smaller feeding school act as tanks to better create learning environments for the appropriate age group. The 9th-10th grade campuses for PEHS are Clark and Jaspar...They are still PEHS as a collective...It just like the 9th grade centers you saw pop up all over the place in the 90's...but taken to an extreme.using your logic, North Shore doesn't actually have 4400+ kids...they only have about half that...as the two campuses are about 3 miles apart.
Tim Riggins Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 With all the growth Lumberton is experiencing, you'd think they would have more students in high school. Guess the new folks either have young children, no children or are retired.
HUM398 Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name="Tim Riggins" post="762811" timestamp="1266612766"]With all the growth Lumberton is experiencing, you'd think they would have more students in high school. Guess the new folks either have young children, no children or are retired.[/quote]I was unaware that they were experiencing growth.
westend1 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 Looks like Brook will be a "big" school again come playoff time.
Guest GCMPats Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name="HUM398" post="762808" timestamp="1266612425"][quote author=GCMPats link=topic=66267.msg762750#msg762750 date=1266607344]Plano ISD has 3 high schools for 11th-12th: Plano (2597), Plano West(1903), and Plano East (2721).They have 5 Secondary schools for 9th - 10th: Clark (1354), Jasper (1948), Shepton (1600), Williams (2006) and Vines (1281).Those numbers they submit to the UIL are somewhat deceiving.[/quote]They aren't really deceiving. Plano HS uses a system very similar to North Shore (Senior Campuses, and Underclassmen campuses)...these are designed to be Mega High Schools. These smaller feeding school act as tanks to better create learning environments for the appropriate age group. The 9th-10th grade campuses for PEHS are Clark and Jaspar...They are still PEHS as a collective...It just like the 9th grade centers you saw pop up all over the place in the 90's...but taken to an extreme.using your logic, North Shore doesn't actually have 4400+ kids...they only have about half that...as the two campuses are about 3 miles apart.[/quote]I was speaking more to the size of a campus, not the actual number of students. It makes sense that a school would be more competitive in all UIL activities if they have a pool of 4,000-6,000 to choose from. That's why I have always been a proponent of a 6A classification. There's just not enough 6A schools to justify it.
sig220 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 You are right. There are probably less of the true 6A schools than there once were. West Brook is D1 by 7 students. However, I think the D2 schools were as good if not better than the D1s this year.
Javelina Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 the Plano East numbers will be down next go around. There will be another high school opening on the east side of Plano East fall of 2011
HUM398 Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name="sig220" post="762845" timestamp="1266618314"]You are right. There are probably less of the true 6A schools than there once were. West Brook is D1 by 7 students. However, I think the D2 schools were as good if not better than the D1s this year.[/quote]Generally speaking, after about 1900-2000 kids...programs seem to exibit a maximum of 300-350 kids in a football program. You won't really see your Mega Schools do much better then that. As far as pure numbers go, if you are around 2000 kids with about 25% participation you have the numbers to compete across the board...The numbers after about 2000 are really testament to talent levels.
badndn Posted February 20, 2010 Report Posted February 20, 2010 The total number of participants may top out around 350, but the difference is with over 6000 students, that 350 is loaded with talent. The smaller 5A schools 2000-3000 may have 350 kids, but only a handful of studs.
BMTSoulja1 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Posted February 20, 2010 Looks like Central is seperating itself from the rest of the pack... 8)
88Warrior Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 [quote name="BMTSoulja1" post="763241" timestamp="1266685714"]Looks like Central is seperating itself from the rest of the pack... 8)[/quote] That would be good to see after all these years....no dog in the hunt but from the outside looking in Central has had to play 3rd fiddle in the city behind WB and Ozen...Just goes to show how valuable those good, solid coaches Central has brought in over the last few years were in establishing a solid foundation...Good Luck Jags..
formercaveman Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 [quote name="Javelina" post="762859" timestamp="1266621225"]the Plano East numbers will be down next go around. There will be another high school opening on the east side of Plano East fall of 2011[/quote]Does this mean the new school will be named Plano Easter.Sorry, had to do it. ;)
rmac Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 Hudson made the decision several years ago not to start a football program mainly because of the expense. Just think build practice facilities, a stadium, equip all kids from 7th grade up, and hire a coaching staff. I have never put a pencil to it, but I am sure you are talking several million dollars just to start up. The voters of that area did not want to spend the money.
LTrain Posted February 25, 2010 Report Posted February 25, 2010 [quote name="HUM398" post="762812" timestamp="1266612988"][quote author=Tim Riggins link=topic=66267.msg762811#msg762811 date=1266612766]With all the growth Lumberton is experiencing, you'd think they would have more students in high school. Guess the new folks either have young children, no children or are retired.[/quote]I was unaware that they were experiencing growth. [/quote]Have you not been through Lumberton in the past few years?
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