Crazy Card Fan Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 Found this document on the ULM website, it is there guiding document that maps out what they want to achieve and how they plan to do it.http://www.ulmwarhawks.com/fls/19000/ULMSP.pdfI think if you take the time to read through some of it you will be very impressed.I'm a business person, and a former business student, I love this sort of thing. And I think (know) that this is exactly what is lacking at Lamar, and clear, organized, and achievable system that sets out the programs goals and a way to achieve them.
TexasTerror Posted April 2, 2010 Report Posted April 2, 2010 SHSU is presently in the process of doing the exact same thing, you guys may recall I posted such information on these forums...TXST has already completed a similar study, evaluation of their program...
Guest coachacola Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Lamar supposedly did one before bringing football back but it wasn't made public so it's hard to say what was in it.
Crazy Card Fan Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Posted April 3, 2010 I can 100% guarantee they did not.Which is unfortunate.
weslinder Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Yes they do. The campus master plan is the physical change part of that plan, and it has been published for 6 years. Here is the athletic portion of that:http://www.lamar.edu/newsevents/articles/221_2575.htm
Crazy Card Fan Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Posted April 3, 2010 How is this any sort of a guiding document? Its a facilities report. Not commissioned by the Athletics Department. Lamar Athletics has no guiding principles, no direction, and no plan. and consequently is languishing. This is all due to a lack of effective leadership.Good things have happened, but it has been the result of good work (or luck) of the individual coaches.
Guest coachacola Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 And it's probably no coincidence that ULM leaves the Southland for the Sun Belt while Lamar leaves Sun Belt for the Southland.
AJ25 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 I don't think the 'important' people at Lamar realize how close they are to being at the same national level as these others schools.. Either that or they don't care. Let's face it, other than the enginerring and nursing programs this isn't a great educational school. Basically anyone will be accepted. Either they make the place hard to get into and turn it into a fine academic university, or they turn the focus to sports and leave the education as is. Baseball program is very close. With the facility upgrades, they can pull a lot of great recruits. If they'll ever add a visitor locker room, they'll pull great teams. Football is back, they'll be playing big name schools in a few years getting their name out there. Basketball, who knows. Soccer is here, softball is coming. Lamar is very close, but the important people are taking no initiative to put Lamar's name out there and enhance the school in any single way.
Guest tigersvoice Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 [quote name="AJ25" post="786262" timestamp="1270488327"]I don't think the 'important' people at Lamar realize how close they are to being at the same national level as these others schools.. Either that or they don't care. Let's face it, other than the enginerring and nursing programs this isn't a great educational school. Basically anyone will be accepted. Either they make the place hard to get into and turn it into a fine academic university, or they turn the focus to sports and leave the education as is. Baseball program is very close. With the facility upgrades, they can pull a lot of great recruits. If they'll ever add a visitor locker room, they'll pull great teams. Football is back, they'll be playing big name schools in a few years getting their name out there. Basketball, who knows. Soccer is here, softball is coming. Lamar is very close, but the important people are taking no initiative to put Lamar's name out there and enhance the school in any single way.[/quote]From a lot of your previous posts, I get the impression that Lamar wanted you to come to school there, but you were too good to settle for Lamar. Why is it that now you are so willing to offer your expert opinion on everything that Lamar does?Could you just go on about your business and let the Lamar Officials run the program at Lamar?
AJ25 Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 [quote name="tigersvoice" post="786276" timestamp="1270494357"][quote author=AJ25 link=topic=68131.msg786262#msg786262 date=1270488327]I don't think the 'important' people at Lamar realize how close they are to being at the same national level as these others schools.. Either that or they don't care. Let's face it, other than the enginerring and nursing programs this isn't a great educational school. Basically anyone will be accepted. Either they make the place hard to get into and turn it into a fine academic university, or they turn the focus to sports and leave the education as is. Baseball program is very close. With the facility upgrades, they can pull a lot of great recruits. If they'll ever add a visitor locker room, they'll pull great teams. Football is back, they'll be playing big name schools in a few years getting their name out there. Basketball, who knows. Soccer is here, softball is coming. Lamar is very close, but the important people are taking no initiative to put Lamar's name out there and enhance the school in any single way.[/quote]From a lot of your previous posts, I get the impression that Lamar wanted you to come to school there, but you were too good to settle for Lamar. Why is it that now you are so willing to offer your expert opinion on everything that Lamar does?Could you just go on about your business and let the Lamar Officials run the program at Lamar?[/quote]No, that's not it at all. It's my hometown school and I want it to be great. I don't want it to be an average university.. And if I was a person in power I wouldn't settle for that. At least admit the fact that everything I pointed out was true.. Because it is. I just wish they would be pushing every program to the public and getting people excited about every sport, not just football. When you take notice of one sport, you'll follow another.. And another. But at your wish I'll try and stay off this thread. Sorry for you thinking that I'm conceited or anything like that, because if you knew me.. You'd know I'm very different from that.
ForeverADog Posted April 5, 2010 Report Posted April 5, 2010 No AJ I agree with most of what you said. I think with an extra push from the athletic department, the president, and a few boosters Lamar could be a top mid major program in several sports like baseball, volleyball, basketball, football, and soccer within the next 5 to 8 years. That would be great and could get them in a larger conference which means more money. I personally just don't see the will from a lot of the areas in the athletic department. And this thread is just part of it. Where is the list of goals for LU athletics? I would really like to see it.
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