Tsrn Sports Hou.Area 4A Pre-Season Rankings

[liltex]

http://www.tsrnsports.com/football 2010 football-rankings-hou-30-4a.htm

[rschuldt]

Sorry, liltex, but I think that your link might be broken. Here is a new one though:

[url=http://www.tsrnsports.com/Football_2010/football-rankings-hou-30-4a.htm]http://www.tsrnsports.com/Football_2010/football-rankings-hou-30-4a.htm[/url]

[downgoesfrazier]

The top 5 is pretty solid.

Humble, PNG and Yates are too high.

Crosby and Central are too low.

El Campo is a tough team that could make some noise.
 
GCM is 3rd in 19 4A

Nederland at 17 is funny. 

Barbers Hill is noticeably absent

[rschuldt]

I certainly agree with where they put Dayton though.

[BMTSoulja1]

Galveston Ball in the top 10?  I guess only because they have just dropped to 4a they expect them to be good... It's weird especially since Central whipped them 41-21 last year...

[liltex]

I thought after hurr.Ike alot of Ball atheletes moved to La Marque?The 1 that puzzles me is Huntsville @#16 as they lost their qb to graduation + don't they have a new coach?And next we have Sharpstown and we know Yates has been the only hstn.area 4a team to go 2 rds lately but overall it's not too bad and I think Manvel led by Dexter Foreman should be on this poll.

[biaplayer]

well i guess if we based all we know on these rankings we wouldnt need to play right??? Im glad you think that PNG is ranked to high i wish were werent ranked at all that way after we defeat your team you will have realized that your team wansnt worth mentioning in  this thread now lol

[BrenhamFan]

Atleast this year I shouldnt be hearing that our district is weak all year...
3 out of the top 10 are from 17-4A.  (#1 Brenham, #6 Stratford and #7 Montgomery)

[gary-us-bonds]

Humble is probably too low in my opinion.

We're sitting here talking about Dayton being able to hang in there with Ike and how that would prove just how good they are going to be this year....but Humble beat Ike last year.  Same Ike team that beat West Brook.

It's been documented time and again.
When teams drop down a classification, they become more dangerous.

[NDN79]

Actually, I think that you could make a solid case for PN-G in the top ten. I think that Central could also be in the top ten. I don't know enough about some of the other schools to say about them.

[liltex]

Panamamyers sometimes it's the case;Here's 1 for ya Jasper and they were a great team for years so the last 8 years in 4A they go 61-36 the last 8 years to date 63-35 in 3A not much differant 8)

[gary-us-bonds]

That's just a touch misleading.

If a team is steadily losing enrollment over a period of time, then it makes more sense to use the years that are extremely close to the drop.

Let's say Humble 6 years ago really did have good 5A numbers, so that's not pertinent.
Six years from now, Humble might be low even for 4a numbers so that is not really pertinent any more.

The important numbers are to see what they did when they were barely hanging on to the large classification, then see how they did when they were at the very top of their lower classification and still had the residue of players having played the larger classifications left over roaming their halls.

Jasper in their last 3 years of 4A ball went 6-4, 3-8 and 12-2.
Jasper in their first 3 years of 3A ball went 12-2, 11-3 and 12-4

That's a jump from 21-14 to 35-9.  They went to the semi-finals twice and the finals once in their first three years in 3A.


Look at Longview.
Last year in 5A they went 12-2.  They outscored their opponents 403-224 and lost in the quarterfinals.
First year in 4A they went 14-2.  They outscored their opponents 613-325 and lost only to 5A Allen and juggernaut Lake Travis.
Second year 4a they went 14-2.  They beat the tar out of everyone except 5A Lufkin and powerhouse LT again.

In their 5A district, they won by 17, 8, 4, 8 and 25
In their 4A district, they won by 34, 19, 44, 29, 14 and 27.
In 2009 in district, they won by 3, 45, 44, 17, 45 and 49

They were good all three years, don't get me wrong.  They went from going undefeated in district with a 12 point victory margin to going undefeated with a 27 point victory margin to going undefeated with a 34 point victory margin.

Again, the only times they lost the last two years were to 5A teams and Lake Travis.

[liltex]

As stated panamamyers(sometimes)and you're prolly correct-Humble will do good and Lee will to eventually but still a + for the dist.losing a fairly new school in KWP and new coaching on a few teams the future of 19-4a as it stands @ present will hopefully make some noise.Constuction on the Grand Parkway along w/new bussiness 105 so.of Cleveland HS out towards 290 and widening hiway 146 should bring our area some improved growth down the road.

[BrenhamFan]

[quote name="panamamyers" post="820354" timestamp="1280075327"]
That's just a touch misleading.

If a team is steadily losing enrollment over a period of time, then it makes more sense to use the years that are extremely close to the drop.

Let's say Humble 6 years ago really did have good 5A numbers, so that's not pertinent.
Six years from now, Humble might be low even for 4a numbers so that is not really pertinent any more.

The important numbers are to see what they did when they were barely hanging on to the large classification, then see how they did when they were at the very top of their lower classification and still had the residue of players having played the larger classifications left over roaming their halls.

Jasper in their last 3 years of 4A ball went 6-4, 3-8 and 12-2.
Jasper in their first 3 years of 3A ball went 12-2, 11-3 and 12-4

That's a jump from 21-14 to 35-9.  They went to the semi-finals twice and the finals once in their first three years in 3A.


Look at Longview.
Last year in 5A they went 12-2.  They outscored their opponents 403-224 and lost in the quarterfinals.
First year in 4A they went 14-2.  They outscored their opponents 613-325 and lost only to 5A Allen and juggernaut Lake Travis.
Second year 4a they went 14-2.  They beat the tar out of everyone except 5A Lufkin and powerhouse LT again.

In their 5A district, they won by 17, 8, 4, 8 and 25
In their 4A district, they won by 34, 19, 44, 29, 14 and 27.
In 2009 in district, they won by 3, 45, 44, 17, 45 and 49

They were good all three years, don't get me wrong.  They went from going undefeated in district with a 12 point victory margin to going undefeated with a 27 point victory margin to going undefeated with a 34 point victory margin.

Again, the only times they lost the last two years were to 5A teams and Lake Travis.
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Longview was 4A last year, not 5A.

[D3zii]

Wow, G,ball and Willis (when was the last time they made the playoffs) are way to high, But hey this is why yu play
the games to prove ppl wrong..Hopefully they live up to their expectations, I cant wait to see ball this year

[OldSkool97]

[quote name="BrenhamFan" post="820520" timestamp="1280115849"]
[quote author=panamamyers link=topic=71190.msg820354#msg820354 date=1280075327]
That's just a touch misleading.

If a team is steadily losing enrollment over a period of time, then it makes more sense to use the years that are extremely close to the drop.

Let's say Humble 6 years ago really did have good 5A numbers, so that's not pertinent.
Six years from now, Humble might be low even for 4a numbers so that is not really pertinent any more.

The important numbers are to see what they did when they were barely hanging on to the large classification, then see how they did when they were at the very top of their lower classification and still had the residue of players having played the larger classifications left over roaming their halls.

Jasper in their last 3 years of 4A ball went 6-4, 3-8 and 12-2.
Jasper in their first 3 years of 3A ball went 12-2, 11-3 and 12-4

That's a jump from 21-14 to 35-9.  They went to the semi-finals twice and the finals once in their first three years in 3A.


Look at Longview.
Last year in 5A they went 12-2.  They outscored their opponents 403-224 and lost in the quarterfinals.
First year in 4A they went 14-2.  They outscored their opponents 613-325 and lost only to 5A Allen and juggernaut Lake Travis.
Second year 4a they went 14-2.  They beat the tar out of everyone except 5A Lufkin and powerhouse LT again.

In their 5A district, they won by 17, 8, 4, 8 and 25
In their 4A district, they won by 34, 19, 44, 29, 14 and 27.
In 2009 in district, they won by 3, 45, 44, 17, 45 and 49

They were good all three years, don't get me wrong.  They went from going undefeated in district with a 12 point victory margin to going undefeated with a 27 point victory margin to going undefeated with a 34 point victory margin.

Again, the only times they lost the last two years were to 5A teams and Lake Travis.
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Longview was 4A last year, not 5A.
[/quote]

Believe he meant last year of 5A

[PURPLE 4EVER]

The Angleton vs Dayton game should be a dan dan dandy!!!!

This morning when I woke up at my summer job (in the Pocono Mountains of PA) it was about 50 degrees!
Yesterday evening felt like a Friday October evening back home.
CAN'T WAIT FOR FOOTBALL SEASON!!!!!

[ATWILDCAT]

[quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=71190.msg820882#msg820882 date=1280228805]
The Angleton vs Dayton game should be a dan dan dandy!!!!

That Angleton/Dayton game should be entertaining, but tough for the Wildcats playing @ Dayton. But that Angleton/Friendswood game in week 0 will be great game to start off the season for both teams. Then the Cats turn around and play the 5A regional finalist Brazoswood Buccaneers, so it's going to be a tough opening 3 weeks. Oh and then after playing Dayton, we'll have Alief Elsik next. Man, what a schedule!

[BrenhamFan]

[quote name="ATWILDCAT" post="820912" timestamp="1280238404"]
[quote author=PURPLE 4EVER link=topic=71190.msg820882#msg820882 date=1280228805]
The Angleton vs Dayton game should be a dan dan dandy!!!!

That Angleton/Dayton game should be entertaining, but tough for the Wildcats playing @ Dayton. But that Angleton/Friendswood game in week 0 will be great game to start off the season for both teams. Then the Cats turn around and play the 5A regional finalist Brazoswood Buccaneers, so it's going to be a tough opening 3 weeks. Oh and then after playing Dayton, we'll have Alief Elsik next. Man, what a schedule!
[/quote]

I agree.  That is a guantlet.

[biaplayer]

man that is one brutal schedule to say the least

[rschuldt]

I think Dayton mainly did that to test our players to see what improvement needs to be done to be a top performance by the time playoffs comes around.

[bh89-2]

I think those rankings were drawn from a hat at random.  What a mess!

[Lightning/Eagle]

Willis is definetely way too high. Aren't they like 4-26 over the last 30 games. I know they were like 0-20 for two straight years.

[BrenhamFan]

[quote name="Lightning/Eagle" post="821864" timestamp="1280435435"]
Willis is definetely way too high. Aren't they like 4-26 over the last 30 games. I know they were like 0-20 for two straight years.
[/quote]

They have alot returning, and one of the best air attacks in the area.  They put up lots of points and lots of yards per game.  If their defense would half way step up, they would be a really good team.  However, they don't and they have to get in a shoot out to pull out a victory.  A talented secondary usually means, blowout against Willis.  If your team is weak back there, it could be a blowout the other way.

[HUM398]

[quote name="downgoesfrazier" post="820303" timestamp="1280037127"]
The top 5 is pretty solid.

Humble, PNG and Yates are too high.

Crosby and Central are too low.

El Campo is a tough team that could make some noise.
 
GCM is 3rd in 19 4A

Nederland at 17 is funny. 

Barbers Hill is noticeably absent
[/quote]

Where would you put Humble Downgoesfrazier?  So i am guessing you agree with just about every other poll that has come out, that has left us out.

Where are we going to finish in district in your eyes?

Well, im ready to have the boys hit the field....We are going to bring a ton of pain.  We are LOADED.