bh89-2 Posted July 28, 2010 Report Posted July 28, 2010 I watched Liberty Hill run it effectively with small everybody. Jasper folks can tell you about Liberty Hill. It keeps the defense guessing and by time they figure out where the ball is, it's often too late.
SgtRey Posted July 29, 2010 Report Posted July 29, 2010 You can run the triple option from any formation...and the Wing -T offense out of flex bone and wishbone...When Jr and company played for me we didn't have a problem scoring, we had a stellar passing game when neccessary out of flex-bone formations....it's all about the offensive coordinator... ;)
ozenfreshman Posted July 29, 2010 Report Posted July 29, 2010 yeah I couldn't imagine westbrook running the Wing-T
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted July 29, 2010 Report Posted July 29, 2010 [quote name="supermario" post="821777" timestamp="1280421925"]yeah I couldn't imagine westbrook running the Wing-T[/quote] :D
dme1111 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 I absolutely hate this offense. I would rather watch girls volleyball than vidor play offense. Terrible. Only effective with a big O-line and several good running backs...
biaplayer Posted July 30, 2010 Report Posted July 30, 2010 well to be honest with you im glad that vidor runs this offense, we kept them honest and i know they didnt put up 330yards rushing agaist my ndns. personally i think vidor needs to learn to throw the ball a lot more and maybe they start going to the playoffs, just a thought get a new offense!
biaplayer Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 ttt looks like i hurt somebodys feelings, man man man voice your opinion and someone gets mad lol
downgoesfrazier Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 Those type of offenses are good as long as they stay ahead of the chains and ahead on the scoreboard.
H-D BOBCAT 55 Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Posted July 31, 2010 Keeps the defense guessing where the ball is going. Can make a defense look silly !! I like this offense.
incognito Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 [quote name="biaplayer" post="822154" timestamp="1280529059"]well to be honest with you im glad that vidor runs this horrible offense, we kept them honest and i know they didnt put up 330yards rushing agaist my ndns. personally i think vidor needs to learn to throw the ball a lot more and maybe they start going to the playoffs, just a thought get a new coach![/quote]You're mistaken in the type of offense that Vidor runs. The Pirates run a Slot-T offense, not a Wing-T; there is a difference. Your post is a good illustration of the old adage, "It is better to let people think you're uninformed than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." And as for your tacky "just a thought" comment about getting a new coach, let me leave you with one thought...although I'm not so sure you have a place to put it, nevertheless here it is...Coach Mathews is an inspiration on and off the field. He is loved by his team, and respected in his community; and despite the criticisms from small-minded people like yourself, he remains a class act.
Guest blackflag Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 [quote name="incognito" post="822215" timestamp="1280551891"][quote author=biaplayer link=topic=71233.msg822154#msg822154 date=1280529059]well to be honest with you im glad that vidor runs this horrible offense, we kept them honest and i know they didnt put up 330yards rushing agaist my ndns. personally i think vidor needs to learn to throw the ball a lot more and maybe they start going to the playoffs, just a thought get a new coach![/quote]You're mistaken in the type of offense that Vidor runs. The Pirates run a Slot-T offense, not a Wing-T; there is a difference. Your post is a good illustration of the old adage, "It is better to let people think you're uninformed than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." And as for your tacky "just a thought" comment about getting a new coach, let me leave you with one thought...although I'm not so sure you have a place to put it, nevertheless here it is...Coach Mathews is an inspiration on and off the field. He is loved by his team, and respected in his community; and despite the criticisms from small-minded people like yourself, he remains a class act.[/quote]Amen !
westend1 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 Some people just don't understand that a coach has to use the players he has, and sometimes, speed is not your best asset. The spread is great if you have the people to run it. If you are the slower team, why would you want to spread it out?
bojonomore Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 oh yeah. ;D I forgot they run the slot-t. But the difference in ideology is very similar, and both sort of limit passing opportunities...But obviously Vidor's personnel dictates them running that type of offense...just like LCM's DOES NOT.
mustang Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 The Wing-T is like any other offense. If you have the personnel to run it then its an awesome offense. If you don't then its not. It can be very successful at all classifications. To me, its one of the most interesting offenses.
dockofthebay Posted July 31, 2010 Report Posted July 31, 2010 Bear Cub, How can you forget they run the slot t when they put 87 points on you guys in the last two years with it? You might want to stop talking trash and start finding a way to stop it! ;D ;D ;D
biaplayer Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 yes you are right incognito, jeff mathews is a class act and i was out of line for saying what i said and for that i do apologize,. I understand that you and your fellow pirate fans back your pirates just as i do my ndns. I can honestly say that i was in favor of a coaching change here in Port Neches, we got one and i believe it was for the best, having watched a team which over the last 14 years with the exception of the dustin long era where we had a balanced attack, both throwing and running the ball basically was pounding the ball up the middle and running sweeps and traps. I just hate seeing a team be one dimensional, to me it is alot more exciting to watch a offense move the ball both passing and running not just run run pass punt. With that being said i hope the pirate faithful accept my sincere apologies, i was out of line and for that i am sorry. Looking forward to seeing Vidor on the gridiron this year good luck to the pirates.
incognito Posted August 1, 2010 Report Posted August 1, 2010 [quote name="biaplayer" post="822327" timestamp="1280626372"]yes you are right incognito, jeff mathews is a class act and i was out of line for saying what i said and for that i do apologize,. I understand that you and your fellow pirate fans back your pirates just as i do my ndns. I can honestly say that i was in favor of a coaching change here in Port Neches, we got one and i believe it was for the best, having watched a team which over the last 14 years with the exception of the dustin long era where we had a balanced attack, both throwing and running the ball basically was pounding the ball up the middle and running sweeps and traps. I just hate seeing a team be one dimensional, to me it is alot more exciting to watch a offense move the ball both passing and running not just run run pass punt. With that being said i hope the pirate faithful accept my sincere apologies, i was out of line and for that i am sorry. Looking forward to seeing Vidor on the gridiron this year good luck to the pirates.[/quote]biaplayer, your a gentleman and a scholar. Best of luck to your Indians.....except on Friday night October 29th :) :)
eagle65 Posted August 2, 2010 Report Posted August 2, 2010 the winged t was popular in the late 50's and 60's and was brought back into existance from tubby raymond when he was the coach at the u of delaware. belton, texas ran it for many years and was super sucessful with it.
Betrayed Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 By far the most difficult offense to stop. I've watched teams like Vidor, Clevland, and Livingston score touch down like they were wide open layups against teams. They dont know where the ball is. Those misdirection plays are lethal. Im sure everyone here has been fooled and didnt know who had the ball.
Betrayed Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 [quote name="HJfan2" post="821197" timestamp="1280269667"]i wish HJ ran this offense.[/quote]Blake, Turner, John and Gus would've had a field day in that offense. Spead will out wide so he can go 1on1.
Betrayed Posted August 3, 2010 Report Posted August 3, 2010 Wing-T offenses. under center and in shotgunhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ0A1sFnlXUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMdTL05GbgMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPI-aTAsaBU
H-D BOBCAT 55 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Report Posted August 4, 2010 [quote name="Betrayed" post="822712" timestamp="1280855940"]By far the most difficult offense to stop. I've watched teams like Vidor, Clevland, and Livingston score touch down like they were wide open layups against teams. They dont know where the ball is. Those misdirection plays are lethal. Im sure everyone here has been fooled and didnt know who had the ball. [/quote]Well said !! I agree !!
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