Local coaches ponder possibility of Class 6A/TOC MOCKS

[WOSgrad]

Using Matt's numbers, here is what the 3A districts COULD (not will, not should, BUT could...all of this is speculation folks!) turn out:

In one district: Bullard, Center, Diboll, Huntington, Lufkin Hudson, Rusk, Pollok Central

In another:  Buna, Bridge City, Hardin-Jefferson, Kirbyville, Kountze, Orangefield, Warren, West Orange-Stark, Woodville

In another:  Anahuac, Coldspring, East Chambers, Hamshire-Fannett, Hardin, Liberty, Shepherd, Tarkington

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="820599" timestamp="1280162135"]
Using Matt's numbers, here is what the 3A districts COULD (not will, not should, BUT could...all of this is speculation folks!) turn out:

In one district: Bullard, Center, Diboll, Huntington, Lufkin Hudson, Rusk, Pollok Central

In another:  Buna, Bridge City, Hardin-Jefferson, Kountze, Orangefield, Warren, West Orange-Stark, Woodville

In another:  Anahuac, Coldspring, East Chambers, Hamshire-Fannett, Hardin, Liberty, Shepherd, Tarkington


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That's a fair attempt at it. The first district is pretty easy to figure. In the other two, Coldspring is kind of the odd man out, like Livingston is now in our local 4A district. Coldspring is much closer to Warren and Woodville than they are with Anahuac, East Chambers and Hamshire-Fannett.

Other than an occassional BC team, WOS would completely dominate this district.


BTW Grad, you left out Kirbyville. ;)

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Memorial got that many students?

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="scooter!" post="820613" timestamp="1280165050"]
Memorial got that many students?
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Memorial current enrollment number is 2460. In either one of these mock alignments, PAM would go to 6A.

[WOSgrad]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="820605" timestamp="1280162968"]

BTW Grad, you left out Kirbyville. ;)
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Oops.  I had them in a district but forgot to type them in.  That has been corrected.

[WOSgrad]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="820605" timestamp="1280162968"]
[quote author=WOSgrad link=topic=71116.msg820599#msg820599 date=1280162135]
Using Matt's numbers, here is what the 3A districts COULD (not will, not should, BUT could...all of this is speculation folks!) turn out:

In one district: Bullard, Center, Diboll, Huntington, Lufkin Hudson, Rusk, Pollok Central

In another:  Buna, Bridge City, Hardin-Jefferson, Kountze, Orangefield, Warren, West Orange-Stark, Woodville

In another:  Anahuac, Coldspring, East Chambers, Hamshire-Fannett, Hardin, Liberty, Shepherd, Tarkington


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That's a fair attempt at it. The first district is pretty easy to figure. In the other two, Coldspring is kind of the odd man out, like Livingston is now in our local 4A district. Coldspring is much closer to Warren and Woodville than they are with Anahuac, East Chambers and Hamshire-Fannett.

Other than an occassional BC team, WOS would completely dominate this district.


BTW Grad, you left out Kirbyville. ;)
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Coldspring would still have Shepherd and Tarkington (just outside of Cleveland) along the Hwy 59 corridor.

Kountze, Warren and Woodville (Hwy 69 Corridor) and Buna and Kirbyville (96 Corridor) I put in with the Orange County teams (Bridge City, Orangefield and WO-S)and Hardin-Jefferson.

Then I paired western Jefferson County (Hamshire-Fannett) with Liberty Co. (Hardin and Liberty) and Chambers Co. (East Chambers and Anahuac) to pair them up.

WO-S would have battles with Kirbyville and BC.  But after looking at this, I think I would rather the Enterprise numbers be correct and WO-S go back to 4A.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

[quote name="AggiesAreWe" post="820614" timestamp="1280165230"]
[quote author=scooter! link=topic=71116.msg820613#msg820613 date=1280165050]
Memorial got that many students?
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Memorial current enrollment number is 2460. In either one of these mock alignments, PAM would go to 6A.
[/quote]Did they get an influx of students? Just a few years ago they were around 2100. Wow. Guess business is booming in south county.

[Matthew328]

http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106557

Here's 5A

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820970" timestamp="1280244522"]
http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106557

Here's 5A
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Now you have 5A starting at 1422 and not 1435. That would include Dayton in 5A now. PNG and Vidor would still remain 4A.

[Matthew328]

Yeah I had to adjust by 2 schools and that put Dayton in 5A..#'s may move by 2-3 schools as I work through each class

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Matthew328" post="820978" timestamp="1280245461"]
Yeah I had to adjust by 2 schools and that put Dayton in 5A..#'s may move by 2-3 schools as I work through each class
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Appreciate the work. Keep it coming, very interesting to say the least.

Curious to see how you district our local 3A's.

[rschuldt]

And I thought that we were a small 4A school  ???

[NorthoftheBorder]

In both Matt's and the Enterprise mock enrollment numbers really don't change much the enrollment disparity in the current 5-A (new 6-A) which is what I had read is the motivation for considering this change.  You still have a big gap between schools who have enrollments in excess of 3,500 students and all the lower enrollment schools.  Someone point out what I'm missing.  It looks real good for all the other classes.

[Matthew328]

4000-2200 is less than the minimum desired ratio of 2:1....there's very few schools w/enrollments of over 4000 (less than 10 I think) so it does reduce the enrollment disparity somewhat....

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="Matthew328" post="821008" timestamp="1280248183"]
4000-2200 is less than the minimum desired ratio of 2:1....there's very few schools w/enrollments of over 4000 (less than 10 I think) so it does reduce the enrollment disparity somewhat....
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I agree. If I remember correctly, 4 of those 10 teams are in 2 districts.

[WOSgrad]

There are only eight of them:  Plano East (6171), Plano (5270), Allen (5029), Dallas Skyline (4765), North Shore (4416), Plano West (4190), Alief Hastings (4156) and Alief Elsik (4084).

Allen, Plano, Plano East and Plano West are all in District 8-5A (currently), Hastings and Elsik are in 18-5A.

[AggiesAreWe]

[quote name="WOSgrad" post="821016" timestamp="1280249133"]
There are only eight of them:  Plano East (6171), Plano (5270), Allen (5029), Dallas Skyline (4765), North Shore (4416), Plano West (4190), Alief Hastings (4156) and Alief Elsik (4084).

Allen, Plano, Plano East and Plano West are all in District 8-5A (currently), Hastings and Elsik are in 18-5A.
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I was close. I knew that the Plano schools were 2 of them and the Alief schools were the other two.

[NorthoftheBorder]

I thought the Woodlands was also over 4k enrollment.

[WOSgrad]

[quote name="NorthoftheBorder" post="821042" timestamp="1280253059"]
I thought the Woodlands was also over 4k enrollment.
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No, not far way from the 4K figure, though.  They turned in 3782.

[liltex]

What I'm interested in seeing is the Houston area 4A teams that enrollment numbers have declined alot asked NOT to be moved down a classification and have remained in class 4A.My Question is;Do you get an option from the UIL if you don't want new changes?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Is it me or is the metroplex growing and metro Houston declining??

[liltex]

Houston Metro is decining.No new schools but just outside the ring new schools are popping up like Kingwood Park,Atascocita,Summerwood,Manvel,Pearland Dawson,Porter and others.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Guess the inner city schools in Houston will mostly be 3a and 4a

[Matthew328]

Here is 4A

http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106903

[WOSgrad]

[quote name="Matthew328" post="821595" timestamp="1280362151"]
Here is 4A

http://theoldcoach.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106903
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Interesting.  Matt, why would you send BH to 20-4A in this mockup and have Silsbee in 19-4A.  I could see Jasper as the would have Livingston to pair up with.  But it seems like BH and Silsbee would be switched.

BTW, Matt. You are doing a heck of a job on this mock realignment. I had toyed with the idea of doing one, even got as far as putting the ada's in a spreadsheet.  Then I said, NO THANK YOU!!! Too much effort for me!