Local coaches ponder possibility of Class 6A/TOC MOCKS

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="820351" timestamp="1280075120"]
Saw these numbers posted on another site for a mock 6A:


6A   2581 and up
5A   1435 - 2580
4A   625 - 1434
3A   300 - 624
2A   160 - 299
1A   159 and down
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Going by these numbers, these are the classifications for our local schools:


6A  No school

5A
West Brook
PAM
Baytown Sterling
Baytown Lee
Channelview
Crosby
Galena Park
GC Memorial
CE King
North Forest
Beaumont Central
Nederland

4A
PNG
Vidor
Barbers Hill
Dayton
Ozen
LCM
Livingston
Lumberton
Jasper
Bridge City
Silsbee
WOS
Cleveland
Huffman
Liberty
Splendora

3A
Hardin-Jefferson
Hamshire-Fannett
Orangefield
Coldspring
Anahuac
Buna
Tarkington
East Chambers
Hardin
Kountze
Newton
Warren
Woodville
Kirbyville
Shepherd

2A
Corrigan-Camden
Deweyville
Groveton
Hemphill
New Waverly
San Augustine
Colmesneil
Lovelady
West Hardin
West Sabine

1A
Hull-Daisetta
Burkeville
Evadale
High Island
Sabine Pass
Chester

[KFDM COOP]

Look for it to happen!

[WO-S 89]

Do you think this would be the local district if it happens.

PNG
Vidor
Ozen
LCM
Lumberton
Jasper
Bridge City
Silsbee
WO-S

[Guest KHS 89]

[quote name="WO-S 89" post="820370" timestamp="1280080390"]
Do you think this would be the local district if it happens.

PNG
Vidor
Ozen
LCM
Lumberton
Jasper
Bridge City
Silsbee
WO-S


[/quote]

crazy to think Nederland would not be a district game for PN-G under this possible district.

[BMTSoulja1]

Well, they'll just put them in Non-District like they do Central and WB when Central moved down to 4a...

[liltex]

Oh heck no,could't be could it .Dayton & Liberty in the same district.If it happens guess things you wish for do come true it's been along time to avenge a 1963 massacre of Dayton by Liberty 72-6 followed in 1964 by a 60-0 score so that means just to get even we need to spank them 126-0.Ya'll wouldn't hold it against us would ya? ??? 8) :'( :D

[Guest ECBucFan]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="820351" timestamp="1280075120"]
Saw these numbers posted on another site for a mock 6A:

4A   625 - 1434
3A   300 - 624
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So what happened to the max ratio of 2:1 aimed for?

[Guest ECBucFan]

[quote name="KFDM COOP" post="820366" timestamp="1280079583"]
Look for it to happen!
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Why? What have you heard, and from who?

[Bigdog]

Well since that mock district has 12 teams in it, that would make for an interesting season...

[KFDM COOP]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="820393" timestamp="1280085329"]
[quote author=KFDM COOP link=topic=71116.msg820366#msg820366 date=1280079583]
Look for it to happen!
[/quote]

Why? What have you heard, and from who?
[/quote] Gut feeling. $$

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

It has to happen. The metroplex IMO is the cause for it. Schools are getting too big too fast. I say next re-alignment it will happen.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="bigdog" post="820394" timestamp="1280085560"]
Well since that mock district has 12 teams in it, that would make for an interesting season...
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Where do you see a 12 team district?

I only posted what classifications our local teams would be in, not what district that would be in.


Also saw a mock that had the numbers for 4A at 715-1430. ECBucFan, there's your 2:1 ratio. ;)

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="ECBucFan" post="820392" timestamp="1280085259"]
[quote author=AggiesAreWe link=topic=71116.msg820351#msg820351 date=1280075120]
Saw these numbers posted on another site for a mock 6A:

4A   625 - 1434
3A   300 - 624
[/quote]

So what happened to the max ratio of 2:1 aimed for?

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Not sure that the UIL could accomlish this with the 6A format. As it is right now in 5A, you have schools that are more than 2 times the size of other 5A schools.

[rschuldt]

Dayton vs. Liberty is what you could call a Trinity River Rivalry (TRR).

[Matthew328]

I just finished my mock alignment...here's my cut offs


Class 6A 2255-Up 202 schools
Class 5A 1435-2254 199 schools
Class 4A 715-1434 173 schools
Class 3A 345-714 163 schools
Class 2A Div. 1 261-344 85  schools
Class 2A Div. 2 195-260 87  schools
Class A Div. 1 149-194 77  schools
Class A Div. 2 100-148.5 79 schools


Mind you I included the 17 new football playing schools for 2012 realignment as well to make it a more realistic projection of what we'll see in 2012.  Division 1/Division 2 will stay...you can't take 4 teams to the playoffs and have just one Division.....season would go past Christmas...I believe this will happen in 2012...also look for an interesting first round twist w/the district champions...

[BrenhamFan]

We have 1438, so if things stay the same and and we don't get any smaller, looks like we'll be 5A. (Prolly the smallest 5A in the state)  Alot can happen in 2 years though.

[Matthew328]

Yes a ton can happen..its just kind of a fun working model for us....DCTF did just 6A but realignment is something you can't do one class or one area...its a domino type affect statewide where you gotta break it all down

[Matthew328]

Here's Class 6A

http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106142

[rschuldt]

Brenhamfan, no sweat yet. My cousins, who live in Fredericksburg, went to FHS several years ago and it was 4A by 3 students. In the 2008 realignment though, they moved back to 3A.

[KFDM COOP]

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820541" timestamp="1280145461"]
Here's Class 6A

http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106142
[/quote] Interesting to see what the UIL does.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820514" timestamp="1280112696"]
I just finished my mock alignment...here's my cut offs


[b]Class 6A 2255-Up 202 schools
Class 5A 1422-2254 199 schools
Class 4A 715-1434 173 schools
Class 3A 345-714 163 schools
Class 2A Div. 1 261-344 85  schools
Class 2A Div. 2 195-260 87  schools
Class A Div. 1 149-194 77  schools
Class A Div. 2 100-148.5 79 schools[/b]


Mind you I included the 17 new football playing schools for 2012 realignment as well to make it a more realistic projection of what we'll see in 2012.  Division 1/Division 2 will stay...you can't take 4 teams to the playoffs and have just one Division.....season would go past Christmas...I believe this will happen in 2012...also look for an interesting first round twist w/the district champions...
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Using Matt's numbers (which look to be pretty realistic) this is what classifications our local teams would fall under. (this is not what districts they would play in, just their classification)



6A
Baytown Sterling
West Brook
Channelview
North Shore
La porte
PA Memorial

5A
Baytown Lee
Crosby
Dayton
Galena Park
GC Memorial
CE King
North Forest
Bmt. Central
Nederland


4A
Barbers Hill
Bmt. Ozen
LCM
Livingston
Lumberton
PNG
Vidor
Jasper
Silsbee
Cleveland
Huffman
Splendora


3A
Center
Diboll
Huntington
Kirbyville
Bridge City
Hamshire-Fannett
Hardin-Jefferson
Orangefield
WOS
Coldspring
Liberty
Shepherd
Tarkington
Anahuac
Buna
East Chambers
Hardin
Kountze
Warren
Woodville


2A DI
Newton
Corrigan-Camden
Hemphill
New Waverly

2A DII
Deweyville
Groveton
San Augustine


1A DI
Colmesneil
Hull-Daisetta
Lovelady
West Hardin
West Sabine

1A DII
Burkeville
Evadale
High Island
Sabine Pass




After looking at this mock alignment, it is obvious that locally, 2A got robbed by 3A. There would be 20 3A teams as compared to only 7 2A teams, with those seven being divided by division. It would be very difficult to district locally our 3A and 2A schools.

6A and 5A locally is easy to figure district wise as each would have a complete district. 4A would split in two local districts with BH, Dayton, Livingston, Cleveland, Huffman and Splendora in one district and Ozen, LCM, Lumberton, PNG, Vidor, Jasper and Silsbee in the other district.

I wouldn't even pretend to try and figure out how the 3A-1A districts locally would fall.


Someone else can give it a try. ;D

[Huggie]

Aggie: I think PNG and Vidor go to 5A.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Domination Station" post="820583" timestamp="1280160401"]
Aggie: I think PNG and Vidor go to 5A.
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Nope. Using these numbers that Matt has for the mock 6A realignment, 5A would be 1435-2254. PNG and Vidor have 1404 and 1416 in this past realignment. They would stay in 4A with these numbers.

[Huggie]

The following cutoff numbers were in Saturday's Bmt Enterprise:

6A - 2215 and up
5A - 1398 - 2214
4A - 604 - 1397
3A - 287.5 - 603
2A - 147 - 287.4
1A - 146 and under

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Domination Station" post="820589" timestamp="1280161061"]
The following cutoff numbers were in Saturday's Bmt Enterprise:

6A - 2215 and up
5A - 1398 - 2214
4A - 604 - 1397
3A - 287.5 - 603
2A - 147 - 287.4
1A - 146 and under
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That's not official numbers, just their estimate like Matt's numbers are just a mock estimate.

Under the Enterprise's numbers, yes PNG and Vidor would move to 5A, but using Matt's numbers (which I used in my post) PNG and Vidor would stay 4A.